After all my criticism on how the release was handled - Victoria 9 HD looks amazing.

Do you mean the Product Library in your account pages? There still seem to be some issues with delivery, Daz is working to investigate. Keep an eye on the main Genesis 9 thread rather than starting a new one https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591351/genesis-9-coming-soon-preorder-victoria-9-hd-today#latest

outrider42 said:

Catherine3678ab said:

This way gives V9 her own day of glory so to speak ;-)

I'm fairly sure that the morph bundles, etc. will follow over the next weeks, months, etc. as they usually do.

I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

That might be one way to look at it, but I have to disagree. Genesis 8 at least offered some compatible features with G3, you could drop most G3 skins right on 8. Poses would work, and only needed a small adjustment. With 9, however, few things work on G9. You can't drop your old skins on it. Poses do not work at all. So people are truly starting all over again, and we have to remember that we have not had to start over again since 2017.

I had to look, and Genesis 8 launched on October 12, 2017. So it has been exactly 5 years since Genesis 8 launched. And frankly, people got used to Genesis 8 being "the" Daz model. People who had stuck to Victoria 4 for ages finally moved on to Genesis 8. That is what Genesis 8 accomplished. Also keep in mind that Daz was doing some wild bundling in the Genesis 8 early days. Remember how buying a bundle they gifted like 2 or even 3 Pro bundles with it? This really pushed people to take the leap that might not otherwise. I was one of them.

I also don't feel the bundle is really offering anything. One single hair, one single pose pack, 3 very not everyday clothing items (unless you wear a bikini or fetish wear everyday day), expressions, and a make up pack. It is a pretty sparse bundle. When you look at past bundles I see more in the older bundles. Victoria 8 has 2 hairs, 2 pose packs, FIVE outfits covering more variety, expressions, and 2 extra characters. V8 also had makeup included with her base, not sold separately. Granted, I suppose the makeup product with V9 has more stuff, but still, it is sold separately and considered one of of the products included with the bundle.

That just doesn't drive value to me.

So now Genesis 9 is starting over in many ways, and I would bet some good money that a lot of people are going to wait. 

I like that Genesis 9 has 4 male and 4 female skins, that is pretty cool. So there's that. But I am talking about the Victoria 9 bundle itself. So after playing with these I am just sitting here thinking why would I even need Victoria 9 anyway? It is just not compelling to me. Victoria 9 is not ugly, but I am just not into her all that much. Maybe someday I'll get the character by itself.

felis said:

Gator said:

Richard Haseltine said:

GnotMe said:

Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

@Richard Haseltine

I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

Yes, the anatomical GeoCraft comes in "Genesis 9 Character Essentials". 

Yes, I meant that there is no promise of the models - it just says there are materials for them, if you have them from the Character Essentials.

It's been a while since I've been active in the forum. I had some losses in my family which were hard to deal with. It's just been a rough last couple of years. When I have been on the forums, I've mostly just lurked in the background. Sadly, that also meant there wasn't a It's Raining Men contest last year, and there won't be one this year either. I do really hope things get back to normal for me and perhaps, I can resurrect the contest in 2023 if there is still interest in having it. I apologize for just ghosting on that, but I just didn't have the mental capacity to deal with all the issues that always comes up with having the contest. Normally, I don't mind, but I just can't yet.

So Genesis 9 seems to be out. I'm not sure if I'm impressed with it yet or not. I did pick up Victoria 9, not the bundle though. I have to say I'm surprised Victoria 9 only came with one eye color. Even Genesis 9 comes with the the normal base colors like blue, green, brown, etc. Usually Victoria has those same basic options. But no, she only has one eye color. I so hope that isn't a trend for Daz characters in the future.

At any rate, I did have fun playing with the new figures. I'll withhold judgment about the new generation until more characters come out and we have access to all the morphs. At the moment,there isn't really all that much I can until even the basic morph sets come out. I really need to work on taking figures out of Daz Studio and morphing characters on my own. That's not something I've been very successful at doing yet. I mostly rely on morph sets and spin dials. Not something I can do until I have dials to spin!

