Catherine3678ab said:

wildbillnash said:

Hi, I've been playing around with Face Transfer a lot and I've noticed a problem with some of the results. The nose, lips, cheeks, and chins don't come out right. They get pushed in some. The image below shows a regular G8 figure on the left and the results of a Face Transfer on the right. They look alright when you look at it from the front but when you turn the figure around you see the face got pushed in some. Any ideas what's going on here?

Displayed is the reason why the more expensive face modeling plugins can make use of profile images ;-)

This product was made to address the issues in Face Transfer: https://www.daz3d.com/face-transfer-shapes-for-genesis-8

Okay, I liked what you linked to and bought the add-on. But like most things you buy on DS, it doesn't come with instructions (at least none that is easy to find). Any idea on how it works?

Yes, as a controller that will set the underlying morphs. You don't want to literally bake all the morphs to one as you will lose all the links that make them work with poses and other morphs.

1. Set your desired shape up, with everything else zeroed
2. Right-click in the parameters pane and enable Edit Mode, if it isn't
3. Right-click in the group you want to place your slider in and select Add New Property
4. Fill in the dialogue with the name you want, set limitsd as desired, etc. and click Accept
5. Set the new slider to 100%
6. Right-click on the new slider>ERC Freeze
7. In the dialogue check that the Sub components look right - if something is in there that shouldn't be deselect it - click Accept
8. Check that your new morph works correctly
9. If it does, save - if you want it for more than one scene set its value to 0, then use File>Save As>Support Assets>Morph Asset to save (the Author and product entries in the dialogue will be folder names in the /data/figure/morphs folder if you want to back the files up separately)

Is it possible to combine multiple morphs and save it as one morph

What do you mean? That the joint adjustments are applying even when the morph isn't applied?

FSMCDesigns said:

Interesting thread, seeing everyones different experiences with content. I have 162 GF8 characters, in 2 runtimes, on normal HDDs, not SSDs and she loads in just over a minute (1.09). The log file only has 31 of these types or errors

WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/

with half pointing to DAZ core characters. So what does that mean, is it affecting the load time and can it be fixed other than uninstalling?

Those are Missing Target errors. Most of the time they add less than a second each to the load times.

Sometimes these are related to errors in the product; a typographical error or inconsistent naming of morphs. A morph can't find its dial or vice versa. In this case there may be one or more morphs that are not functioning or not functioning as intended.

Sometimes they are intentional as they are morphs from one product that are meant to be added to an assortment of other products, some that you might not own.

It's really a guessing game by looking at the wording of the error(s) in the log. The best way to narrow them down is by temporarily uninstalling multiple product morphs and checking your log. For example, things like Growing Up that are meant to work with multiple products and should fall into the secondary class of MT errors I mentioned above. Then you can narrow down which products have the first type of errors.

The Duplicate Formula errors are the ones that cause the most problems and drag.

rhye_7b205b2b74 said:

been trying to use the rotation and the morph editor to this have unistalled and reinstalled 3 times and still no rotation wheels, it just ain't there ?

any chance the makers can add any ideas to why?

Perhaps the plugin isn't registered with its own serial?

I was watching a video about saving a character morph because mine stopped showing up. Now after I adjusted rigging to shape. the morph got saved with the bones selected. Now every time I load Genesis 8 male it loads with the bones selected and all if I select him and add a different morph it loads with the bones select and I can't deselect it when I do the morphs go to zero. How can I fix this please this is really bad.

Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If it's all about saving money, then yes, you can create all kinds of new characters yourself with this morph set and never have to buy any addon characters. You should also invest in the base morph sets as well since some character sets require them. traditionally there are two ways a PA will create a character for the store. one is they use existing morphs like these and/or the base morphs to create the shape and the other is to take the mesh into a modeling app and make their own morphs.

I wouldn't say this is a staple set to have since it is one of many morph sets. If anything, these should be considered the staple ones to have

https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-female-head-morphs

https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-male-head-morphs

The Elven Mystery

The Elven Princess surprised everyone: her personality has suddenly changed. The frail girl who needed protection and care has turned into a brave woman. Even the King, her father, is proud of her. Everyone is happy but... Why, in the elven prisons, is there a girl who looks like her?

