I have a serious problem. I cant use created scenes, scene subsets, characters from the past.

If I open something (scene, scene subset, character), everything is loaded perfectly.
I can do everything like shaping, posing, etc.
But: If I save new scene/scene subset or if I save the modified character as a new character,
and then open the scene/scene subset/character again, the character is totally deformed.

According to the log file some things can not be found (see below).
But the strange thing is that they exist in the right path.

For example this:
2022-11-25 19:44:27.752 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Aging%20Morphs%208/Jaw%20Side%20Smoother.dsf#Jaw%20Smoother?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Aging%20Morphs%208/CTRLMD_N_Value_1_AM_Z.dsf

The file "CTRLMD_N_Value_1_AM_Z.dsf" can be found in the right path:
/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Aging%20Morphs%208/...

What I dont understand is, why the hell "Jaw%20Side%20Smoother.dsf#Jaw%20Smoother?value" is expected to be under the same path?

The things at the beginning of hte path are not used for the character. But the system want to have them in the paths end the end. Why? It´s so confused. I´m so mad. Everything fucked up.

2022-11-25 19:44:27.058 [INFO] :: Resolving legacy figures...
2022-11-25 19:44:27.058 [INFO] :: Preparing modifiers...
2022-11-25 19:44:27.148 [INFO] :: Creating modifiers...
2022-11-25 19:44:27.413 [INFO] :: Creating property aliases...
2022-11-25 19:44:27.425 [INFO] :: Creating sum stage formulas...
2022-11-25 19:44:27.429 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: rThighTwist:%20/data/Meipex/GoldenPalace/GoldenPalace_Genitalia_v2/GoldenPalace_2254.dsf#rThighTwist?center_point/z - in file: /data/Meipex/GoldenPalace/GoldenPalace_Genitalia_v2/Morphs/Meipex/StormingThePalace/Vagina_Front-Back.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.681 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/Smoother%20M8%20R.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.684 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/Smoother%20M8%20L.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.684 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/RShin%20CompressM8%20Assist.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.685 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/R%20Top%20FlattenM8%20Assist.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.686 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/LShin%20CompressM8%20Assist.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.687 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/L%20Top%20FlattenM8%20Assist.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.687 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/Center%20Smoother%20M8.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.752 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Aging%20Morphs%208/Jaw%20Side%20Smoother.dsf#Jaw%20Smoother?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Aging%20Morphs%208/CTRLMD_N_Value_1_AM_Z.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:27.853 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/D%3A/Trabajo/DAZ/%21%21Glutes%20Utilities/Dformer%20Glutes.duf#D-Former_1-1?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Soto/Glutes%20Utilities/PBMGlutesUtilitiesUnderCurve.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.132 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Muscular%201.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.132 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Love%20Handles.dsf#SL_Love%20Handles?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Inverted.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.134 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Love%20Handles.dsf#SL_Love%20Handles?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%207.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.134 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%207.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.135 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Love%20Handles.dsf#SL_Love%20Handles?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%206.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.135 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%206.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.137 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%204.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.137 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%203.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.139 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%202.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.139 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease.dsf#SL_Hips%20Bend%20Crease?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Meipex/Stereo%20Love/Presets/SL_Hourglass%201.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.244 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FHMMonique8.dsf#FHMMonique8?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/FWArt/Laverne/FHM-FWLaverne.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.250 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/FWArt/Laverne/FBM-FWLaverne.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.253 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Olympia%208/FBMOlympia8.dsf#FBMOlympia8_Test?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/fabiana/KillerLegsG8/1FK-Olympia8BaseFix.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.648 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLWink_HD.dsf#eCTRLWink?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Wink_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.649 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLScream_HD.dsf#eCTRLScream?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Scream_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.650 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLRage_HD.dsf#eCTRLRage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Rage_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.651 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLPain_HD.dsf#eCTRLPain?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Pain_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.651 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eJCMPain_HD_div2.dsf#eJCMPain_HD_div2?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Pain_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.653 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLHappy_HD.dsf#eCTRLHappy?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Happy_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.653 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eJCMHappy_HD_div2.dsf#eJCMHappy_HD_div2?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Happy_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.654 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLFear_HD.dsf#eCTRLFear?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Fear_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.654 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eJCMFear_HD_div2.dsf#eJCMFear_HD_div2?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eJCMVictoria8Fear_HDLv2.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.656 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLExcitement_HD.dsf#eCTRLExcitement?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Victoria%208/eCTRLVictoria8Excitement_HD.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:28.938 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Base/PHMMouthRealismHD.dsf#PHMMouthRealismHD?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/belladzines/Nadira/Nadira%20Body.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:29.021 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Anagord/AN_NoseG8V1/AN_NoseG8V1_04.dsf#AN_NoseG8V1_04?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Anagord/AN_NoseG8V2/AN_NoseG8V2_07.dsf
2022-11-25 19:44:30.713 [INFO] :: Creating multiply stage formulas...
2022-11-25 19:44:30.727 [INFO] :: Finalizing modifiers...
2022-11-25 19:44:30.727 [INFO] :: Finalizing channels...
2022-11-25 19:44:30.730 [INFO] :: Finalizing materials...

