I'll say this: Getting good lighting and render quality in a 3DL render is somewhat laborious. Uber lights help a lot. Even with my modest 3060 card, I usually get faster results in Iray than with 3DL. And I do love Filament for previewing and setting up scenes. I should probably make it a point to buy some of the Filament lighting and shadow add-ons. That said, I like 3DL and I'm a little sad to see it go. It allows for unrealistic lighting and a different render aesthetic. And though I'll have ongoing access to it through my saved old versions, I'm still going to have to be careful about my installations.And eventually, I'm going to have to get a newer GC. Not sure what that will do. By then, maybe I won't care?

It's the march of time. Technology is a fast-running treadmill. We all get thrown off in the end. 

Use Filament, its better if you need fast renders. Adobe Lirghtroom Classic to 'fake things'...and... it works, belive me. And have some IAs now to help you to improve renders.

kenmo said:

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

IceDragonArt said:

Silent Winter said:

IceDragonArt said:

Interesting.  Thank you!  So it needs its on textures?  Iray textures won't work?  

Not different textures, but the surface properties need tweaking as it's a different shader. Some stuff looks okay off the bat, other stuff looks too bright.

This can help: https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament ;

Thank you!

https://www.daz3d.com/easy-filatoon is another good set of scripts if you like doing toon/anime style art. 

Thanks for sharing this link. I really liked the example renders, But I would prefer to be able to  tone done the Anime look a bit to be more like Marvel or DC comics. Can it?

Cheers

 

Check out this post:

 https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/9127721/#Comment_9127721 

3Diva, the Easy Filatoon PA, posted some renders in comic book styles, done with Easy Filatoon outline styles and other presets.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

if it's any consolation it's now too late if you didn't back up 4.25 

so goodbye to 3Delight, learn to love iray, Filament or exporting to other applications 

(or converting for Carrara 8.5, can still load duf there but needs some work)

 

Vue works for me. I wish there as a magic script that converted Iray materials to the standard PBR.   Vue aheres to both PBR Metallic/Roughness and PBR Specular/Glossiness. 

if it's any consolation it's now too late if you didn't back up 4.25 

so goodbye to 3Delight, learn to love iray, Filament or exporting to other applications 

(or converting for Carrara 8.5, can still load duf there but needs some work)

Charlie Judge said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Havos said:

namffuak said:

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

I doubt you will be unable to download previous purchases due to DAZ no longer having the licence. I believe it means they can not distribute it to new users, but can still give old copies to existing customers. As such I expect 1-3 to remain available to download for all of us that own them.

No, they cannot distribute it to anyone as I understand  it - hence everyone losing 3delight in DS 4.

Does this mean that I will no longer be able to dowload DS 3 from my library? 

It would be prudent to back it up, but I don't have any concrete information.

Charlie Judge said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Havos said:

namffuak said:

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

I doubt you will be unable to download previous purchases due to DAZ no longer having the licence. I believe it means they can not distribute it to new users, but can still give old copies to existing customers. As such I expect 1-3 to remain available to download for all of us that own them.

No, they cannot distribute it to anyone as I understand  it - hence everyone losing 3delight in DS 4.

Does this mean that I will no longer be able to dowload DS 3 from my library? 

Given that  DS3 is just 3DL - that has been my assumption. With luck Daz will leave it until the 31st. 

Richard Haseltine said:

Havos said:

namffuak said:

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

I doubt you will be unable to download previous purchases due to DAZ no longer having the licence. I believe it means they can not distribute it to new users, but can still give old copies to existing customers. As such I expect 1-3 to remain available to download for all of us that own them.

No, they cannot distribute it to anyone as I understand  it - hence everyone losing 3delight in DS 4.

Does this mean that I will no longer be able to dowload DS 3 from my library? 

Padone said:

My personal opinion is that iray is capable enough to convert 3delight shaders, indeed this is how we import 3dl in blender converting it first to iray.

Iray dosn't do anything in that context, Daz wrote code to convert 3Delight materials to Iray materials.

There may be some bump map to adjust as iray can't convert the bump height correctly, or some complex materials may need some adjustement too, but in general the conversion is good. As for the speed iray used with the cpu is far superior to 3dl with full ray tracing, while for 3dl without raytracing you can use filament instead, though in this case the shader conversion is not that good unfortunately as filament can't do most iray features, particularly transmapped hairs don't come good with filament.

