I have problems with this product.

When I add the single textures it works good * takes ages to apply * but, when I want to use the apply all, it does look wrong.

The first Image is an  example where I used V9 Makeup Apply All 02.

And the second one is how it should look like.

Loading time for all the Makeup options are quite long.

None of the Removal options work.

Has anyone else the same problem with this product?

When I clicked on the redo button to remove the Apply ALL option, it changed the skin of V9 to the Freckle one.

 

 

 

 

Richard Haseltine said:

druc said:

I haven't downloaded anything yet as my new PC has just (today) been shipped. But I did look in my DIM and didn't see the "free" items promised at the launch for pre orders. I am busy backing up (transferring) my files to a SSD so I don't want to down load anything yet. Does anyone know how we get these free items?

They stil need to be added, Daz is aware of this but running the update to add items puts a heavy load on the servers so it is being staged. That said, I thought the plan was to add them overnight so I have sent a query in. In any event, you shouldn't need to do anything to get them.

Good info because as of yet I have all the Genesis 9 stuff downloaded but the Victoria 9 HD figure and bundle has yet to show up in my DIM or DazCentral.  

Richard Haseltine said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Strictly when I asked about textures to match the base figure I was told they were there and replied to say they weren't (or at least, no one was finding them). I don't know if that registered in all the other issues so I may need to follow up to be sure daz is actually aware of the issue, once the main product availability is resolved. But yes, I was clearly told that there should be maps for the Anatomical Elements to match the base skins.

I am very sorry but I have now learned that there was a "not" missing from the reply I received. There are not, currently at least, anatomical element maps to match the base textures. Until we get some ad

d-on characters the only way to use the anatomical elements is on Victoria 9. I can only offer my apologies for having got your hopes up incorrectly. 

Thanks for following up, Richard.  That's disappointing but not surprising.  

Here's my first quickie with Victoria 9.  (ETA in case anyone's curious: Deer Lady Horns from Deer Lady Hair for G8, Raven Lady Dress for G8, Necklace from...I think it's Wild Witch for G8, Soft Curls Ponytail for G9, Makeup from the V9 makeup kit, oh and the arm thingy is from the Aurola Warrior Wolf Outfit for G8 and The Temple Below enviro)

Actually the only 8K map that comes with Victoria 9 is Victoria9_Legs2_SSS_1003.jpg why this one I don't know, maybe so this makes them correct when they specify 'to 8192 x 8192'. The 8k skin details normal maps come with the gen 9 essentials but it does state that the 8k hd maps are part of the standard gen 9 essentials. Might be worth reducing the legs to 4k, seems a waste of processing power. My guess is it is here by mistake.

Richard Haseltine said:

Strictly when I asked about textures to match the base figure I was told they were there and replied to say they weren't (or at least, no one was finding them). I don't know if that registered in all the other issues so I may need to follow up to be sure daz is actually aware of the issue, once the main product availability is resolved. But yes, I was clearly told that there should be maps for the Anatomical Elements to match the base skins.

I am very sorry but I have now learned that there was a "not" missing from the reply I received. There are not, currently at least, anatomical element maps to match the base textures. Until we get some add-on characters the only way to use the anatomical elements is on Victoria 9. I can only offer my apologies for having got your hopes up incorrectly. 

Richard Haseltine said:

I am told that there should be matching maps for the genitals, I have bounced back to say that there are not (according to you and the file list).

I'm very sorry but there was a "not" missing from the reply i received. There are not, currently at least, aantomical element maps to match the base textures. Until we get some add-on characters the only way to usde the anatomical elements is on Victoria 9. I can only offer my apologies for having got your hopes up incorrectly.

nonesuch00 said:

I bought the Victoria 9 HD Intro Bundle / Character Essentials too. The FACS and character look great & there are so many adjustments. Did you notice that the body has muscle flex adjustments for when you pose (not body builder type just sort of typical)? At least, that's what I think those are but there is so much to try out.