RawArt said:

With G9 out, the future sales potential for NEW G8 products is on a downward curve....so from a business perspective PA's would naturally follow the curve that will be growing in sales over the next few years..and that would be G9.

Thats just how business works.

Unless customers don't buy into G9. It is not a given that G9 will be widely adopted by customers. G8 is the new Victoria 4, and G9 has to overcome that. If customers do not buy G9 as much, then G8 will stay viable to PAs for years to come. It isn't about the latest thing, it is which is the popular thing. This has been proven time and time again, like New Coke, or a newly hyped video game sequel being vastly less popular than the original. The new Battlefield has less active players than the previous one, which is certainly not what the developers wanted. But it doesn't matter what they want, the customers made their choice.

That is how business works. Genesis 9 still has to prove itself to a lot of customers, no matter how much Daz wants to force it on them. Maybe in time it will...but maybe it wont. As we nosedive into recession, customers may be buying less. Jumping into a new generation model requires a lot more investment, since you need so many things you already bought once before, plus converters and so on.

It is a lot cheaper to stay on G8 and buy new stuff for it from the PAs who support it.

I know that previous Genesis females were too tall, looking at you, Victoria 8. But all of the Genesis 9 characters are small. Even the males like the new Casey.  Why?

Rod Wise Driggo said:

Can't help it, but...
Michael 8 Pro Bundle: 12 items for $134.95 list price.
Michael 9 Keepin' It Casual Mega Bundle: 12 items for $255.99 list price.

That's out of my league. Both the big as well as the small bundles even though I already own Michael 9. Might pick 2-3 items but that's it.

Since we are talking about the "good old times", then compare to the Victoria 6 pro bundle. That was 16 items, for a price back then of 125 dollars. With the 51% normal release discount for DOs for PC+ members that works out at 61 dollars, or 3.8 dollars per item. It is 10.4 dollars per item for the new mega bundle (again using the standard 51% off), so there is quite a difference.

Having said that, the base price for most character/clothing items is around 20-22 dollars today, compared to 17-20 back in the Genesis 2 days, so that increase is largely in line with inflation. It is just the DO bundles that are a lot more expensive these days. Maybe they were not making much profit on them years back.

Hylas said:

Vekko hair looks great from the side, especially the right side. I find it looks good-but-not-great from the front. I actually have that issue with many male hairs by various vendors, is it just me?

Today's expression collection looks really good! But I can't help but notice that it's mostly soft expressions, nothing too extreme. And soft expressions are the easiest to make, it's the extreme ones that are tough to get right.

Relative to the Victoria 9 HD Expressions I am not liking either of the Michael 9 expression sets. Victoria 9's expressions look like just so much more effort was put into them.

As far as specific products today (20221123), I like the Fitzgeraldplatz product. The clothing products too but, well, I'm sure they'll be several nearly identical clothing products during the run of G9.

IM is locking me out of the Ready to Download tab, I assume because my Downloads folder is empty. But you did lead me to checking out the filters in the Ready to Install tab, and I made a few changes there (for instance I don't use Poser, Carrera or Hexagon), so thanks for that input anyway. I'll try some actual searches in my folders and see if I find it that way.

In case it proves a clue, the product in question is Z Model Style Poses For Genesis 8.1 Female And Victoria 8.1,

So that did it. Oy looks like the Xtransfer utility is the culprit? Is that what you see? But why does it do this? I have not had much luck with the utility.If it doesn't crash my system, I seems to stay in the system as a GF3. This however was a character bought off Daz, Victoria 7 for Victoria 8.

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-3-mediterranean-dress-and-wrap

https://www.daz3d.com/sy-victoria-3-and-michael-3-clones-for-genesis-8

More Tests with Subdivision, Smoothing, Figure Morphs, and Joint Bends - Seems to Work as Intended

Base no movement and no bend.

Morph basic feminine FBM

Some twisting and bending focus on waist hem seem to hold OK

Increase resolution and smoothing still seems OK

Try with Victoria 9 FBM and some bend and twist.  Waist hem seem preserve thickness.

nonesuch00 said:

billyben_0077a25354 said:

nonesuch00 said:

billyben_0077a25354 said:

benniewoodell said:

Oso3D said:

Like, the Michael 9 promos don't show feminine versions of Michael 9... that's not the product.

