So you can no longer customize eyes? One of the things I liked to do was mix n' match irises...like I'd load in Victoria 8.1's eyes...keep the sclera, but swap in irises from someone else (usually Mousso). I'd also often tweak the iris color in the shader channel. So...we can't do this anymore? (Obviously, I know we wouldn't be able to use G8.1 stuff..I'm just talking about customizing in general.) Must-Use-Out-Of-The-Box? 

cgidesign said:

G9.

Am I blind or is there only one face surface - no individual lips anymore?

And the same for the eyes? No sclera, iris etc.?

Unfortunately, alternate eye options and makeup are a separate purchase with Vic 9. Victoria 9 HD Makeup and the eyes in Character Essentials. 

nonesuch00 said:

AllenArt said:

So, Vicky 9 is very pretty and maybe the most realistic looking of the Daz figures so far. I have noticed a few things I'm not so enamored with tho (some is Vicky specific and some are G9 specific) ;).

I would love to be able to ditch the freckles. I don't like freckles. I have never liked freckles (nothing against people that have freckles). It's just not something that I care to render. I also will never use the vitiligo skin and thought it was a really weird choice to include. Also...fetish wear in the bundle of a premier figure? WTH? I never buy that stuff and even if DS is used for, uh, some pron and things, it's a niche outfit, no matter how nicely made it looks (and it does look very well made, so cudos to the PA who made it). I would just rather have more normal clothes in a bundle and have the "specialized" stuff for sale separate.

I don't mind the anatomical elements being in a separate package. That way, no one needs to worry about buying an expensive bundle to get them - they just buy the Character Essentials and done. 

Even tho the Character Essentials has loads of eye textures in it, that's no excuse for Vicky to have only one in her materials - for what she costs, there should be more in there. The makeup also costs extra...what is up with that? I feel like I'm being nickled and dimed to death, especially at a time in the world where I'm least able to afford it and will likely be able to afford it even less as times goes on. As it is, Vicky feels like a super-expensive, underwhelming character. Niche skins, outfit, no extra eye textures, makeup costs extra. All in all, most PA character makers give better value for less than a Daz core figure - and that includes Victoria 9. Shame.
And what's up with not having the head and body morphs and expressions not dropping the same day as the figure? A really dumb move IMVHO. I would have really loved to have something to create a new character of my own with (especially on the male side since I know we ain't gonna have a Michael 9 for gawd knows how long). There will be 20 female characters before that happens.

You must still have a glitch.

I ordered today, or rather it was yesterday now, and got the Makeup for Victoria 9 HD Intro Bundle included, although it wasn't available until afternoon via DIM.

As far as the freckles being niche, you're not very observant in the real world if you're living in USA, Canada, or Europe as they are extremely common. The other is not common, at least so visible in most people but many have a splotch or two. Both are a challenge to do realistically and they did quite well. At any rate, the G9 Essentials includes non-freckled options until a character of your liking comes out. 

I did get the bundle and I did get the makeup in the bundle, but for those buying just the character, it's a separate purchase. And yes, I know freckles aren't really very niche, but because they CAN be an overlay, I was disappointed that we are stuck with them for Vicky 9. At least less freckles would have been better as the Vic9 skin is covered with em. As far as alternate skins go atm, the ones in the starter essentials are not an option for me. They look flat. I'll have to tweak the h*ll out of them for them to look right to me. I guess I'm just in a holding pattern until the G9 stuff starts hitting the store.

This will be an insta-buy for sure.

RiverSoftArt said:

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

When can we expect a Bone Minion for Genesis 9? I hope it is "really soon" . I do have a lot of poses for G8 and G3 that would really look good on Genesis 9 and Victoria 9.

Bone Minion for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Poses for Genesis 9 is submitted and ready for testing.  Release dates are at Daz's sole discretion, so I don't know when it will be released; I would not expect it during the Genesis 9 launch period.

Robert Freise said:

I bought the preorder and it has totally disappeared from my Product Library

I did also and I believe that my 'Presale Bundle' has been renamed https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-intro-bundle now.