- DOA 6 Marie Rose - Head and Body Morphs for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/DOA-6-Marie-Rose-Head-and-Body-Morphs-for-G8F-825236730
- Anime Style Elf Ears Morph for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/Anime-Style-Elf-Ears-Morph-for-G8F-841687931
- Chameleon ROse2 for Genesis 8 Female by zoro_d (material)
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85859/chameleon-rose2-for-genesis-8-female
- OnFleek for Genesis 3 & 8 Female(s)
http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/onfleek-for-genesis-3-8-female-s.html
- Candy Braids Hair for Genesis 8 Female(s) by zoro_d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/88062/candy-braids-hair-for-genesis-8-female-s-

- DForce Flirty for G8 Female by Moonlight001
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84279/dforce-flirty-for-g8-female
- Elven Crown by squarepeg3d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/75636/prop-elven-crown
- Iray Jewelry Shaders
https://sharecg.com/v/95893/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Iray-Jewelry-Shaders
- Question Mark Necklace
https://sharecg.com/v/94922/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Question-Mark-Necklace
- Pavé Bangle for G8F/G8.1F
https://sharecg.com/v/97614/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Pavé-Bangle-for-G8F-G8.1F

- Slave Tunic G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/NEW-IMPROVED-FREEBIE-Slave-Tunic-793790264
- Dirty Skin Textures G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/UPDATE-FREEBIE-Dirty-Skin-Textures-G3F-AND-G8F-801889979
- Rough Textures for G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/FREEBIE-Rough-Textures-for-G3F-and-G8F-804353596
- Easy Tears G8F
https://www.sharecg.com/v/96064/
- Tape Gags
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/Tape-Gags-FREEBIE-TO-DOWNLOAD-843036469

- G8F Free Pose 045 by richardandtracy
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86083/g8f-free-pose-045
- Pose (Standing) 39 by Kordouane
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79417/pose-standing-39

- HDRI: Cave Wall
https://hdrihaven.com/hdri/?c=outdoor&h=cave_wall

Dhivael said:

The Elven Mystery

The Elven Princess surprised everyone: her personality has suddenly changed. The frail girl who needed protection and care has turned into a brave woman. Even the King, her father, is proud of her. Everyone is happy but... Why, in the elven prisons, is there a girl who looks like her?

- DOA 6 Marie Rose - Head and Body Morphs for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/DOA-6-Marie-Rose-Head-and-Body-Morphs-for-G8F-825236730
- Anime Style Elf Ears Morph for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/Anime-Style-Elf-Ears-Morph-for-G8F-841687931
- Chameleon ROse2 for Genesis 8 Female by zoro_d (material)
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85859/chameleon-rose2-for-genesis-8-female
- OnFleek for Genesis 3 & 8 Female(s)
http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/onfleek-for-genesis-3-8-female-s.html
- Candy Braids Hair for Genesis 8 Female(s) by zoro_d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/88062/candy-braids-hair-for-genesis-8-female-s-

- DForce Flirty for G8 Female by Moonlight001
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84279/dforce-flirty-for-g8-female
- Elven Crown by squarepeg3d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/75636/prop-elven-crown
- Iray Jewelry Shaders
https://sharecg.com/v/95893/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Iray-Jewelry-Shaders
- Question Mark Necklace
https://sharecg.com/v/94922/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Question-Mark-Necklace
- Pavé Bangle for G8F/G8.1F
https://sharecg.com/v/97614/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Pavé-Bangle-for-G8F-G8.1F

- Slave Tunic G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/NEW-IMPROVED-FREEBIE-Slave-Tunic-793790264
- Dirty Skin Textures G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/UPDATE-FREEBIE-Dirty-Skin-Textures-G3F-AND-G8F-801889979
- Rough Textures for G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/FREEBIE-Rough-Textures-for-G3F-and-G8F-804353596
- Easy Tears G8F
https://www.sharecg.com/v/96064/
- Tape Gags
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/Tape-Gags-FREEBIE-TO-DOWNLOAD-843036469

- G8F Free Pose 045 by richardandtracy
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86083/g8f-free-pose-045
- Pose (Standing) 39 by Kordouane
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79417/pose-standing-39

- HDRI: Cave Wall
https://hdrihaven.com/hdri/?c=outdoor&h=cave_wall

All The Links Check Out Plz Move To Entries Thread

The Elven Mystery

The Elven Princess surprised everyone: her personality has suddenly changed. The frail girl who needed protection and care has turned into a brave woman. Even the King, her father, is proud of her. Everyone is happy but... Why, in the elven prisons, is there a girl who looks like her?