I was on the fence too about the beach bundle, on the one hand the clothing looks less like paper doll clothing from the effects of dForce, and on the other I own similar types of clothing already. What's likely to cinch it though is I want that wave, it's much better wave than what waves I have already for a surfing wave.

The wave you can see looks good. That is G9 with the male far east skin from the G9 Essentials. The hair is a morph of the Pixie hair. The expressions and posing is great but it's been changed so I will need to fiddle and get use to it the new way, example: check out the metatarsal and foot posing now as they are much better but so diffient I have to find reference photos of posed feet to be sure.

The autofit for is hardly working at all so I just put him in the G9 Essentials shorts although autofit is not quite working correct there too, instead of the End of Summer clothing. Propably the most useful thing in that bundle for me are the different casual shoes of which I had hardly any of.

He's about to be flipped off his board by the way. 

That looks great! I like the wave. I can see that will be fun. You did well for what you had to work with. Sorry about the quotes. I could not unquote this comment for some reason!

 

So, I'm having a problem with Victoria 9 HD Makeup

I'm mostly okay applying makeup to the character, but using the Remove All with the character selected (!) does not remove the makeup.  For a do-over, I have to reapply the character's skin.  Has anyone else had this issue and/or found a solution?

PS: This is after yesterday's update to this product.

AllenArt said:

nonesuch00 said:

AllenArt said:

So, Vicky 9 is very pretty and maybe the most realistic looking of the Daz figures so far. I have noticed a few things I'm not so enamored with tho (some is Vicky specific and some are G9 specific) ;).

I would love to be able to ditch the freckles. I don't like freckles. I have never liked freckles (nothing against people that have freckles). It's just not something that I care to render. I also will never use the vitiligo skin and thought it was a really weird choice to include. Also...fetish wear in the bundle of a premier figure? WTH? I never buy that stuff and even if DS is used for, uh, some pron and things, it's a niche outfit, no matter how nicely made it looks (and it does look very well made, so cudos to the PA who made it). I would just rather have more normal clothes in a bundle and have the "specialized" stuff for sale separate.

I don't mind the anatomical elements being in a separate package. That way, no one needs to worry about buying an expensive bundle to get them - they just buy the Character Essentials and done. 

Even tho the Character Essentials has loads of eye textures in it, that's no excuse for Vicky to have only one in her materials - for what she costs, there should be more in there. The makeup also costs extra...what is up with that? I feel like I'm being nickled and dimed to death, especially at a time in the world where I'm least able to afford it and will likely be able to afford it even less as times goes on. As it is, Vicky feels like a super-expensive, underwhelming character. Niche skins, outfit, no extra eye textures, makeup costs extra. All in all, most PA character makers give better value for less than a Daz core figure - and that includes Victoria 9. Shame.
And what's up with not having the head and body morphs and expressions not dropping the same day as the figure? A really dumb move IMVHO. I would have really loved to have something to create a new character of my own with (especially on the male side since I know we ain't gonna have a Michael 9 for gawd knows how long). There will be 20 female characters before that happens.

You must still have a glitch.

I ordered today, or rather it was yesterday now, and got the Makeup for Victoria 9 HD Intro Bundle included, although it wasn't available until afternoon via DIM.

As far as the freckles being niche, you're not very observant in the real world if you're living in USA, Canada, or Europe as they are extremely common. The other is not common, at least so visible in most people but many have a splotch or two. Both are a challenge to do realistically and they did quite well. At any rate, the G9 Essentials includes non-freckled options until a character of your liking comes out. 

I did get the bundle and I did get the makeup in the bundle, but for those buying just the character, it's a separate purchase. And yes, I know freckles aren't really very niche, but because they CAN be an overlay, I was disappointed that we are stuck with them for Vicky 9. At least less freckles would have been better as the Vic9 skin is covered with em. As far as alternate skins go atm, the ones in the starter essentials are not an option for me. They look flat. I'll have to tweak the h*ll out of them for them to look right to me. I guess I'm just in a holding pattern until the G9 stuff starts hitting the store.

