GLE said:

About splitting the library, I've tried some configurations and it will not always work as intended. I didn't document my findings, but IIRC you can for example setup a secondary library containing only \data\DAZ3D\people\Genesis 8\Male\morphs or whatever the correct path to the morphs is. If you fool around with the Runtime folder instead, things won't go as smoothly. I wasn't very thorough in these tests, maybe I did something incorrectly. 

You don't have to "fool" around with the folder structure, you could even keep DS/DIM/DAZ Central/DAZ Connect believing that the one and only Content Library was on a 250GB C-drive, while in reality all the files would be located on several other drives.

I no longer replace drives unless they are way smaller than the others, I just add more drives and use junctions to move stuff on them. This allows me to use smaller (1TB SSD/4TB USB) drives instead of having to pay by the nose for one big enough to hold everything, only to find that in a year I would need to replace that one with even bigger and more expensive one.

Ok ... I have manual downloaded and have checked all the files in the product. I also installed it from DAZ Server (manual installation) and everything is in place .... I am re-posting the message I sent to Dougj if it helps ...
 

I have the same version with me - 4.15.02 -  (I am out of town and I have not the unencrypted files with me) but the script works fine in my laptop... I will try to figure out what is going on with this error, but I will have more information when I returned to my main PC next week....

The error said, more or less, that the script is not seeing the Content Library or the Smart Library, or you execute from a non mapped folder of DAZ Studio.
First of all .... I see in your log that your library is in your "D:/Users/Doug/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/Content/" folder. Make sure that this is a valid mapped folder ... you can see it in your DS by choosing the Content Library pane and then click on the menu button (the button I marked with the green arrow in the next screenshot https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E__tKrQQHkcb-orRg-64Y0YWsQsxhRPo/view?usp=sharing). In the pop up menu choose "Content Directory Manager" to open the next dialog (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XAANC7amacuOv2xCIiwdSWaGXOsIXaFJ/view?usp=sharing). Make sure the path "D:/Users/Doug/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/Content/" is listed in your "DAZ Studio Formats" folders. (if not, you can select the "DAZ Studio Format" as the red arrow shows and press the "Add" button to add it to the list).

 

A second though is to check that the "Content Library" tab is valid in your DS. You can go to menu "Window/Panes (Tabs)/"  and check if the "Content Library" pane is on (it should be highlighted). If it is not on you can click it in this dialog to bring it into the studio.

 

A question about installation ... Did you use DIM or manual install of the product?... it may be relevant as some problems have been reported to DAZ for some products that are installed through DAZ Central...

 

Also, try to execute the script from within the Content Library for the first time.

 

If these steps are a dead end send me to see what else could be wrong ...

 

Sorry for the inconvenience

 

-Mike

 

I also have win 10 x 64bit.

Mark_e593e0a5 the manual is in the "\ReadMe's\MikeD" folder and in the "data\MikeD\Pins_For_Content_Library\Icons" folder (you can check it in the zipped file of the product - You can take the zip file from your DAZ page in your account / Product Library Tab, if you chose the product and choose Download Zip under the "manual" header). The open manual script actually tells your os to open the pdf with the default program for .pdf files ... it works for me ... there were some references for glitches with acrobat reader in the past but it is not a DS problem but an acrobat reader issue (if you have this as the default pdf reader). In my laptop I have acrobat reader but it is not causing me any issues so far (the manual script opens normally the file into the acrobat reader)!

- Mike

...so this explains all the "broken graphics" icons I'm seeing lately in posts, particularly on images liked to from the galleries. 

Noah LGP said:

Offline people will slowly disappear because Windows will become 100% online like ChromeOS.

...so basically our PCs will become little more than glorified "terminals" all jacked into some central worldwide "matrix" (a term from a cyberpunk role play game I am involved with).  Sounds like a decker's hacker's dream.

I do all my Daz work in offline mode to conserver system resources. the downside anything being fully dependent of online mode will always be connect speed, monthly download limits, and in some cases, situations like weather, atmospheric conditions, and bandwidth saturation. 

Richard Haseltine said:

While I think the antipathy to Daz Central and Daz Connect is excessive, for your needs I agree that Install Manager would probably be best https://www.daz3d.com/get_install_manager/

Thanks for the link! Trying now...

Hopefully something new will come along and make this easier!

While I think the antipathy to Daz Central and Daz Connect is excessive, for your needs I agree that Install Manager would probably be best https://www.daz3d.com/get_install_manager/

frank0314 said:

DIM imo is the easiest

Agreed! Stay away from central or connect IMO

I have aquired a new PC and would like to install everything I've bought from Daz...nearly 6k packages...

