Highland said:

barbult said:

Vellus Horizon Shader System for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female and People/Genesis 8 Female/Anatomy/Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair are two entirely different products.

Read this forum thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/459006/released-vellus-horizon-shader-system-user-guide-in-comments/p1

Thanks Barbult!  Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair came bundled with Victoria 8.1. When I went looking for a product page and instructions, it said Oops! Page Not Found. I stupidly stumbled upon this thread not even realizing it was a separate product. Small wonder the instructions were not helping.

Given all that, do you know where I would look for instructions for Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair?  In DIM the Information link also says Oops! Page not Found.  On the order page it says this:

This is meant to be distributed with every pro bundle like the anatomical elements are.

Vellus hair page does not go live

 

To be able to see the hairs in texture shaded preview Select the Abdominal Vellus hair goto Parameters/General/Simulation  turn on Preview PR Hairs.  I get what you do if im in texture shaded or iray preview but when I render it looks right.

Ok after some further testing I see that the if G8.1F is not selected when you load the hair it displayed like you have it.  Make sure it says Geneis 8.1 Female in the Fit To option under General/Misc.

I do agree with Babult that this Vellus Horizon Shader looks better (softer) to me than what was released with G8.1

FSMCDesigns said:

von Hobo said:

Wonderland said:

Here https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

Thank you so much!

The search feature of the store displayed no results when I tried using "naoko hair" and "mermaid hair". Strange.

Don't feel bad, it did the same for me when i searched with the same keywords, very odd.

OK, So I'm not going crazy. Thanks  

von Hobo said:

Wonderland said:

Here https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

Thank you so much!

The search feature of the store displayed no results when I tried using "naoko hair" and "mermaid hair". Strange.

Don't feel bad, it did the same for me when i searched with the same keywords, very odd.

Wonderland said:

Here https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

Thank you so much!

The search feature of the store displayed no results when I tried using "naoko hair" and "mermaid hair". Strange.

Here https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-props-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

These hair adornments are for the Naoka Hair but I could not locate the hair in the DAZ Shop.

I was hoping to purchase the Hair which they are design for, however it does state that they can be used with any hair.

Does anyone know the link to Naoka Hair?

SolitarySandpiper said:

this is what i'm talking about... 

Defend this if you like... but i think we should expect to see a bit more refinement, not just the facility to tone it down globally.

I guess it would depend on what you really dislike about the image or the character in general.  While Victoria and Michael are more realistic in their design, Josie is a bit more stylized then realistic.  Thorne characters, male and female both, have always been a stylized design.

A few things to consider with that image:

1.  The JPEG compression on that image is not that great.  I am not sure how the system here is set up, but I have noticed that even my own product promos are not the same quality as they were when I submitted them.

2.  I know that Josie loads with the 8k detail normal maps applied.  However, It is possible that promo artist forgot a key step before rendering and that would be to make sure their Iray advanced setting for image compression is set to 8192 or above to ensure the 8k maps are not compressed by Iray when they are rendered.  I keep making this mistake as my default for image comression is 4096, a 4k map, because up until now, we haven't had 8k maps with characters.

3.  If the Pixel Filter is set to a soft setting, then that too will affect the appearnce of the details.  I find that the Pixel Filter "Triangle" gives crisper images then "Gaussian".  I often use a radius value of 0.5 - 0.8

4.  And then there is the lighting, perhaps different lighting would have helped show the details better.

A couple questions about templates:

1. Why are there no breast adjustment morphs? There are morphs for many other body areas.
2. Who is Nikolai9? He looks kind of chubby according to the morph. Why would he have morphs in the bodysuit template, but released characters like Michael and Victoria do not? Do they not need them, but he does because of his size?

apprentice said:

Rank: Beginner
Title: The Interrogation

Detective Wagner has some pressing questions he needs to ask the new widow regarding the circumstances of her husband's death.
But is he in control of the interrogation or falling for her charms? Who is here cat and who is mouse?

Major items:

https://www.daz3d.com/fg-detective-room
https://www.daz3d.com/stella-hd-with-expression-for-genesis-9
https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-le-magnifique-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

Supporting items:
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-makeup
https://www.daz3d.com/wood-veneer--iray-shaders

Question:

I can't post the image directly into the comment like Daedalus-7 and AgitatedRiot did. "The comment is n characters too long". How is this done?

Thx for your help.

Copy the link to the image you have at the bottom of your post. Click the gear edit top right of your post. Use the image button. At the top, Paste the link, then size to 800

Rank: Beginner
Title: The Interrogation

Detective Wagner has some pressing questions he needs to ask the new widow regarding the circumstances of her husband's death.
But is he in control of the interrogation or falling for her charms? Who is here cat and who is mouse?

Major items:

https://www.daz3d.com/fg-detective-room
https://www.daz3d.com/stella-hd-with-expression-for-genesis-9
https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-le-magnifique-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

Supporting items:
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-makeup
https://www.daz3d.com/wood-veneer--iray-shaders

Question:

I can't post the image directly into the comment like Daedalus-7 and AgitatedRiot did. "The comment is n characters too long". How is this done?

Thx for your help.

I can understand your view of G9's 'doughy' look, as that was my first reaction as well. I think I called them 'Gumby'.

I love Victoria 9 and Michael 9, and picked up both Mega bundles because of their excellent content, and got the Pixie 9 bundle yesterday. But after going through my 20,000+ products to pick which to load onto my MacBookPro M1, and try to keep it simple, I found what I like to use and not use. And many of the items I installed go back to David 3,  M4/V4, G1, G2, G3, and of course, G8/G8.1.