But there's two promos showing feminine versions of Michael 9 though. 

 I know, but when I experamented with a female version of M9, ya lost me with the hair on the chest of the female chest skin.  Hairy legs maybe but hairy chest and a 5 oclock shadow, not so much

Really? I don't see that on those promos.

Uh, you can't do a toplrss promo.  Pull up a G9 female shape in daz and put the Michael 9 SKIN with the female chest skin and there is hair on that chest.  Not much b ut it still appears to be there.

I will have to wait a few weeks when I buy it. I guess I'll write a ticket too since that flies in the face of what the promo renders claim.

And BillyBen is correct. There is hair stubble on the M9 skin materials but the promos don't show it.

I bought the Michael 9 base product yesterday because of the $10 off discount; a couple weeks early for a $10 discount. Yes!

And I was disappointed that the one M9 texture issued had face stubble, chest stubble, and probably body stubble elsewhere. I understand that a male has those things but that makes the skin textures male only and deep brunette only. Not that that's bad, but that makes them more limited in use in the same way others, correctly, say freckles on a skin material sets make them more limited in use, which of course it does. I guess cloning brushes are used from real skin photographs to make these skin material sets. I like more generic flexibility to save money but of course erasing all those details out of the skin materials will make them look cartoonish which more customers will complain about, except those doing cartoons. It's always something, but I am satisfied. Anyway, that is out of my system now that I have Victoria 9 & Michael 9. They are both very good.

Update: 12 May 2023

Released today: Legacy UVs for Genesis 9: Classic Edition - Victoria 4
https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-classic-edition--victoria-4

Update: 26 January 2023

Released today: Legacy UVs for Genesis 9: Genesis 3,8 and 8.1 Male
https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-genesis-3-8-and-81-male

Update: 25 November 2022

Released today: Legacy UVs for Genesis 9: Genesis 3,8 and 8.1 Female
https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-genesis-3-8-and-81-female

PDF User Guide:
http://docs.daz3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/public/read_me/index/87928/87928_legacyuvsforgenesis9userguide.pdf

Original Post: 22 November 2022

Legacy UVs for Genesis 9: Genesis 3,8 and 8.1 Female will be released shortly.

This will work in the same way as previous "Legacy UVs" releases for previous generations.  The geografts with their own UVs will carry the textures that the main mesh cannot due to the incompatible inter-generational mappings.  A script will load the geografts, create new Surface Selection sets so that the old surface names can be recognised by the new mesh, and select Genesis 9 and the geografts so that they are ready to take the legacy textures.  Then the "Apply UVs" icon will set the appropriate UVs.

Now it looks like the majority of material presets for Genesis 3, 8 and 8.1 are Hierarchical Material presets, which means that they will not work on Genesis 9, so you will have to re-save these as ordinary Material presets before applying them to Genesis 9.  Of course, once the MATs are on Genesis 9 you can save a new Hierarchical preset for Genesis 9 for extra convenience, if you wish.

I have included two separate UVs for the Anatomical Elements, one which carries the Torso/Body textures, and one which carries Anatomical Elements textures for characters which have them.  The script will, by default, apply the Torso/Body UVs.  If you want to use the AE UVs you will have to apply these separately and then set the UVs manually.

I should add that the Genesis 3 UVs included are for the "Base Female", not for the Daz Original 7-series characters, which have their own UVs.  The vast majority of ordinary Genesis 3 characters use the Base Female UVs, but if you want to use the 7-series textures on Genesis 9 you can use the Map Transfer facility to convert them to Base Female.

The PDF includes further detailed information for further eventualities.

IceDragonArt said:

Knittingmommy said:

Playing around with a couple of new things. Used Victoria 9's skin, but the eyes textures are from Natural Eyes 9 for Genesis 9 which I'm in love with. Seriously good textures. The figure is one I created using Face Morphs Kit for Genesis 9. I had a lot of fun with that. I started with Victoria 9 and dialed her back to 75% and added in a little bit of VYK Sydney for Genesis 9 at 15% and then adjusted the nose, cheeks, mouth, and brow until I got something I liked.

LOVE this!

Thanks. I had fun with her. I have fun with each new morph kit I get though. I think it satisfies the part of me that loves puzzles while being creative at the same time.