I can click one at a time in Daz Central but that's going to take forever. Is there a faster way?

That's it...

How do I install and download all my packages?

I already solved it by installing the new daz central. Everything works fine again :)

Poser format content should install with Daz Central, and generally should work in DS. Check in the Content Library under Poser Formats, some older content may not have the necessary metadata to appear in Smart Content.

Thanks! How does one load these older things (which I'm guessing don't work with Daz Central). Does the presence of Daz type files in the description of included files/parts "generally" indicate that it should work in Daz 4.15? (Not looking for guarantees - just enough knowledge to have a degree of confidence on the subject.)

richardandtracy said:

sandmanmax said:

richardandtracy said:

That looks really magnificent. I do have a problem though - it involves the word 'Plug-in'. I have discovered that manual downloads are impossible on plug-ins, and with an Android tablet as my internet connection, that's all I can do. DAZ's policy of making DIM/DAZ Central the only download method puts plug-ins out of reach for me. It's a shame, as the backgrounds look as fantastic as every other US component.

Is getting a used laptop in the realm of possibility for you?  That's what I did and it's my dedicated DIM device. DIM downloads a zip file and then I can copy it on to a flash drive to transfer it to my desktop.  And the manual install process isn't complicated.

Ideally yes. In practice...I really don't need or want another computer at home. A low spec laptop would drive me up the wall. It would only be used to download plugins. A tablet, in contrast to a low spec laptop, is fast to turn on, doesn't have MS Teams (or MS anything) to foul it up, doesn't have manufacturers bloatware introducing security holes, or anything like that. Then, the Laptop being used so rarely would spend a majority of its time downloading updates, and being a low spec thing would be virtually unable to respond to a cursor move until the updates were done - and experience suggests that would be hours after starting. My kids have had updates kill the battery management on their laptops (making them only work when plugged in) and every removed update gets reinstated next time -it makes you at the mercy of poor quality MS updates. It's needless agro I don't want. All in all, a desperately unattractive alternative, or maybe an alternative of desperation. Just not for me.

LOL!  I get it.  I'm an Android tablet fan, too.  Glad Howie was able to get you a copy of the Accelerator.  It's a game-changer.  Enjoy!

Zwyt said:

Yeah, so I am a little late to the party I guess, but I struggled with what the OP posted too, did the same thing that felixmusdie said, and hid the files in the same location as he said in the "My Daz Connect Library" folder and it worked perfectly, so I can confirm that some users will have to do this. I have been installing nearly everything through DIM or Daz Central too, except for a few items here or there that I installed through connect. For some reason the 8.1 files and folders that the OP said to hide are in my "My Daz 3D Library" as well, I really don't know how they got both places unless Daz does it automatically because I am pretty sure I didn't install them there unless it was accidental. Evidently whatever is in the Daz Connect Library is indeed accessed first and whatever is there overrides whatever is anywhere else. The location in "My Daz Connect Library" was exactly the same as felixmustdie's [LOCATION] \data\cloud\1_42071\data\daz 3d\genesis 8\female 8_1\morphs\daz 3d, and then mail 8_1 for the male of course, so you might want to check for the folders here first because if you have them here then you will have to hide them here or they won't work no matter where else you hide them. If this was clarified in another thread already I'm sorry, but sometimes it's a little difficult to find everything written on a certain subject on these forums.

Okay os I got stuff sorted out, it appears that Genesis 8 Starter Essentials was installed both by Daz Connect and by DIM or Daz Central, I got rid of the Daz Connect Installation and now everything works as the original poster said that it would. So the important thing is to make sure you don't have Genesis 8 Starter Essentials installed through Daz Connect and make sure that it is installed either through DIM/Daz Central or manually and everything should work fine.

If you have used DIM/Daz Central/manual installation with your assets, you can get the visemes back if you follow this;

Making the G8 base expressions (and any expressions that are using them) work on G8.1 requires removing dummy/placeholder expressions that are installed to G8.1 morph folders - These dummy/placeholder expression files have no other function than to prevent the base G8 expressions from loading. 

The dummy/placeholder files are located in;

...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)
...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)

Please make sure you are removing the files from G8.1 morph folders and not G8 morph folders.

Richard Haseltine said:

• C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonGlossyMetal.duf

preset_shader

C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library/ is the default location for Daz Install manager to place files. The reset is a location within that content directory.

• C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonMetal.duf

C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/ looks to be the folder Central is using - so you set C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/ as its root folder and it is placing thimgs within that.

