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G9 - no lips, sclera, iris etc. surfaces anymore ?
cgidesign said:
G9.
Am I blind or is there only one face surface - no individual lips anymore?
And the same for the eyes? No sclera, iris etc.?
This was one of my first major annoyances when I started playing around with Genesis 9/Victoria 9. I never use the L.I.E editor and if I do have to tweak something that way, I usually just pull the image into photoshop so I can do it faster and save the file somewhere rather then it being "temporarily" stored.
I had my own thread on this, but the question of how to do something simple like make the lips glossy was never answered. (though it was moved to a weird place in the forums)
Anyone have a tutorial on the workflow for Gen 9 and customizing individual parts of the surfaces now that they consolidated surfaces?Genesis 9 Character EssentialsThe only thing included with Victoria 9 are the textures for the anatomical elements. The actual elements are in the characters essentials pack.
Genesis 9 Character EssentialsGordig said:
It's worth noting that the Character Essentials also includes the anatomical elements, instead of requiring you to buy a pro bundle to get them.
I'm wondering if the "anatomical elements" are the same in the Genesis 9 Essentials product and the Victoria 9 product? If not, is one better than the other?
Genesis 9 Coming Soon! Preorder Victoria 9 HD TodayI'm a bit perplexed by how this product was handled.
First, I would have thought it would be 'ready to go' and an automatic delivery based on how other products are purchased and received. Why were files missing from the original distribution of Victoria 9 HD? Was the package not tested prior to release to ensure it was 'intact'? Why are free items missing and still not delivered? This has a 'rushed to market' feel even though the character was announced many weeks ago.
Why not just recreate one full package for the Victoria Presale options and add them to the accounts that paid for it? It's not a physical item - it's a digital product. Fix the packages to be as they should have been and upload them based on purchase history to the appropriate accounts. I'm not sure I understand why this isn't an automatic follow-through.
If the PAs were given a functional character with morphs and all, why aren't the morphs readily available now? Why launch Victoria 9 / Genesis 9 without the regular body morphs?
It feels like that PAs were given a fully functional character to play with whereas the general customer base is getting the character in drips and pieces via extra purchases. Seems odd given how prior characters have been handled.
There are some nice features and some rather interesting changes (especially with the eyes and lips). I would like to be able to add in lipstick from Gen 8 figures but that's not possible anymore. It's a whole new approach. In any case, I feel like I'm in a holding pattern, waiting for more to come to really expand on what Genesis 9 can be. And some of the Gen 8 clothing has not conformed well even with tweaking. (Poke through has occurred.)
Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment IssuesThe one outfit that I will and have used from the bundle was Lyoness's Mango Movement Collection for G9. These turned out to be serious exercise clothes and not ala Jane Fonda either. She packed in sliders to adjust so many things I couldn't imagine, a jacket that actually can be worn over the other tops and pants for cold weather running/walking, shorts, shirts of all types of sleeves and necks. While there are only three color options, they work together and you can still use shaders. And the socks, knee or ankle, could be used for other outfits that don't offer them, and the tennis shoes, nice.
And like my past few days have gone, just as I was about to render a final version, I clicked one time too many without a save and crashed DAZ. My computer is a whinny little brat. It wasn't the character, dog, or clothes, but the render engine switching too many times.
And OOT, love the hair, but can't figure out what is with A and B on the hair.
Never download the fetish joke. I would have preferred something more versatile. So I also went with 10-in-1 Casual Wardrobe which I have bought the ones for previous generations and got my money worth.
I really wish we had a more standard pack of poses for both sexes that aren't models or strippers or whatever is in the G9 Starter Essentials, but there is few that a man could use. We need the conversion packs fast.
Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment IssuesGnotMe said:
Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?
Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.
G9 - no lips, sclera, iris etc. surfaces anymore ?cgidesign said:
Diffuse and Translu textures are now in temp ?
Means they get generated and we can't save custom ones?

And Victoria uses fake reflection maps?

Sure you can, save the ones in temp
Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment IssuesPixelSploiting said:
Without having ability to customise & tweak minutiae with head/body morphs I'm already being bored with Victoria 9...
I agree....I'm gettiing there. All I really find myself doing is trying on older generations' clothing to see if it fits.

