DanaTA said:

Xellosz said:

DanaTA said:

Xellosz said:

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

Is today the end of the DAZ+ sale?

Dana

No, at least not for today. The catchup runs for 2 days. Also it doesn't say it is the final days. So, I'm expecting the DAZ+ sale to run for a bit longer. 

We will probably get Victoria 9 on Wednesday, but that's just a tip. We usually did get a new char on Wednesday or was it Thursday? (With the dollar exchange rate, I don't really buy from the US atm/ pay attention to things. This war [messed]up the economy in Eastern EU and it will take a year or so for the exchange rates to get back to the track of normality.)

Only people from DAZ would be able to tell what will happen, but it would be preeeeety unusual to end the sale so quickly. (8th of Nov probably is my guess. That's 2 times 2 week period and a catch-up week in the end.)

 

What I don't get in case of catch-up sales is if I don't buy it for $1.99 why would I buy it for $2.99? Anyone would explain this?

Well, I asked because many of the DAZ policies seem to be changing lately.  And today's sale does say it's a Catch-Up sale.  That's what worried me.  The PA sale was shorter than historically, too!

Dana 

We have catch-up sales not the last days of the sale. So till it's just a catch-up I wouldn't worry about ending. But who knows?

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Well, hate to say I told you so, but I did.  Today's email from DAZ says it's the last chance today!

I was going to say it probably refers to today being the last chance to catch the mid-month catch-up sale, but the email does indeed say "Don't miss the final day of the Daz+ Anniversary Sale!"

Xellosz said:

DanaTA said:

Xellosz said:

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

Is today the end of the DAZ+ sale?

Dana

No, at least not for today. The catchup runs for 2 days. Also it doesn't say it is the final days. So, I'm expecting the DAZ+ sale to run for a bit longer. 

We will probably get Victoria 9 on Wednesday, but that's just a tip. We usually did get a new char on Wednesday or was it Thursday? (With the dollar exchange rate, I don't really buy from the US atm/ pay attention to things. This war [messed]up the economy in Eastern EU and it will take a year or so for the exchange rates to get back to the track of normality.)

Only people from DAZ would be able to tell what will happen, but it would be preeeeety unusual to end the sale so quickly. (8th of Nov probably is my guess. That's 2 times 2 week period and a catch-up week in the end.)

 

What I don't get in case of catch-up sales is if I don't buy it for $1.99 why would I buy it for $2.99? Anyone would explain this?

Well, I asked because many of the DAZ policies seem to be changing lately.  And today's sale does say it's a Catch-Up sale.  That's what worried me.  The PA sale was shorter than historically, too!

Dana 

We have catch-up sales not the last days of the sale. So till it's just a catch-up I wouldn't worry about ending. But who knows?

Mod edit: a duplicate post was removed.

Well, hate to say I told you so, but I did.  Today's email from DAZ says it's the last chance today!

Dana 

Masterstroke said:

Spooderman760 said:

Masterstroke said:

XpiderMan said:

I really, really hope it is compatible with older figures. Having to pay $10 - $15 more for a base figure and then having to buy clothes, poses, hair and accessories from the ground up, would be a real downer for me. Plus I'm not even sure if my computer will be able to handle rendering a G9 figure.  I guess we'll have to wait and see in the next few days.

You are not paying for base product.

G9 is free, you are paying for a character morph and material.

backward compatible means, that nothing has really changed. G9 is new. Your G8 stuff will be untouched and you can keep using it. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade.

Just test G9 and decide for yourself.

I never understand this arguement. It completely misses the point. Like ofcourse we know g8 will still exist. Thats not the point. The point is that we want our 100s if not 1000s of dollars worth of purchases to work with updated figures and their latest technologies like facial expressions for example. Yeah i could use g8, but that means downgrading to a more outdated figure with objectively worse facial expressions just so we can use our favourite skin textures.

Then we have something in common. I've never understood your point either. 
I understand the need for converters from an older to a newer figure.
It is in the nature of things, that everything you've invested in older things is pretty much burned money, when you get something new.
When you buy a new car, do you think of all the money for tax, gas, insurence or repair, that you've invested in your old car?
After 5 years it is really not to soon to have a new figure.
With every release of a figure since Victoria 3, there is that run of the mill complaint of the money, that have been invested in the old figure.
If 3d figures are your nr. 1 hobby, I have to tell you, that it is an expensive hobby.
I myself invested 10,000s of $ in old Poser stuff, that I don't use anymore, for it looks like to low quality for nowadays standarts.