- DOA 6 Marie Rose - Head and Body Morphs for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/DOA-6-Marie-Rose-Head-and-Body-Morphs-for-G8F-825236730
- Anime Style Elf Ears Morph for G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/tritiumcg/art/Anime-Style-Elf-Ears-Morph-for-G8F-841687931
- Chameleon ROse2 for Genesis 8 Female by zoro_d (material)
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85859/chameleon-rose2-for-genesis-8-female
- OnFleek for Genesis 3 & 8 Female(s)
http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/onfleek-for-genesis-3-8-female-s.html
- Candy Braids Hair for Genesis 8 Female(s) by zoro_d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/88062/candy-braids-hair-for-genesis-8-female-s-

- DForce Flirty for G8 Female by Moonlight001
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84279/dforce-flirty-for-g8-female
- Elven Crown by squarepeg3d
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/75636/prop-elven-crown
- Iray Jewelry Shaders
https://sharecg.com/v/95893/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Iray-Jewelry-Shaders
- Question Mark Necklace
https://sharecg.com/v/94922/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Question-Mark-Necklace
- Pavé Bangle for G8F/G8.1F
https://sharecg.com/v/97614/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Pavé-Bangle-for-G8F-G8.1F

- Slave Tunic G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/NEW-IMPROVED-FREEBIE-Slave-Tunic-793790264
- Dirty Skin Textures G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/UPDATE-FREEBIE-Dirty-Skin-Textures-G3F-AND-G8F-801889979
- Rough Textures for G3F and G8F
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/FREEBIE-Rough-Textures-for-G3F-and-G8F-804353596
- Easy Tears G8F
https://www.sharecg.com/v/96064/
- Tape Gags
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/Tape-Gags-FREEBIE-TO-DOWNLOAD-843036469

- G8F Free Pose 045 by richardandtracy
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/86083/g8f-free-pose-045
- Pose (Standing) 39 by Kordouane
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79417/pose-standing-39

- HDRI: Cave Wall
https://hdrihaven.com/hdri/?c=outdoor&h=cave_wall

been trying to use the rotation and the morph editor to this have unistalled and reinstalled 3 times and still no rotation wheels, it just ain't there ?

any chance the makers can add any ideas to why?

Haiya, I'm new to Daz, and I love it so far but I just had a product question about te head and face morph, for those of you have have it. Especially with the bundle moreso than the individual gender packs this seems like a staple product, no? But, I was wondering how in depth you can go with this addon, and would this addon be the cheaper route than buying individual character models?

I have between 650 and 750 character / morph packages for G8F installed. My load times come directly from the error log.

With 6 Duplicate Formula errors and a handful of Missing Target errors; 4 minutes 48 seconds load time with two video cards. With one video card the load time was identical.

After uninstalling the products with errors; 2 minutes 49 seconds load time with no Duplicate Formulas and two video cards.

On one video card; 3 minutes 25 seconds load time with no Duplicate Formulas.

A couple of things I discovered:

Having a better video card seems to have a big impact on load times. I am not sure what constitutes "better" (clock speed vs. RAM, etc.) I am using an internal RTX 2080 Super and an external RTX 2070 Super. With both cards active I have consistently seen load times of about a half minute to a minute faster. Except for when errors are present; the errors appear to negate any benefit.

To remove variables I used the error log to get consistent load times, instead of timing it myself. The error log takes into consideration the user interaction time if there are error messages. (In other words, the time it takes to click the "Ok" error message is included in the load time.) In these cases, I made sure to click as quick as possible.

Thank you for that information Richard Haseltine. It really was frustrating me because I found the option once, then I couldn't find it again. You might think it's just a simple thing, but for me, a guy trying something new, to possibly do some fun things with face transfer, and pictures of friends faces and stuff, it's a creative and literal lifesaver...

Philemo_Carrara said:

Beta version of the HD Morph plugin is now available for testing in the CTS projet file repository. At this stage, it's only for Windows. I plan to work on the OSX version next week.

Here is a short tutorial on how to import Hd details from Studio into Carrara:

1. Load your figure in Studio
2. In the parameter tab, set the subdivision level to a value compatible with the hd setting (AFAIK 2 is the most common).
   