I know what you mean but they'd need to make them as an underlay to get them looking realistic as what they done here. Maybe in the transparency color slot in surfaces or even better if they extended the "Overlay" method in DAZ Studio shader to do an "Underlay" method in the transparency color / image and other appropriate slots in the shader so they could do freckles, vitiligo, varicose veins, flushed arteries, fat mottling, and so on for underskin details for furture characters. 

ecks201 said:

nellis1603 said:

Still waiting for the Voss hair part of the V9 preorder. Think they must be doing them one by one. I don't mind the wait but the fact Voss hair doesn'y show in catalogue or orders keeps me on edge.

Same here.

Got everything except the Voss Hair.

I have the hair and the swimsuit 

But the Victoria 9 bundle is no longer in my Product Library and no longer shows as purchased on the product page 

memcneil70 said:

Robert Freise said:

I bought the preorder and it has totally disappeared from my Product Library

I did also and I believe that my 'Presale Bundle' has been renamed https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-intro-bundle now.

I had printed and saved the product pages and used them when I sent my report to Daz Customer Service yesterday. Other than the free items, I now have everything that is included. Slowly downloading into all of my computers. 

Yes it wasa renamed yesterday and was in my Product Library and showed Purchased on the store product page but none of the items in the bundle were showing up in my Product Library and then late last night or very early this morning I discovered that the Bundle was no longer in my Product Library and doesn't show as purchased in the store 

doubledeviant said:

I'm not so sure about Daz knowing (or caring about) the market (if we're assuming those kinds of things about the market). Is vitiligo (multicolor skin condition) really as much of a selling point as they seem to promote? Or the niche content of the Victoria 8.1 and Michael 8.1 bundles? The ambiguous genders of Autumn and Catty? The ballet themes of Clara and Hans?

Granted that 8.1 seemed to aim for a wider appeal in recent months, and there were some earlier "conventional" releases such as Jacqueline and Cleopatra, but I think the perception that Daz is aiming primarily for mainstream sex appeal is (at least somewhat) overblown. Much of early and mid 8.1 seemed to consist of a push for the opposite, to the degree that a large portion of the offered bundles struck me as being of rather limited use. Not that these things aren't good to offer as products, mind you - providing more options to more people is fine - but I did question the wisdom of filling bundles with seemingly narrow-use content (at least until bundle production cranked into overdrive).
I'm also not convinced that Vicky 9 is the bombshell she's being made out to be - she's not unattractive, but she's not especially gorgeous either. But perhaps later user renders will change my mind. *shrugs*

That's what made this such a fascinating choice. Genesis 8 seemed like a concerted effort to move away from the pin-up (or whatever you want to call it) market with a much greater variety of figueres, and the vitilingo skin choice suggests they still aspire to that as well. But then this outfit comes along as part of the launch bundle and what does that say? Confirming to the core audience that they're still going to offer the sexy stuff? I can't imagine this wasn't a deeply considered decision, given how much Genesis 9 breaks from the past. I'm terribly curious about what went into picking that outfit for this bundle.

Psyckosama said:

aaráribel caađo said:

Very interesing choice for debut outfits for Genesis 9 figures.

Daz knows its market.

Chumly said:

It is kind of funny when you think about it... 
The first character of a new generation is a red-headed, pretty, pale caucasian female with all the sexy/fetish accoutrements.  Daz knows who it is selling to
 

I'm not so sure about Daz knowing (or caring about) the market (if we're assuming those kinds of things about the market). Is vitiligo (multicolor skin condition) really as much of a selling point as they seem to promote? Or the niche content of the Victoria 8.1 and Michael 8.1 bundles? The ambiguous genders of Autumn and Catty? The ballet themes of Clara and Hans?
Granted that 8.1 seemed to aim for a wider appeal in recent months, and there were some earlier "conventional" releases such as Jacqueline and Cleopatra, but I think the perception that Daz is aiming primarily for mainstream sex appeal is (at least somewhat) overblown. Much of early and mid 8.1 seemed to consist of a push for the opposite, to the degree that a large portion of the offered bundles struck me as being of rather limited use. Not that these things aren't good to offer as products, mind you - providing more options to more people is fine - but I did question the wisdom of filling bundles with seemingly narrow-use content (at least until bundle production cranked into overdrive).
I'm also not convinced that Vicky 9 is the bombshell she's being made out to be - she's not unattractive, but she's not especially gorgeous either. But perhaps later user renders will change my mind. *shrugs*