Well thats the difference. G8 assets arent even outdated. Its the figure (particularly facial expressions) that is outdated. Plus you cant really compare digital products to cars. Digital products are much more flexible and daz can do something about it. All they did was change the topology in the nipple area to make it more unified which somehow seemed to warrant an entirely new uv set. They didnt need to completely alter the entire topology as the topology was already pretty solid if not amongst the best and can only be improved to a certain point. Even if they did want to improve the topology, they could change the topology while keeping each uv island shape intact because the seams/places where 2 uv islands intersect can be kept constant because those arent at crucial bending points (below armpit joints, below groin joints, and below neck joints). They could keep these areas as well as seams consistent or partially consistent while still having the freedom of altering topology in the crucial areas. Simply changing something for the sake of being different and thus voiding years of progress is NOT progress and it could have been avoided is what frustrates me. Or at the very least give us a simple way to convert our textures (which cant be done with map transfer with different topologies (think V4 to genesis)) because creating realistic textures or finding the perfect set of textures is NOT an easy task.

DanaTA said:

Xellosz said:

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

Is today the end of the DAZ+ sale?

Dana

No, at least not for today. The catchup runs for 2 days. Also it doesn't say it is the final days. So, I'm expecting the DAZ+ sale to run for a bit longer. 

We will probably get Victoria 9 on Wednesday, but that's just a tip. We usually did get a new char on Wednesday or was it Thursday? (With the dollar exchange rate, I don't really buy from the US atm/ pay attention to things. This war [messed]up the economy in Eastern EU and it will take a year or so for the exchange rates to get back to the track of normality.)

Only people from DAZ would be able to tell what will happen, but it would be preeeeety unusual to end the sale so quickly. (8th of Nov probably is my guess. That's 2 times 2 week period and a catch-up week in the end.)

 

What I don't get in case of catch-up sales is if I don't buy it for $1.99 why would I buy it for $2.99? Anyone would explain this?

Well, I asked because many of the DAZ policies seem to be changing lately.  And today's sale does say it's a Catch-Up sale.  That's what worried me.  The PA sale was shorter than historically, too!

Dana 

We have catch-up sales not the last days of the sale. So till it's just a catch-up I wouldn't worry about ending. But who knows?

Mod edit: a duplicate post was removed.

Spooderman760 said:

Masterstroke said:

XpiderMan said:

I really, really hope it is compatible with older figures. Having to pay $10 - $15 more for a base figure and then having to buy clothes, poses, hair and accessories from the ground up, would be a real downer for me. Plus I'm not even sure if my computer will be able to handle rendering a G9 figure.  I guess we'll have to wait and see in the next few days.

You are not paying for base product.

G9 is free, you are paying for a character morph and material.

backward compatible means, that nothing has really changed. G9 is new. Your G8 stuff will be untouched and you can keep using it. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade.

Just test G9 and decide for yourself.

I never understand this arguement. It completely misses the point. Like ofcourse we know g8 will still exist. Thats not the point. The point is that we want our 100s if not 1000s of dollars worth of purchases to work with updated figures and their latest technologies like facial expressions for example. Yeah i could use g8, but that means downgrading to a more outdated figure with objectively worse facial expressions just so we can use our favourite skin textures.

Then we have something in common. I've never understood your point either. 
I understand the need for converters from an older to a newer figure.
It is in the nature of things, that everything you've invested in older things is pretty much burned money, when you get something new.
When you buy a new car, do you think of all the money for tax, gas, insurence or repair, that you've invested in your old car?
After 5 years it is really not to soon to have a new figure.
With every release of a figure since Victoria 3, there is that run of the mill complaint of the money, that have been invested in the old figure.
If 3d figures are your nr. 1 hobby, I have to tell you, that it is an expensive hobby.
I myself invested 10,000s of $ in old Poser stuff, that I don't use anymore, for it looks like to low quality for nowadays standarts.

Closing this as the topic has been discussed in the main Genesis/Victoria 9 thread - but if they had meant half-way through October the 16th (which would be the literal middle of the month) they would have said so - mid-month is a block of time, personally I would dividie the month into early, middle, and late with each being about ten days long.

Xellosz said:

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

Is today the end of the DAZ+ sale?

Dana

No, at least not for today. The catchup runs for 2 days. Also it doesn't say it is the final days. So, I'm expecting the DAZ+ sale to run for a bit longer. 

We will probably get Victoria 9 on Wednesday, but that's just a tip. We usually did get a new char on Wednesday or was it Thursday? (With the dollar exchange rate, I don't really buy from the US atm/ pay attention to things. This war [messed]up the economy in Eastern EU and it will take a year or so for the exchange rates to get back to the track of normality.)

Only people from DAZ would be able to tell what will happen, but it would be preeeeety unusual to end the sale so quickly. (8th of Nov probably is my guess. That's 2 times 2 week period and a catch-up week in the end.)

 

What I don't get in case of catch-up sales is if I don't buy it for $1.99 why would I buy it for $2.99? Anyone would explain this?

Well, I asked because many of the DAZ policies seem to be changing lately.  And today's sale does say it's a Catch-Up sale.  That's what worried me.  The PA sale was shorter than historically, too!

Dana 

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

Is today the end of the DAZ+ sale?

Dana

No, at least not for today. The catchup runs for 2 days. Also it doesn't say it is the final days. So, I'm expecting the DAZ+ sale to run for a bit longer. 