3. Export figure in obj format with Carrara preset.
   
4. In Carrara, import the obj. Make sure to untick "AutoPosition" and tick "Disable auto scaling" and set "obj unit equal to" 1
   
5. load the figure in Carrara. If it's a conforming cloth, DO NOT conform it yet.
   
6. On the actor level of the figure, make sure BOTH modeling and rendering levels are set to the same value set in step 2
   
7. Still on the actor object, go to the "modifier" tab and choose "HD Morph"
   
8. Click on "choose target"
   
9. in the window that appears, choose your imported object
   
10. You're done, HD morphs are added
    
11. You can now delete the imported obj mesh, as it's not needed anymore.

Tomorrow, I'll try to setup another tutorial on how to create your very own hd morph straight in Carrara.

 

 

thank you so much for the screen shots!! 

Jason Galterio said:

After you load G8F or G8M, open your Error Log and check the very end of the log for anything that says "Duplicate Formula" or "Missing Target" errors.

 

 ​Yeh, one wonders if character morph naming conflicts has something to do with this, particularly with characters from non-Daz sites.

Richard Haseltine said:

vozolgant said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Do the two versions have the same content directory set ups, and use the same database? Differences there might have an effect on load, and possiby on save, times. Also, if there are more directories connected to the Public Build with more morphs in them then the clean up on shut down would take longer. It's even possible that additional properties might have enough effect on memory load to account for the failure of Iray in some scenes with heavy (play range) dForce simulations.

Yes. I used two scripts that you linked to someone else in another post.  Copy_UI_From_Channel & Save_Mapped_Paths .. So both DAZ & DAZ Beta are identifcal in setup. 

I'm hoping they can release a hotfix for 4.15.0.2 that fixes the Zbrush & GOZ issue with G8.1 in the mean time. 4.15.0.14 is no where near ready for release given its massive crashing and sluggishness, but I'm sure it'll eventually be ready.  

You could just export as OBJ and import the OBJ as a new tool in ZBrush, then export out from ZBrush at 0 divisions and import into DS using Morph Loader Pro with Reverse Deformations (which is pretty much what GoZ is doing, in effect).

That takes way too long unfortunately.  I think there is a solution here though. I need to figure out a way to rapidly and temporarily strip G8.1F of all attachments, because without attachments, G8.1F gets sent to Zbrush correctly via GoZ in 4.15.0.2, but if there are attachments present, then G8.1F does not get sent to Zbrush, only its attachments(fittings) are sent.

I wonder if there's a way to group all of G8.1F's attachments, like clothing hair, eyelashes, etc, then unfit, unparent rapidly.  Send G8.1F to Zbrush via Goz, then back in DAZ, rapidly reattach and reparent, refit all the attachments again?

EDIT: Use ---> Edit ---> Figure ---> Fit To ... That will allow you to fit and unfit multiple items at once. This quickly allows you to unfit everything, send G8.1F to Zbrush, make the morph, GOZ it back, then refit everthing simaltaneously when done.

Is it possible to get this head: https://www.daz3d.com/leony-hd-for-victoria-8, on G8.1F? Dialing the head morph is not enough, I think RY uses some custom eyes or some kind of custom morph. Is there a way to get all that working on G8.1F?

vozolgant said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Do the two versions have the same content directory set ups, and use the same database? Differences there might have an effect on load, and possiby on save, times. Also, if there are more directories connected to the Public Build with more morphs in them then the clean up on shut down would take longer. It's even possible that additional properties might have enough effect on memory load to account for the failure of Iray in some scenes with heavy (play range) dForce simulations.

Yes. I used two scripts that you linked to someone else in another post.  Copy_UI_From_Channel & Save_Mapped_Paths .. So both DAZ & DAZ Beta are identifcal in setup. 

I'm hoping they can release a hotfix for 4.15.0.2 that fixes the Zbrush & GOZ issue with G8.1 in the mean time. 4.15.0.14 is no where near ready for release given its massive crashing and sluggishness, but I'm sure it'll eventually be ready.  

You could just export as OBJ and import the OBJ as a new tool in ZBrush, then export out from ZBrush at 0 divisions and import into DS using Morph Loader Pro with Reverse Deformations (which is pretty much what GoZ is doing, in effect).