So here's my first renders of Victoria 9.

Closeup of V9:

I haven't been happy, so far, with my test renders of Genesis 9. I'll keep working with her to see what I can do.

Gator said:

Richard Haseltine said:

GnotMe said:

Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

@Richard Haseltine

I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

Yes, the anatomical GeoCraft comes in "Genesis 9 Character Essentials". 

i have the character selected.  i even tunnel down to the exact surface.  the clickies in the product file send that error: 2022-10-21 14:04:08.920 Failed to load script: D:/DAZ 3D/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/people/genesis 9/characters/daz originals/victoria 9 hd/materials/makeup/v9 makeup lips gloss medium.dse.  usually happens when you are not selecting the correct item.  bugged product?  is anyone else having this error?

Richard Haseltine said:

GnotMe said:

Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

@Richard Haseltine

I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

Charlie Judge said:

shadowhawk1 said:

Welcome to the Victoria 9 train wreck, grab a seat and have some free popcorn with the purchase of a drink

Wait, wait. the drinks are available for purchase but only without ice and the free popcorn isn't ready yet. 

While you can order the drink without ice now. the glas for your drink will only be available next week. 

That's a good one! 

Ok, got the bonus items together with the customer service reply. They were added manually to my account on the DAZ side. Instantly appeared in DIM. But they didn't do the same for Victoria bundle. Instead I got the suggestion that it could be a filtering problem (what was already discussed in this thread). SIgh... waiting for the next round.

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.
As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

LOL I was jsut going to reply about the calling me Shadowhack1 when you corrected it. Hadn't had a good laugh like that since... Well the release of Victoria 9 :D 

To be honest, I feel for all the people that bought the pre-release bundle in good faith not knowing what was in it and are now stuck behind a gate as all of those that purchased the same bundle the day of release are getting to use her. I think daz has finally trumped their storefront disaster.

Sorry about the misspelling, I'm due to get new glasses soon.  But glad you got a laugh.
Anyway, now they have Toon Kids and Fantasy Ear morphs for G9 - But no essential (normal) body and head morphs yet.  There is "Werwulf for Genesis 9" that looks like it might have some muscle morphs in it, but it's probably one slider adjustment for the whole body.   Priorities!  Priorities!   (And no I'm not a pateint kind of person)

LOL no need to apologize, like I said I thought it was funny. Yeah I see they are coming out with more and more stuff, but strangely no morph packs. This train just keeps picking up speed. 

I am wondering who has done the priorization of items. What we have seen yetsrday and today does not make a lot of sense. I would have expected this:

1. Release of Genesis 9 and Victoria 9
2. Release of morph packs and pose converters the next day

Today's Age Control morph pack does also not make any sense, as it does require still unreleased body morphs to work with. A morph converting your figure to a 4-5 yera old girl, with adult-shaped breasts just does not make any kind of sense.

Also, the Genesis 9 Character Essentials do contain the male and female anatomy, but no material for those but the normal maps.

PowerPose does not work, as there is no template made available for Genesis 9.

Auto-fitting of hair just does not work at all. Especially trying to auto-fit dForce hair will have nice effects during simulation. @Toyen has posted a nice work-around (https://www.deviantart.com/toyen-art/journal/Tutorial-How-to-Fit-Poseable-Hair-to-Genesis-9-933611835), but that is not very universal.

In total, it seems that this release was rushed, or not carefully planned, or both. That release has failed in so many areas (apart from Victoria 9 herself - she really is damn cute).

 They appeared eventually for me without doing anything; yep the freebies are still unavailable.

sberlins said:

Maxstar Illusions said:

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

Maxstar Illusions said:

JB007 said:

Are people still waiting on the Voss Hair and Bikini? Still not there for me .. 

Yep, still no bonus items. Plus the same problem as @sberlins described above with Victoria bundle items. Only shop shows that I own them, but no products in DIM or DC (searched and filtered in any possible way to find eventually hidden product). And via the product page on the website just endless "connecting" state without any products appearing for download. Got quite a quick reply from help that the problem should be solved, but no, not solved and no more replies either. Also considering to return the product and get money back. The fun is all over.