We will probably get Victoria 9 on Wednesday, but that's just a tip. We usually did get a new char on Wednesday or was it Thursday? (With the dollar exchange rate, I don't really buy from the US atm/ pay attention to things. This war [messed] up the economy in Eastern EU and it will take a year or so for the exchange rates to get back to the track of normality.)

Only people from DAZ would be able to tell what will happen, but it would be preeeeety unusual to end the sale so quickly. (8th of Nov probably is my guess. That's 2 times 2 week period and a catch-up week in the end.)

 

What I don't get in case of catch-up sales is if I don't buy it for $1.99 why would I buy it for $2.99? Anyone would explain this?

Richard Haseltine said:

It did lose its intro discount for a bit, but then it was restored. We all flag it up again, in case this was not intended.

 The Victoria 9 Pre order bundle and character items have returned to their introductory price. Thanks, Richard and DAZ.

The Victoria 9 Pre order bundle and character items have returned to their introductory price. Thanks, Richard and DAZ.

 

There is a Victoria 9 thread stickied at the top of this forum https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591351/genesis-9-coming-soon-preorder-victoria-9-hd-today#latest

No. If you check your Product Library, you could search on Genesis 9 Starter Essentials and not find it. I just typed in '9' and only my preorder for the Victoria 9 Pre Order Bundle showed up, along with all other products with a '9' in the name.

I may be mistaken, but I thought I heard someone say that it would be available from 'mid to late October'. Giving DAZ some wiggle room on the release date. Although for the product's luck, I hope it is not on 31 Oct.

"Preorder the Victoria 9 HD Bundle and be among the first to experience the next generation of Daz Studio figure technology. As a bonus, you’ll receive the Summer Bikini and Voss Hair for Genesis 9 FREE with your preorder. Your content will be automatically added to your account at launch in mid-October." If you get the hair and bikini are free in the $79 bundle and you get the Voss hair free in the $29 bundle what exactly are you getting for the $49 difference in price? I am not seeing where this is explained anywhere, so some clarification would be helpfull if you expect people to shell out an extra $49 for what is supposed to be a 'free' bikini. 

Not only male & female, but different females of the same generation (Victoria 8  vs The Girl 8) this is because different characters might hve difference in the size of their body parts that will make the required angles different. Sometimes it won't matter with solo poses, but you'll really notice it with multiple interacting poses.

Richard Haseltine said:

barbult said:

Charlie Judge said:

barbult said:

DustRider said:

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the ultast time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.

 

I think the presale simply went outside of the extra discount for the first two weeks, like any other product.

Maybe, but I'm doubtful because it was first available on 21 Sept and didn't increase until today. At any rate I'm definitely not buying at the higher price. 

That detail kind of debunks my theory.

It did lose its intro discount for a bit, but then it was restored. We all flag it up again, in case this was not intended.

Thanks, Richard 

barbult said:

Charlie Judge said:

barbult said:

DustRider said:

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the ultast time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.

 

I think the presale simply went outside of the extra discount for the first two weeks, like any other product.

Maybe, but I'm doubtful because it was first available on 21 Sept and didn't increase until today. At any rate I'm definitely not buying at the higher price. 

That detail kind of debunks my theory.

It did lose its intro discount for a bit, but then it was restored. We all flag it up again, in case this was not intended.

Charlie Judge said:

barbult said:

DustRider said:

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the ultast time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.

 

I think the presale simply went outside of the extra discount for the first two weeks, like any other product.

Maybe, but I'm doubtful because it was first available on 21 Sept and didn't increase until today. At any rate I'm definitely not buying at the higher price. 

That detail kind of debunks my theory.

barbult said:

DustRider said:

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the ultast time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.

 

I think the presale simply went outside of the extra discount for the first two weeks, like any other product.

Maybe, but I'm doubtful because it was first available on 21 Sept and didn't increase until today. At any rate I'm definitely not buying at the higher price. 

DustRider said:

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the last time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.

 

I think the presale simply went outside of the extra discount for the first two weeks, like any other product.

Charlie Judge said:

The preorder price of Victoria 9 just increased to $42 for the character and $112 for the bundle. Is this intentional? If so, I guess I won't be getting V9 any time soon.

Interesting that the price has gone up, yet there was never any mention in any of the marketing materials that you needed to pre order within a given time to receive a special pre-order pricing (or at least not that I could find). In fact, there was no indication that the pre-order price was a special pre-order only price, just that if you pre-ordered you would get the extra free item(s).

I thought this might be a simple automatic pricing error like the last time the price went up, but as we approach over 24 hours since I first saw the increase without ant response from DAZ or the mods, I think this may now be the "real" price. I'm definitely not purchasing eithr V9 or the bundle at this price. I can wait for a sale, or if there is not a better sale, just never get V9. I was going to at the very least purchase V9, and possibly the bundle if it had stuff I actually wanted. But...not at this new price.