I had printed and saved the product pages and used them when I sent my report to Daz Customer Service yesterday. Other than the free items, I now have everything that is included. Slowly downloading into all of my computers. 

donavanneilart said:

Jay Versluis said:

I've been messing around with custom morphs in ZBrush and the figure is much easier to work with than G8 for me. I haven't tried making a bigger character yet, but this is Victoria 9 with ZBrush morphs and I gave her a significantly bigger waistline and a bigger belly. There was a little bit of the usual folding when a character doesn't have a corrective morph for unusual shapes, but it was much easier to smooth out.

That's fantastic @plasma_ring!! Thank you for sharing

Acutally, the shape looks really natural. I have a feeling -- just from the introduction we've had so far -- that our figures in this generation will look more natural overall -- better proportions, better bending and flexing, less exaggerated features (e.g. breast size). I'm really excited for this! 

Thank you, Jay, I'm glad you like it! 

And so far I'm pretty stoked about posing and shaping, too. The unified mesh was the big draw for me, but I picked up JWolf's expressions pack and I'm really impressed. I don't usually buy expressions because they can easily look really bizarre on characters they weren't made for, and a lot of my endless tweaking of my characters has been to simplify their features enough that they don't look off when expressing more than three emotions. So far even with different shapes I haven't had any real problems, and can manage expressions that would typically take me hours on a custom shape with some dial noodling. Looking forward to seeing how they work out when I have access to more morphs. 

My first render with Genesis 9 assets, including Victoria 9.

NNVIATWAS - nearly naked Vicki in a temple with a sword.  The stone cube is an elevated altar.

japangg said:

please forgive my ignorance or stupidity.  I am not ion front of my daz pc right now.  So, do i still need to purchase G9 Character Essential to get the anatomical elements/genitalia apart from the Vic9 HD bundle pre-order?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, the Victoria 9 bundle does not include the Anatomical Elements, just textures for them.

[Victoria 9 bundle items are a no-show] in DIM and DC.  Would be nice for DAZ to rectify this earlier than later.

catastrophical0 said:

Cris Palomino said:

bjoernb78 said:

Still no pre-order bonuses in DIM.

It's in DIM for me. 

Chris will those who preordered still get the hair which we was supposed to get for free if we preordered as I didnt get mine. I only got the character and I preordered a good few weeks ago.

As I understand it they did a first sweep yesterday for the actual Victoria 9 bundle, with a second sweep for the bonus items to follow later when the servers were quieter (adding these ite4ms takes a fair bit of processing). I'm not sure if that should have happened by now or not - it's coming up for 6AM Daz time - but I have sent a folow up asking about its status.

veen said:

alienarea said:

Gogger said:

YIKES.
I just got an email from DAZ saying they miss me as I haven't been around much, with an incentive to come back:
"Better yet, we have an exclusive offer just for you! Return to Daz today and use this Coupon Code to get an EXTRA $10 OFF* Victoria 9 HD."
Erm.... uh, I preordered the V9 bundle on day one, and I shop every single day, have bought over 11,000 items, and still don't have V9 or Voss hair in my DIM yet, but if I buy V9 TODAY, I can get $10 off?  SeRiOuSly?  Now I want V9 AND the $10 reward.
<sigh>  I'm still at work so can't play anyway. I've been with DAZ since right before they started giving DAZ Studio away for free ) In fact I PAID for it - but they gave me a store credit), and I've seen a lot of uh, "stuff", but it is getting pretty wild up in here!
I was poking fun at people getting all worked up 1 minute after the store changed over last night, but it is justified now. I mean, this isn't DAZ's FIRST new character rollout. Why? Just WHY does it always get so borked up?

Same here. Finally got V9, but not the preorder Voss hair. But the same stupid offer you got.

It's not about money or freebies. I want an apology from Daz for messing up (again).

Sounds like a good habbit to applogize. They even "forgot" to add an surface slider for the lip surface. So If you want to alter the glossyness of the lips you gonna alter the whole face .. ([eh?])