I guess I'll go and read up on the Transfer utility so I can get some of this AprilYSH hair and others with bones over to G9.
Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment IssuesWithout having ability to customise & tweak minutiae with head/body morphs I'm already being bored with Victoria 9...
Genesis 9 Character Essentialsnightwolf1982 said:
Anatomical elements textures come with Victoria 9, there are none for the base Genesis 9 figure, as Richard said. Interestingly though, there are Normal Maps for the anatomical elements incleded with G9.
Thanks. I was confused by what Richard said as whether they were included with Victoria 9 herself or just with the Intro Bundle,.
Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment IssuesWhere are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?
Genesis 9 Character EssentialsAnatomical elements textures come with Victoria 9, there are none for the base Genesis 9 figure, as Richard said. Interestingly though, there are Normal Maps for the anatomical elements included with G9.
Genesis 9 Character EssentialsRichard Haseltine said:
Richard Haseltine said:
Strictly when I asked about textures to match the base figure I was told they were there and replied to say they weren't (or at least, no one was finding them). I don't know if that registered in all the other issues so I may need to follow up to be sure daz is actually aware of the issue, once the main product availability is resolved. But yes, I was clearly told that there should be maps for the Anatomical Elements to match the base skins.
I am very sorry but I have now learned that there was a "not" missing from the reply I received. There are not, currently at least, anatomical element maps to match the base textures. Until we get some add-on characters the only way to use the anatomical elements is on Victoria 9. I can only offer my apologies for having got your hopes up incorrectly.
OK, now I am really confused. If they are not in the Caharacter Essentials, where exactly are the textures for the anatomical elements? Do they come with Victoria 9 HD by herself or do I have to buy a bundle with a lot of items I don't want?
Genesis 9 Character Essentials
This is disappointing to hear, but I appreciate you following up on it and getting us a clear answer.Richard Haseltine said:Richard Haseltine said:
Strictly when I asked about textures to match the base figure I was told they were there and replied to say they weren't (or at least, no one was finding them). I don't know if that registered in all the other issues so I may need to follow up to be sure daz is actually aware of the issue, once the main product availability is resolved. But yes, I was clearly told that there should be maps for the Anatomical Elements to match the base skins.
I am very sorry but I have now learned that there was a "not" missing from the reply I received. There are not, currently at least, anatomical element maps to match the base textures. Until we get some add-on characters the only way to use the anatomical elements is on Victoria 9. I can only offer my apologies for having got your hopes up incorrectly.
Genesis 9 Character Essentialsmemcneil70 said:
Is it possible that Daz will release Michael 9 soon? Michael 8.1 was released nine days after Victoria 8.1, so maybe they will follow that pattern with this generation?
Well, Mada hinted that the PA's have already got Michael 9, so maybe? Here's hoping he doesn't look like Michael 8.1 or Michael 8...lol.
Victoria 9 Hd MakeupYes, as it happens
G9 - no lips, sclera, iris etc. surfaces anymore ?MallenLane said:
The detail maps on G9 are not tiled maps. They are a custom made set of 8k skin normal maps for the entire figure.
@MallenLane Do you mean V9 rather than G9? That is, do the included retread G8 textures (Victoria 8.1, Kala 8, Jada 8.1, & Clara 8.1) have 8k detail maps as well?
You do great work BTW. Thank you.
Genesis 9 Character EssentialsIs it possible that Daz will release Michael 9 soon? Michael 8.1 was released nine days after Victoria 8.1, so maybe they will follow that pattern with this generation?
Victoria 9 Hd MakeupI have problems with this product.
When I add the single textures it works good * takes ages to apply * but, when I want to use the apply all, it does look wrong.
The first Image is an example where I used V9 Makeup Apply All 02.
And the second one is how it should look like.
Loading time for all the Makeup options are quite long.
None of the Removal options work.
Has anyone else the same problem with this product?
When I clicked on the redo button to remove the Apply ALL option, it changed the skin of V9 to the Freckle one.

Genesis 9Richard Haseltine said:
druc said:
I haven't downloaded anything yet as my new PC has just (today) been shipped. But I did look in my DIM and didn't see the "free" items promised at the launch for pre orders. I am busy backing up (transferring) my files to a SSD so I don't want to down load anything yet. Does anyone know how we get these free items?
They stil need to be added, Daz is aware of this but running the update to add items puts a heavy load on the servers so it is being staged. That said, I thought the plan was to add them overnight so I have sent a query in. In any event, you shouldn't need to do anything to get them.
Good info because as of yet I have all the Genesis 9 stuff downloaded but the Victoria 9 HD figure and bundle has yet to show up in my DIM or DazCentral.