Knittingmommy said:

Playing around with a couple of new things. Used Victoria 9's skin, but the eyes textures are from Natural Eyes 9 for Genesis 9 which I'm in love with. Seriously good textures. The figure is one I created using Face Morphs Kit for Genesis 9. I had a lot of fun with that. I started with Victoria 9 and dialed her back to 75% and added in a little bit of VYK Sydney for Genesis 9 at 15% and then adjusted the nose, cheeks, mouth, and brow until I got something I liked.

LOVE this!

Kerya said:

It's not a search result, but the categorizing:

https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-people

gives me

https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-lighter-than-air-dress-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/mso-peppa-hd-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-cb-saffron-dress-set-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/primitive-fantasy-warrior-outfit-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fair-maiden-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

https://www.daz3d.com/kuj-dforce-medieval-dress-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-style-dforce-outfit-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/cb-arceli-hd-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-sydney-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-makeup

https://www.daz3d.com/10-in-1-casual-wardrobe-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/texture-expansion-for-10-in-1-casual-wardrobe-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/summer-bikini-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/summertide-swimwear-outfit-for-genesis-9

 

 

Oh, no!  I spoke too soon.  The DForce add-on for the hem is falling off if the figure is morphed away from the base shape.  

Will have to double check my work flow against the videos some more.  Hmmm.

Here is an example with G9 in Victoria 9 shape and some leg movement.  I have visibility on for the hem add-on so hpefully you can see it.

The thread here is pretty long but I'm having serious bugs with 4.21.1.13 Public Beta:

1) I load Victoria 9 HD & Genesis 9. 

2) I apply various eye colors to both eyes and they only apply to the Victoria 9 HD eye (ie. the 1st eyes loaded named Genesis 9 Eyes and not the Genesis 9 Eyes (2)

3) I apply color to the hairs but somehow, eventually the viewport will draw pitch black hair no matter what color the hair is actually is changed to. I also lost the ability to change color.

4) I apply poses from the Genesis Starter Essentials and only the base character mesh moves and not the mouth, eyes, tears, and so on.

5) Exiting, starting, and reopening the scene restored functionality for a bit but the more I applied material presets the more problems start showing up again.

That Nature's Wonder_Water Lily Garden has the enormous pads with the high sides, Victoria Amazonia and Victoria Cruziana. Check the second promo

billyben_0077a25354 said:

I will be returning this product.  I have used geografts before and the vendors always made them easy to copy the materials over to the Geograft by using scripts and having a copy materials button in the product.  This having to apply the skin mat 3 times is for the birds.  Also it will only work with single mat skins.  Any skin that includes the genitials mat does not work (I just tested every character I have).  All I have been able to get the geograft to work with are the single skins and chest skins for Victoria and Michael and the 8 base skins.  None of the PA model skins seem to work at all (at lease the models I have)   Also the morphs provided are very basic.  I would have liked to see a product that at least has the same nubmer of morphs as the nipple and neval morphs for the G3/8/8.1 generations.  It is amazing that this product got out of QC.  It is not up to DAZ Studio's usual standards.

I've used them on Nao, a PA character, and they worked fine with her genital mats. I might be misunderstanding what you mean by single skins. 

The biggest issue I've had with these is that they distort pretty badly when using the Breast Fullness Lower morph. They're not the most complete solution, but they're around the same level of detail as the official morphs if you need to keep your characters at low subdivision. This character is using them at subdivision level 1 and the geografts at 4. 

My steps for using them are load the geografts on the character > apply the PBR (or Iray Uber) shader to the geografts > copy the character's body texture > paste the body texture onto both geografts. 

I will be returning this product.  I have used geografts before and the vendors always made them easy to copy the materials over to the Geograft by using scripts and having a copy materials button in the product.  This having to apply the skin mat 3 times is for the birds.  Also it will only work with single mat skins.  Any skin that includes the genitials mat does not work (I just tested every character I have).  All I have been able to get the geograft to work with are the single skins and chest skins for Victoria and Michael and the 8 base skins.  None of the PA model skins seem to work at all (at lease the models I have)   Also the morphs provided are very basic.  I would have liked to see a product that at least has the same nubmer of morphs as the nipple and neval morphs for the G3/8/8.1 generations.  It is amazing that this product got out of QC.  It is not up to DAZ Studio's usual standards.

The Torpedo Bra was fashioned to work with V9, it also works with G9 Female.

One selects the figure and dials in the morph. These types of morphs only work on the clothing.

Uploaded to Renderosity

The Torpedo Bra goes by several names including Bullet Bra.

Used in promo:
Lights, one of the Easy Portrait presets plus 1 sphere mesh light.
Fair Maiden Under Dress.
Voss Hair G9
Genesis 9's Victoria 9

Product includes ONLY the projections morphs for the Torpedo Bra. Just merge like folders together then open D/S and enjoy :-)