In between, I have pulled up the Base 9 figures and played with them as more morph packs, and then the few characters I bought from by PAs, that gave me a little more confidence in the character. As each release comes from my favorite PAs, it will give me the options I look for. And I am finding many of the non-G9 clothing and hairs I put on them work quite well, with some reservations (shoes and I understand long hair).

As far as clothes go for your current characters, that is a reasonable concern. Women especially change styles often, but I am finding men do as well, especially in pant shapes. I have been studying Marvelous Designer and today broke through problem I had. I want to be able to bring my ideas to life, if set in the past or today or the future for guys or gals. That is an option for you. There are other programs I understand that can do it, Blender is one I think? And shaders which keep up to new styles in colors, can keep basic clothing fresh.

But the Genesis 9 Essentials has everything you need to play with the characters for free. No extra expense. 

Hylas said:

RayDAnt said:

To my knowledge, the only DAZ original character ever released to be publicly admitted to being based on a real person irl was Reby Sky back in the V4/Genesis days.

Catty 8.1 From their promo text: "Based on a real individual, Cat Taylor (she/they), [...]"

There are other core characters that seem very obviously based on real people, but DAZ doesn't openly say that, likely for legal reasons.

V8, Gia 8, and Freja 8 don't remind me of real people in a very obvious way, though.

There was also the Anne Marie Goddard Digitial Clone for Victoria 3, way back.

RayDAnt said:

Ryder said:

So guys who is this characters based on irl?

Gia 8 | Daz 3D

Freja 8 | Daz 3D

Victoria 8 | Daz 3D

They beautiful models so i'd like to know if they really based on irl people. Thanks.

To my knowledge, the only DAZ original character ever released to be publicly admitted to being based on a real person irl was Reby Sky back in the V4/Genesis days. Beyond that it's all just opinions on the internet who resembles whom. With that said, I have Gia 8 down as Rebecca Romjin.

That's cool thanks. Gia 8 indeed kinda reminiscent of Rebecca Romijin somehow.

Ryder said:

So guys who is this characters based on irl?

Gia 8 | Daz 3D

Freja 8 | Daz 3D

Victoria 8 | Daz 3D

They beautiful models so i'd like to know if they really based on irl people. Thanks.

To my knowledge, the only DAZ original character ever released to be publicly admitted to being based on a real person irl was Reby Sky back in the V4/Genesis days. Beyond that it's all just opinions on the internet who resembles whom. With that said, I have Gia 8 down as Rebecca Romjin.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

riuken1 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

of course I see this after buying Bone Minion generation 4 to G9 

but then again most stuff I want to convert is indeed V4 and M4 anyway and give me skanky feet and hands on genesis 1+ and need to be saved as duf for this

still thanks  I will look into it for everything else since I hate returning stuff  

You can try use Richard converter for the Michael and Victoria to G8F/M, and them conver G9.

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86848/m4h4f4-pose-transfer-to-g8m

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86820/v4a4-to-g8f-pose-transfer

 

 

I already felt bad spending so thanks for making me feel worse  

Here is my sincere unsolicited advice: Return what you don't need. There is no shame in that. It is one of the advertised features of shopping at the Daz store. Ask for store credit. The money will just go back to Daz again that way anyway. If you feel bad for the PA for returning their product, buy something else from the PA at a later time. There are several free pose converters that work remarkably well. Save your money for something that there is not a free version of.

riuken1 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

of course I see this after buying Bone Minion generation 4 to G9 

but then again most stuff I want to convert is indeed V4 and M4 anyway and give me skanky feet and hands on genesis 1+ and need to be saved as duf for this

still thanks  I will look into it for everything else since I hate returning stuff  

You can try use Richard converter for the Michael and Victoria to G8F/M, and them conver G9.

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86848/m4h4f4-pose-transfer-to-g8m

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86820/v4a4-to-g8f-pose-transfer

 

 

I already felt bad spending so thanks for making me feel worse  

WendyLuvsCatz said:

of course I see this after buying Bone Minion generation 4 to G9 

but then again most stuff I want to convert is indeed V4 and M4 anyway and give me skanky feet and hands on genesis 1+ and need to be saved as duf for this

still thanks  I will look into it for everything else since I hate returning stuff  

You can try use Richard converter for the Michael and Victoria to G8F/M, and them conver G9.

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86848/m4h4f4-pose-transfer-to-g8m

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86820/v4a4-to-g8f-pose-transfer

The Victoria 8.1 University Bundle (https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1-university-bundle) came with the outstanding asset "Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair".

Are we going to see a comparable asset coming for Genesis 9? Of all the vellus and body hair products I've investigated, the Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair has become a prefered and favorite product.

So guys who is this characters based on irl?

Gia 8 | Daz 3D

Freja 8 | Daz 3D

Victoria 8 | Daz 3D

They beautiful models so i'd like to know if they really based on irl people. Thanks.

ms_art said:

xyer0 said:

Moogoo said:

I might be reading the descriptions wrong but when looking at G9 females released on the material side of things very few seem to be using all the G9 features that say vicky9 uses, almost as if the texures have no advantage over what could be done in G8. 

Am I wrong or is this what other people are seeing??

I think you're right, and I'm seeing it too. MallenLane said that the Genesis 9 8k detail normals are available for any Genesis 9. So, either those 8k maps are not being loaded on the rest of the G9 characters, or Victoria 9 & Michael 9 have skin far superior in realism to the rest.

Victoria 9's freckles only skin submarined it as a go-to for me. 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're both saying, but PAs (from what I've read) are not obligated to provide 8k maps for the figures that they produce. You can use the G9 detail map for any G9 figure that doesn't come with one by clicking 'Detail Enable' on in the Surfaces tab and adding the map in the 'Detail Normal Map' section.