The lips are deliberately part of the face surface. You may not like the decisio but it is not a mistake and was made to give enhanced results.

Moved to the Commons as it is not a Daz Studio topic, closed as this is already being discussed in the main Genesis 9 thread at the top of the forum.

I thought the main Victoria 9 products were meant to be done, with the bonus items being added when the servers were less busy. I will ask for a status update.

alienarea said:

Gogger said:

YIKES.
I just got an email from DAZ saying they miss me as I haven't been around much, with an incentive to come back:
"Better yet, we have an exclusive offer just for you! Return to Daz today and use this Coupon Code to get an EXTRA $10 OFF* Victoria 9 HD."
Erm.... uh, I preordered the V9 bundle on day one, and I shop every single day, have bought over 11,000 items, and still don't have V9 or Voss hair in my DIM yet, but if I buy V9 TODAY, I can get $10 off?  SeRiOuSly?  Now I want V9 AND the $10 reward.
<sigh>  I'm still at work so can't play anyway. I've been with DAZ since right before they started giving DAZ Studio away for free ) In fact I PAID for it - but they gave me a store credit), and I've seen a lot of uh, "stuff", but it is getting pretty wild up in here!
I was poking fun at people getting all worked up 1 minute after the store changed over last night, but it is justified now. I mean, this isn't DAZ's FIRST new character rollout. Why? Just WHY does it always get so borked up?

Same here. Finally got V9, but not the preorder Voss hair. But the same stupid offer you got.

It's not about money or freebies. I want an apology from Daz for messing up (again).

Sounds like a good habbit to applogize. They even "forgot" to add an surface slider for the lip surface. So If you want to alter the glossyness of the lips you gonna alter the whole face .. ([eh?])

I don't want to be mean but too me she looks like a copy of last generations Victoria.

I don't want to be mean and this my opinion, but this new generation from Daz is one not realistic, two ugly as all get out, and three the new Victoria model looks like a carbon copy of the last generations model. As well as the textures looks like it was made from Microsoft paint. Buy the way sorry if I offending anyone with my comment.

Artini said:

What expressions pack are you talking about?

I have only used visemes, that are the part of Victoria 9.

I also wonder, how hard is to create my own expressions for her.

https://www.daz3d.com/emotions-expressions-for-victoria-9

This one.

Gogger said:

YIKES.
I just got an email from DAZ saying they miss me as I haven't been around much, with an incentive to come back:
"Better yet, we have an exclusive offer just for you! Return to Daz today and use this Coupon Code to get an EXTRA $10 OFF* Victoria 9 HD."
Erm.... uh, I preordered the V9 bundle on day one, and I shop every single day, have bought over 11,000 items, and still don't have V9 or Voss hair in my DIM yet, but if I buy V9 TODAY, I can get $10 off?  SeRiOuSly?  Now I want V9 AND the $10 reward.
<sigh>  I'm still at work so can't play anyway. I've been with DAZ since right before they started giving DAZ Studio away for free ) In fact I PAID for it - but they gave me a store credit), and I've seen a lot of uh, "stuff", but it is getting pretty wild up in here!
I was poking fun at people getting all worked up 1 minute after the store changed over last night, but it is justified now. I mean, this isn't DAZ's FIRST new character rollout. Why? Just WHY does it always get so borked up?

Same here. Finally got V9, but not the preorder Voss hair. But the same stupid offer you got.

It's not about money or freebies. I want an apology from Daz for messing up (again).

copy and paste from Product suggestions:
_I urgently like to see an edge looped breast geocraft for G 9 with an edge loop geometry as we know it from Victoria 4, Genesis, Genesis 2, Genesis 3, Genesis 8 and Genesis 8.1 with optional HD morphs.
I'd also like to have an edge looped modelled navel with HD option for Genesis 9_ .

What expressions pack are you talking about?

I have only used visemes, that are the part of Victoria 9.

I also wonder, how hard is to create my own expressions for her.

Hello, i have preordered the Victoria Bundle and have no Vos Hair and Bikini which was announced as i preordered!