AllenArt said:

MelissaGT said:

So you can no longer customize eyes? One of the things I liked to do was mix n' match irises...like I'd load in Victoria 8.1's eyes...keep the sclera, but swap in irises from someone else (usually Mousso). I'd also often tweak the iris color in the shader channel. So...we can't do this anymore? (Obviously, I know we wouldn't be able to use G8.1 stuff..I'm just talking about customizing in general.) Must-Use-Out-Of-The-Box? 

I "think" I saw someone mention that the new eye textures are geografts? But don't quote me on that. LOL 

The new eye textures are not geografts.

The eyes and inner mouth are now seperate conformers.  This will allow for greater variety down the road as truly custom eyes and inner mouths can be swapped in and out more easily.

The eyes are four mats, left and right eye and left and right eye moisture.  You can now easily set the left and right eye to have colors.  LIE can be used for further customization.

Diffuse and Translu textures are now in temp ?

Means they get generated and we can't save custom ones?

And Victoria uses fake reflection maps?

AllenArt said:

MelissaGT said:

So you can no longer customize eyes? One of the things I liked to do was mix n' match irises...like I'd load in Victoria 8.1's eyes...keep the sclera, but swap in irises from someone else (usually Mousso). I'd also often tweak the iris color in the shader channel. So...we can't do this anymore? (Obviously, I know we wouldn't be able to use G8.1 stuff..I'm just talking about customizing in general.) Must-Use-Out-Of-The-Box? 

I "think" I saw someone mention that the new eye textures are geografts? But don't quote me on that. LOL 

Eyes are their own figure now and all of the surfaces for all of the figures have been simplified.  It prevents a lot of ugly things like where edges meet - ex sclera to iris or face to lip.  Everything is still customizable, it's just different. 

LOL. cross posted with frank :)

A day later, still no bonus items for my prepurchase.

Just putting this here as a defense of people that screwed this one up.  As a programmer of 20 years and currently a manager of development, I can appreciate how small things could turn into big problems.  But this really is absurd.  For a problem like this to make itself visible to customers, there are failures across the board.  That includes system architecture if making a simple update is intensive enough to require time measured in days or why these updates weren't done between the date of prepurchase and product release.

As a side note, anyone else notice:

1. DAZ+ anniversary sale was only 2 weeks long this year.  Historically, these sales last a month or so.  Basically they cut their annual sale short to screw up the launch of Genesis 9 and Victoria 9.

2. The coupon DAZ sent for $10 off would have made the prepurchase for V9 with a bonus the same price as buying it at launch and picking the free item.  Both bonuses are about $10 at launch.  And the email came out several hours after the launch so it likely missed people that bought it earlier.

3. The coupon for $20 off is for items generally 5+ years old they'd probably have a hard time selling today anyways, especially with the launch of new generation of genesis.

4. The email with the coupons said they missed me in the subject line and the intro paragraph.  I've literally been buying stuff in their anniversary sale every day.  That does make my contribution to their bottom line feel kind of insignificant.

This might be wishful thinking at this point, but I hope DAZ folks make this right.  Where did that proverbial sword go?

MelissaGT said:

So you can no longer customize eyes? One of the things I liked to do was mix n' match irises...like I'd load in Victoria 8.1's eyes...keep the sclera, but swap in irises from someone else (usually Mousso). I'd also often tweak the iris color in the shader channel. So...we can't do this anymore? (Obviously, I know we wouldn't be able to use G8.1 stuff..I'm just talking about customizing in general.) Must-Use-Out-Of-The-Box? 

I "think" I saw someone mention that the new eye textures are geografts? But don't quote me on that. LOL 

lsoulrt said:

I don't want to be mean but too me she looks like a copy of last generations Victoria.

She could be Vic 8.1's sister, yes.