jardine said:

i'm mostly curious about when the genesis 9 core morph packages will be released.

it'd be nice if they were released at the same time victoria 9 premieres. 

i'm not particularly interested in picking up any next-generation characters until they're available.  though v9 does look interesting.

j

I dfon't have any info but I would certainly expect Starter Essentials, Victoria 9, and the morphs to appear together.

i'm mostly curious about when the genesis 9 core morph packages will be released.

it'd be nice if they were released at the same time victoria 9 premieres. 

i'm not particularly interested in picking up any next-generation characters until they're available.  though v9 does look interesting.

j

jbowler said:

barbult said:

The problem I had was not with OBJ Export, OBJ Import, or Morph Loader. It was with Update Base Geometry, which does not seem to remember its last settings. Even when I change it to Daz Studio, the next time it is Custom with that huge percentage.

I can't actually get "update base geometry" to work at all.  It claims that the vertext and facet counts are not the same even though I created the .obj by exporting Victoria 8.1 as wavefront then importing the resultant file then exporting again from the new figure/object and finally using that .obj in update base gemetry!  Update Base Geometry isn't saving the scale settings, but that might be because it is failing.

Are you sure it was just the base? It's very easy to get add-ons, such as the lashes, or to forget to set the resolutuion to Base.

barbult said:

The problem I had was not with OBJ Export, OBJ Import, or Morph Loader. It was with Update Base Geometry, which does not seem to remember its last settings. Even when I change it to Daz Studio, the next time it is Custom with that huge percentage.

I can't actually get "update base geometry" to work at all.  It claims that the vertext and facet counts are not the same even though I created the .obj by exporting Victoria 8.1 as wavefront then importing the resultant file then exporting again from the new figure/object and finally using that .obj in update base gemetry!  Update Base Geometry isn't saving the scale settings, but that might be because it is failing.

Moved to the Commons as it is not Daz Studio, closed as there is already a thead https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591351/genesis-9-coming-soon-preorder-victoria-9-hd-today#latest

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591351/genesis-9-coming-soon-preorder-victoria-9-hd-today#latest

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591351/genesis-9-coming-soon-preorder-victoria-9-hd-today#latest

I'm considering asking for a refund on the advance Victoria 9. Whilst Genesis 9 looks great I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a powerful enough system/ram/graphics card capable of using it to its best. If I have to reduce textures and subdiv levels to get it to fit on a lower spec system then much of the improvements are lost, so what's the point? Realistically I need to be able to render at least a couple of figures, plus hair, plus clothes and I get the feeling doing that with G9 is going to take a huge amount of resources.  I 'might' be able to render a headshot of a bald Victoria 9, but that doesn't really get me anywhere.

If I was rich enough to buy a top line system that it seems Victoria 9 needs, then I would probably be looking a different software too.

Edited to add:-

I had forgotten I will also need an environment, and all these things the figures, the clothes, the hairs, the environment, need to have a similar level of detail. There's no better way of making a model look bad that placing it next to a model with much higher detail. I could use depth of field to blur out a comparatiely low detail environment, but I don't like to be restricted into alway having to do that. 

nemesis10 said:

There was a place keeper for Victoria 9 morphs that was at that price point for the developers; I don't they actually pay that price but it keeps people out until it is ready.

Yes, Daz had done that in the past when they needed to set something technically live in the store for whatever reason but didn't want people to actually buy it.

alienarea said:

First I rendered Victoria 6 (upgraded to Genesis 8 using the RSSY converter), Victoria 7 for Victoria 8 and Victoria 8.1 all next to each other with Victoria 8 skin and Linda hair. The Victoria's are quite different.

Then I did the same with the Gia's. As there isn't a Gia 8.1, I added Jacqueline 8.1 for comparison. With the same skin as Gia 7 for Gia 8, it is amazing how similar they are.

Using The Bard* for an answer to this:

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet

* used this nickname, as I belong to the faction that thinks that Shakespeare was not the real writer of all those works that are implied to have been produced by him.

There was a place keeper for Victoria 9 morphs that was at that price point for the developers; I don't they actually pay that price but it keeps people out until it is ready.

First I rendered Victoria 6 (upgraded to Genesis 8 using the RSSY converter), Victoria 7 for Victoria 8 and Victoria 8.1 all next to each other with Victoria 8 skin and Linda hair. The Victoria's are quite different.

Then I did the same with the Gia's. As there isn't a Gia 8.1, I added Jacqueline 8.1 for comparison. With the same skin as Gia 7 for Gia 8, it is amazing how similar they are.

beregar said:

vrba79 said:

My thoughts:

I've never understood the concept of pre-ordering a digital good...because It's digital. There's no "Oh no! We ran out on the first day, and have to wait for a new shipment!"

I've never understood the concept of pre-ordering a physical item since what's the point? I mean what do you get out of it that others don't since the physical pre-orders don't usually include any extras. Usually with digital pre-oders you get extra exclusive stuff that (usually) won't be available later for others.

When I was a kid, I would always preordered the new Super Nintendo games that were going to be super popular before they came out otherwise it'd take weeks until the stores had them in stock again. Didn't want to be the one kid that didn't have the new Mortal Kombat game and get annihilated when you go over to a friends house for a sleepover who'd been playing it non-stop since it came out lol. Do I preorder things now? No because by the time I have enough free time to delve into something, the stores have it all in stock anytime I walk in. But I also see zero reason to preorder a digital item since there won't be a shortage on the first day. Sure, if the freebies were something I was interested in, cool, but I don't really care for what they're offering for free with the Victoria 9 bundle, so I'll wait and see what's all in the bundle as well as finding out more information that hasn't been released yet that we're all wondering about in regards to G9. 