• C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/InstallManager/ManifestFiles/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/Iray/Daz PBRSkin/Daz Iray PBRSkin.duf

The manifest file is what tells Install manager/Daz Central what it has installed and where; again, this is using the base Daz Central path you set and then a set subfolder within that for a sepecific kind of data

• F:/!D DRIVE/DS4_5/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonGlossyMetal.duf

F:/!D DRIVE/DS4_5/My DAZ 3D Library/ is the folder you set as a content directory.

There is nothing special about having a folder called My Daz 3d Library, and it would be less confusing if you didn't use the same name for each content directory.

I wouldn't use the program data folder, but there's nothing wrong as such with using that location. However, if your C: drive is an SSD you might prefer to use a mechanical drive for content, and if you install to C: you may have to do some restoration work should you reinstall Windows (and would want to avoid reformatting the C: drive when doing so).

Thanks!!

If you are installing content within Daz Studio (ie. using DAZ Connect), the content will be installed to a completely different folder structure than what is used by the other installation methods, which means that if you install both inside Daz Studio and DIM/Daz Central/Manually, you are using twice the storage space and still Daz Connect installed (often corrupted) content gets priority over (working) content that's installed by any other means.

felixmustdie said:

Thank you for this topic. I had trouble getting it to work. I had the "cloud" issue, so I thought I'd spell it out here in a lil more detail for anyone else struggling.

 

I have the DAZ 3D program installed on my C:Drive

C:\Daz 3D\Applications\Data\DAZ 3D\My DAZ 3D Library\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D

I did the steps in OP, and it had no effect.

However, I have a custom library where I install all the free stuff I find, and that's in a separate location. For me it's my primary library.

Say If I download a file, and it has 'data' / 'people' / 'runtime' folders, the place where  I put/unzip these files to is the location

[LOCATION] \data\cloud\1_42071\data\daz 3d\genesis 8\female 8_1\morphs\daz 3d

This is where I found secondary/duplicate versions of the folders mentioned in OP. Quickly followed OP's steps, and it worked like a charm. THANKS @certaintree38 !

I'm not sure what '1_42071' is referring to? Maybe a unique Daz ID for use with the store? But anyway be aware u might have to navigate manually rather than cut n paste the above.

Yeah, so I am a little late to the party I guess, but I struggled with what the OP posted too, did the same thing that felixmusdie said, and hid the files in the same location as he said in the "My Daz Connect Library" folder and it worked perfectly, so I can confirm that some users will have to do this. I have been installing nearly everything through DIM or Daz Central too, except for a few items here or there that I installed through connect. For some reason the 8.1 files and folders that the OP said to hide are in my "My Daz 3D Library" as well, I really don't know how they got both places unless Daz does it automatically because I am pretty sure I didn't install them there unless it was accidental. Evidently whatever is in the Daz Connect Library is indeed accessed first and whatever is there overrides whatever is anywhere else. The location in "My Daz Connect Library" was exactly the same as felixmustdie's [LOCATION] \data\cloud\1_42071\data\daz 3d\genesis 8\female 8_1\morphs\daz 3d, and then mail 8_1 for the male of course, so you might want to check for the folders here first because if you have them here then you will have to hide them here or they won't work no matter where else you hide them. If this was clarified in another thread already I'm sorry, but sometimes it's a little difficult to find everything written on a certain subject on these forums.

I uninstalled it and reinstalled it using Daz Central and now it loads OK. The problem seems to be only when installing from Daz Studio.

I uninstalled it and reinstalled it using Daz Central and now is working OK. As you said, it seems to happen only when installed from Daz Studio.

• C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonGlossyMetal.duf

preset_shader

C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library/ is the default location for Daz Install manager to place files. The reset is a location within that content directory.

• C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonMetal.duf

C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/ looks to be the folder Central is using - so you set C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/ as its root folder and it is placing thimgs within that.

• C:/ProgramData/DAZ 3D/cms/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/InstallManager/ManifestFiles/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/Iray/Daz PBRSkin/Daz Iray PBRSkin.duf

The manifest file is what tells Install manager/Daz Central what it has installed and where; again, this is using the base Daz Central path you set and then a set subfolder within that for a sepecific kind of data

• F:/!D DRIVE/DS4_5/My DAZ 3D Library/Shader Presets/DS Defaults/dzToonGlossyMetal.duf

F:/!D DRIVE/DS4_5/My DAZ 3D Library/ is the folder you set as a content directory.

There is nothing special about having a folder called My Daz 3d Library, and it would be less confusing if you didn't use the same name for each content directory.

I wouldn't use the program data folder, but there's nothing wrong as such with using that location. However, if your C: drive is an SSD you might prefer to use a mechanical drive for content, and if you install to C: you may have to do some restoration work should you reinstall Windows (and would want to avoid reformatting the C: drive when doing so).