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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164

    ...ahh but Howie's sets don't work in Daz so I can only set up the characters.

    Importing them as .objs would remove the rigging to pose them to stand properly on uneven ground without "floating" or "sinking in".

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    edited December 2015

     

    kyoto kid said:

    ...ahh but Howie's sets don't work in Daz so I can only set up the characters.

    Right... only the Genesis stuff that you want to bring into Carrara.

     

    kyoto kid said:

    Importing them as .objs would remove the rigging to pose them to stand properly on uneven ground without "floating" or "sinking in".

    No... export(DS)/import(Carrara) them as DUF. That way you keep the rigging, morph functionality, etc.,

    Actually though, I say Import/Export, but what I really mean is this:

    While you're in DAZ Studio and have a character all set up that you want to use in Carrara, just save the scene to your DAZ Studio library (someplace you know how to find in the library that you can access via the DAZ Studio and Carrara library browsers).

    This way all you need to do is to go to your Carrara scene, open it up, and then find your saved character in the DS library in the Content tab (Carrara) and load it into the scene. You may do this with as many characters as you like. 

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164

    ...thanks.  I'll give that a whirl.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    kyoto kid said:

    ...thanks.  I'll give that a whirl.

    May the Force be with You! :)

    You'll see... it rocks.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966

    It's been quite some time since I've seen this one. What a cool Carrara movie!

    The Subway Shining

    by Dave Herring

  • bighbigh Posts: 7,558

    sure is a great Carrara Video !

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164

    ...very Twlight Zone-ish.  Well done indeed.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    edited January 2016

    Yeah, I love that video! Great story!

    Here is a temporary method for searching the forums:

    Click me

     

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited May 2016

    Dart, yes that is temporary... the problem, for me, is that the link shows anywhere Carrara is mentioned. Ok if that is what you want. Is there a way to narrow down the search? Is the search function documented in detail anywhere? Looking for Carrara Discussions Examples:

    • opened by a specific member.
    • by Carrara Model Room, vertex, spline, any specific menu options and what they do etc.
    • about a specific subject and/or not look in the body of a the discussion

    Carrara Questions... I have a lot... most are simple. Some deal with menu options anywhere or about specific features... lately most are strickly Vertex modeling room related. Where is the best place to ask these? Here perhaps?

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  • TerritanTerritan Posts: 75
    wgdjohn said:

    Dart, yes that is temporary... the problem, for me, is that the link shows anywhere Carrara is mentioned. Ok if that is what you want. Is there a way to narrow down the search? Is the search function documented in detail anywhere? Looking for Carrara Discussions Examples:

    • opened by a specific member.
    • by Carrara Model Room, vertex, spline, any specific menu options and what they do etc.
    • about a specific subject and/or not look in the body of a the discussion

    He's right. Most forum software will include a way to search for posts from specific members or narrow a search down to just headers or message body, but not this one. This is the Daz Studio of forum search.

     

    wgdjohn, if the page is old enough, Google may have sniffed it out already. Use several keywords like username and specific terminology, and add a site:daz3d.com on the end of it, to tell Google to return results just on this site. That might help turn up the result you want.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 9,410

    Search for posts of a specific member: click on the blue username like Territan, click on the gear to the right of message, choose "View users threads" or "View users posts"

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited May 2016

    Territan, thanks I'll give the Google search option a try.

    Kerya, what a goof I am... I'd overlooked the "gear" icon. [edit] it helped very much.

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited July 2016

    Dart, I've opened my own discussion for modeling Vertex/Spline objs in Carrara... Modeling Objects in Carrara - Q&A - Come One and All.  I mention only a few links to videos, forum disscussions and DAZ pay tutorials. Since you have so many more resources ie; links etc. I've reffered them to here for more. Check it out some time and let me know if I'm stepping on your toes. Even if I am don't worry, I'm not thaaat heavy. :)

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  • I love all the info for this program and I can't wait to use this. but there is one question Im not seeing, How do I close the program? I hit the 'X' and nothing happens, I right click ht close and still nothing. My program won't close. I don't want to restart my computer everytime just to close this program down. any suggestions?

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634

    What you have tried works for me and should for you also. You DO NOT need to restart your computer. Start Task Manager using CTRL+ALT+D, once only, which brings up a menu, Task Manager should be the last choice... click it to open... Carrara.exe will be near the top if sorted by name... highlight it and choose END TASK button and Carrara should shut down.

    I installed Carrara with DIM... so would uninstall it along with it's contents... type Carrara in it's search bar for installed content. Then install Carrara the main program only first... after that is done install the content.