Strobe_Light said:

Anybody know of any figures of a younger paris hilton for g3 or g8?

As magikhs already mention, V3D Bianca is an older Paris Hilton 3D look-alike, but would work well with some of the Growing Up for Genesis 8 Female(s) age morphs.

V3D Bianca - G8F by Vicey3D
https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/v3d-bianca---g8f/152331

There is a younger Paris Hilton look-alike at Rendo, but it's for Victoria 4.2

PARTY-GOER for V4.2 by odnajdy
https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=93122

Here are a few other G8F and G3F Daz store figures that might help get you close on the features (such as her distinctive nose)...

Paris HD for Genesis 8 Female
https://www.daz3d.com/paris-hd-for-genesis-8-female

LY Lisbet HD (G3F)
https://www.daz3d.com/ly-lisbet-hd

Michi HD for Victoria 7 (G3F)
https://www.daz3d.com/michi-hd-for-victoria-7

I have great respect on the marketing strategies of Daz studio as it does not seem that they break everything on upgrades like the new poser owner did Daz keeps the offer of support for Poser, what would poser be without V4, well not even think about that! Daz made a huge contribution for Poser's popularity. I do not use Daz Studio even that I wish I could, but never figured out how to convert my WM SBSSW models in order to work in Daz Studio.But I am patient and with full hope that one day there will be a compatibility feature. Daz is free a great value, Poser should take a example but instead it updates and breaks most of older stuff, worst of all the Call home every week else puff all lost and your investments go right with it. If member (Customer) mention he's thoughts in the Renderosity forums or makes a public complaint they will remove it rightaway ( Censure ) with a probable Ban, and not only a forum ban but also removal of the account with all purchases no matter how much the customer Invested over the years ( Justifying there act with " we have the right to ban a member if we do not like him " ). This whole strategy does not really seem having a good future either it is a serious way of business. 

I Personally think it is the best solution sticking on the Older poser versions you have to ensure that your purchases still work the way they were suposed to work and wait up for a upgrade to poser 12, a 3D programm that is not working corectly with offered products can take the fun of using it. La Femme Flag ship well might have some potential but no good support, No Creators with potential, A airplane could fly between her leg position! So that flagship has no chance to beat Victoria 4, Poser without V4 and M4 is not Poser ! I like to use allot of different 3D programms " as Long as they work right " I try once in a while DS to figure out the issue for conversion. "Hope dies last"  The Models for DS are sure admirable!  V4 is old but still the best option in Poser but a Poser 12 that is also breaking most of her huge content sure is a no go.  

Seven193 said:

captainalvord said:

What exactly comes in the Bundle?  Be nice to know if its worth the $$$ before pre-ordering.  

That seems to be the biggest question, as every Daz Store product has a What's Included and Features section, except this one.
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-presale

Yes, clearly it is being kept as a surprise. If you do not feel happy at that, or if you feel the odds are against there being enough items you want to justify the purchase, then obviosuly this offer is not for you and you would be better off waiting until the products are released, when you will be able to make a more informed decision.

captainalvord said:

What exactly comes in the Bundle?  Be nice to know if its worth the $$$ before pre-ordering.  

That seems to be the biggest question, as every Daz Store product has a What's Included and Features section, except this one.
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-presale

I couldn't disagree more.

The vertice count for Daz figures has barely changed since Victoria 4, 16 years ago!  You're using a computer with more power than those of us that started this hobby years ago.  You can get an entry-level card, the RTX 3060 which has a whopping 12 GB of VRAM that was only available to high end computing users spending over a thousand dollars just a few short years ago!
 

Look where the industry is going.  Is Daz supposed to stay frozen in time nearly two decades ago?  

https://youtu.be/d1ZnM7CH-v4
I can hear the kids laughing at my renders now - "nice render, did you make that on your Grandpa's computer?"

This is a long shot, and I opened up a ticket as well, but I am trying to compile a list of all the Genesis 8 and 8.1 base figures, and pairing them with their counterparts.  For example Victoria 8's counter part is Michael 8, Honni 8's counterpart is Holt 8, and I know Kala 8's counterpart is Sanjay 8, but what about the rest? I know some won't have this, but if I can get a good chunk, that would be great.
The reason I am looking for this is because I have a male character created, and would like to create a female relative (sister) using a similar base character for the foundation. Then to expand, create parents and grandparents (obviously using dials and other morphs)

Or am I asking too much

hello.

i used this hair converter:

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-hair-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female

to convert this hair:

https://www.daz3d.com/melia-hair

...which did work, as far as i can tell (it created files in the correct folder) but when i closed the script window and returned to the scene with the G8F loaded, almost all of the figure's options for pose, wardrobe etc. were missing, as if it were now a prop or similar.

checking its scene ID, its compatibility base was set to 'None' so i restored that to '/Genesis 8/Female' but it still appears as incompatible, or a prop

if i turn off 'filter by content' then everything shows up, as expected (EVERYTHING shows up)

i compared its settings to G8M and everything looks correct.

how do i restore G8F to normal?

-----> uninstall-reinstall G8F starter essentials did NOT fix it. neither did deleting the hair i'd converted.

-----> neither did import metadata via DIM.