The real advantage of 3dl is memory, as iray requires a vast amount of ram to render the scene while 3dl is tiled thus a small ram is enough. But ram alone doesn't cost much and most PCs can be upgraded for that.

I wonder if we're gonna see an uptick in new Filament products. There's definitely gonna be a market for them, because Iray is not going to suit everyone's tastes. 

Havos said:

namffuak said:

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

I doubt you will be unable to download previous purchases due to DAZ no longer having the licence. I believe it means they can not distribute it to new users, but can still give old copies to existing customers. As such I expect 1-3 to remain available to download for all of us that own them.

No, they cannot distribute it to anyone as I understand  it - hence everyone losing 3delight in DS 4.

namffuak said:

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

I doubt you will be unable to download previous purchases due to DAZ no longer having the licence. I believe it means they can not distribute it to new users, but can still give old copies to existing customers. As such I expect 1-3 to remain available to download for all of us that own them.

Bejaymac said:

I take it this will also mean DS 2 and 3 will no longer be available.

Been using DS since 1.3, sad to say but 4.24.0.3 will be my last version of Studio, no use for Filament, and Iray is crap imho, can't even handle an Alpha channel without having to jump through hoops.

DS versions 1, 2 and 3 (final release versions) are still showing in my product library - I suspect that they will go away before the end of the month as they are all 3DL.

I have copies of all downloaded quite a while ago but never used; TBH I wouldn't be surprized to find the installers won't work on current systems. 

felis said:

First part in the product description "The RSSY 3DL and Iray to Filament script"

So you it is a script, but I can't see it can be done in another way.

Why do you have troubles running scripts, do you get an error or what?

No, I have not purchased this script yet.

But intend to.

However I read somewhere the new DAZ Studio ver 6.xxx  is still being developed and I read somewhere certain scripts may not work.

BUT I maybe wrong, hence the question.

Sorry about the confusion

First part in the product description "The RSSY 3DL and Iray to Filament script"

So you it is a script, but I can't see it can be done in another way.

Why do you have troubles running scripts, do you get an error or what?

Richard Haseltine said:

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament was the intended link

Thanks Richard, once again I am in your debt for assisting a silly old senior likeme.

Just one question if you do not mind, is this one of those scripts which may have issues running with the new Daz Studio?

Again Thanks kindly...

Kenmo 

kenmo said:

Silent Winter said:

IceDragonArt said:

Interesting.  Thank you!  So it needs its on textures?  Iray textures won't work?  

Not different textures, but the surface properties need tweaking as it's a different shader. Some stuff looks okay off the bat, other stuff looks too bright.

This can help: https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament

 

Sorry but your link does not work for me. Is it a typo?

Cheers

 

Yeah - but one added by the forum. I'm unsure why but sometimes a space or whatever after a link adds a %C2%A0 to the end of a link, making it unusable:

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament

^That one should work (or the one Richard posted above which definitely works)

For future reference (if another link from the forum doesn't work) - look for that code at the end of the link, delete it, and the link should work.

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament was the intended link

miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

IceDragonArt said:

Silent Winter said:

IceDragonArt said:

Interesting.  Thank you!  So it needs its on textures?  Iray textures won't work?  

Not different textures, but the surface properties need tweaking as it's a different shader. Some stuff looks okay off the bat, other stuff looks too bright.

This can help: https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament ;

Thank you!

https://www.daz3d.com/easy-filatoon is another good set of scripts if you like doing toon/anime style art. 

Thanks for sharing this link. I really liked the example renders, But I would prefer to be able to  tone done the Anime look a bit to be more like Marvel or DC comics. Can it?

Cheers

Silent Winter said:

IceDragonArt said:

Interesting.  Thank you!  So it needs its on textures?  Iray textures won't work?  

Not different textures, but the surface properties need tweaking as it's a different shader. Some stuff looks okay off the bat, other stuff looks too bright.

This can help: https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-3delight-and-iray-to-filament ;

Sorry but your link does not work for me. Is it a typo?

Cheers