You should definitely open a ticket to get that sorted out. I did, and it was solved within a day. Given the way this release worked (or better: failed to work), I am not sure that Daz is fully aware of all the glitches. Especially, if all the products of the bundle are shown as "purchased" but there is nothing in your library, then this may be a totally different sort of beast they have to deal with. 

Of course! The ticket is still open. Just no more replies so far.

Same here.  Some back and forth for an hour or so after I submitted the ticket on Wednesday and since then Daz support is a Sphinx.

I am still missing the pre-order bundle, too. So sad. And yes, I filtered my contents for "victoria". Only Vic 8 and 8.1 show up. DAZ website shows "purchased".

I "adopted" Genesis 1 right out of the gate. It was soooo much easier and more enjoyable to use than V4/M4. For G9 I will most likely do as I have done with every other generation after G1 (except for G8.1, which I haven't really used). I got V9, just like I got Victoria did for the other generations, and will get the body and head morphs when they come out. If there is something that comes out that I really like for G9, I'll probably get it, I'm sure if another character that I really like comes out in the next week or so, I'll get it as well (definitely a typical Thorne character, or a set of head/face morphs by Thorne). But for the most part I will no doubt continue to use what I already have for a long while and slowly build up the G9 library.

I'm not completely sold on G9 yet, the morph packs may help sell me a bit more. I'm also not sold on the figure topology, and some of the bends just don't look quite right to me. I'm in wait and see mode, with a bit of playing with the stuff I slowly pick up. I'm also holding off on G9 a bit because of another figure on the horizon else where that IMHO has much better topology. If it provides better features, bending, etc. than G9, I might go that direction. But regardless, I'm sure I will get more G9 stuff to make it useful, and if there are some features that I end up really loving (like the better expressions), G9 could end up my got to figure sooner than later.

Wanted to test out the new G9 so created 4 "Posing for the camera" poses to see how different working with G9 was.

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/93215/genesis-9-victoria-9-posing-for-picture-poses-1-4 ;

 Recently I am missing more and more product icons in my Content view.  Current example is the new Victoria 9 product.  I have uninstalled and re-installed, and updated metadata to no avail.  I assume the product icon is located in the Support Folder in My DAZ Connect Library/data/cloud/1_87472/runtime/support

I have attached both a screen shot of my Smart Content view and the JPG from the support folder.  This product has been missing the icon since I originally downloaded the product the day it was released.  I install everything via Smart Content, I have DIM but only use that to install/update programs and I do have DAZ Central.

The product works correctly.

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm more selective these days. I ignored all the Genesis 8.1 stuff. I'll eventually get the Victoria 9 character, and the head & body morphs as well as any expression and pose packs that I like. I'll stick to real-world clothing. I am waiting till more content is available before I pass judgement on this whole unified male/female mesh thing.

I got Victoria 9 and am very happy with how she renders. I had some trouble with 8.1 characters coming out looking a bit plastic, versus I had a much easier time with 8.0. I'm sure it is due to user error/not being great at lights. In any even, I'll be fully on board once Michael 9 makes his appearance. Before then, I may dabble here and there. I'm definitely interested!

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

Charlie Judge said:

shadowhawk1 said:

Welcome to the Victoria 9 train wreck, grab a seat and have some free popcorn with the purchase of a drink

Wait, wait. the drinks are available for purchase but only without ice and the free popcorn isn't ready yet. 

While you can order the drink without ice now. the glas for your drink will only be available next week. 

Charlie Judge said:

shadowhawk1 said:

Welcome to the Victoria 9 train wreck, grab a seat and have some free popcorn with the purchase of a drink

Wait, wait. the drinks are available for purchase but only without ice and the free popcorn isn't ready yet. 

While you can order the drink without ice now. the glas for your drink will only be available next week. 

shadowhawk1 said:

Welcome to the Victoria 9 train wreck, grab a seat and have some free popcorn with the purchase of a drink

Wait, wait. the drinks are available for purchase but only without ice and the free popcorn isn't ready yet.