    This sounds like there may be a requester that Carrara or OS opened relating to Carrara which is behind Carrara's main screen... check the task bar and it might show something... also try shrinking Carrara and all other open programs to the task bar which might reveal any requesters.

    First or after trying/checking these open up a Support Ticket in DAZ Help... it will be at least the next day before they answer.

    I would have mentioned this in Official Release of Carrara 8.5 **Update - 8.5.1.19** where there are DAZ employees as well as many Carrara users.
    Good luck... you will be up and closing in no time. :)

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    edited August 2016

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    Fenric's Tools

    I am putting some of these tools to Constant use, while others I still need to explore more - as with many things in Carrara, both things that are included in Carrara Pro as well as after-market supplements. All in all, however, when I was going from laptop to desktop to my home-built workstation I ended up reinstalling Carrara a few times and, each time, if I tried messing around in Carrara before installing my Fenric tools, Carrara just didn't feel right. Fenric has certainly played a huge role in helping me to achieve my goals.

    Shader Power Tools - is a combination of many of the tools he sold via his site at prices too low to be sold here at Daz 3d. Bundling them together makes for a beautiful pile of very useful Carrara utilities! It includes the following tools previously sold in his (now closed) store: 

    • Shader Doctor
    • Skin Doctor
    • Advanced Shader Tweaker
    • Multi-Shader Editor
    • Layer Blending Shader
    • Enhanced Color Balance Shader
    • Enhanced Color Merge Shader

    I use the Advanced Shader Tweaker quite often, but really have to spend some time to get to know and use the others in this pack. They're all very helpful, useful utilities - it just takes me breaking away from old habits and looking at new/different ways of looking at shaders.

    BVH/PZ2 Exporter for Carrara - If this didn't exist, neither would my Swordworks for M4 or AnimationKit for Mil Dragon 2, since I made the animations in Carrara and used this tool to get them into PZ2 files, and then bringing those into DS to create the aniBlocks - which is a fine workflow. Very useful tool, it doesn't work for Triax rigging. But for recording any animations for any Poser-format models, this thing is incredibly powerful! 

    • Exports Static Poser format Pose File (PZ2)
    • Exports Animated Poser format Pose File (PZ2)
    • Exports Poser compatible BioVision Animation File (BVH)
    • Configurable Operation
      • Choose whether to include or exclude:
        • Overall Motion (global translation)
        • Joint Rotation
        • Morph Dial Settings
        • Joint Scaling (independent X, Y, and Z parameters)
      • Configure start and end frame range for animated poses

    Pose Helper for Carrara - Again, unfortunately this doesn't work on Genesis or other Triax figures - but I LOVE this tool! So nice to be able to swap pose directions > send left to right, right to left, along with everything else that it does. Being that I still enjoy using Generation 4 and other Poser Format figures (also works with native figures, primitives, etc.,) I find myself using this handy device quite a lot.

    •  Left / Right Pose Symmetry based on scene element names
    • Morph Zeroing
    • Pose Zeroing
    • Rotation Setting
    • Scale Zeroing
    • Scale Setting
    • General Scene Option Setting
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    • Full undo/redo support
    • Works on content, native figures, and groups of primitives
    • Works across multiple figures and groups

    ​Carrara Enhanced Remote Control - Here we go! This bad boy is truly amazing! Faba (fabaone at ShareCG) has some very helpful tutorials and helper (controler) objects at ShareCG, and PhilW teaches us how to use this to let one aileron of an Biplane model control all the other ailerons and the wires that connect them! Really cool! That's in his Advanced Carrara Techniques course via Infinite Skills.

    This tool is best explained by the creator himself:

    Details

    Control a Value
    ..... With a Value
    .........From any object in your scene!

    The Enhanced Remote Control suite is a set of behavior modifiers and scene commands that work together to add much needed functionality and control to your animation workflow. It provides the basic functionality of Poser's ERC for creating joint-controlled movement within Carrara. But it also provides so much more, giving you the building blocks to rapidly create advanced, realistic animation.

    Control them all: Shaders, light values, position, rotation, morph settings - even other modifiers!

    Contains

    • Commands
      • Add ERC Modifier
      • Create ERC Chain
      • Add Pin Modifier
      • Delete Keyframes
      • Remove Duplicate Keyframes
      • Jitter Keyframes
      • Change Morph Limits
      • Property Explorer
    • Modifiers
      • Pin
      • ERC


     

    Features

    • Add ERC Modifier and Add Pin Modifier allow you to add the modifiers to the joints of imported Poser figures, which are otherwise locked out of having 3rd party modifiers added.
    • Create ERC Chain allows you to create a chain of basic ERC modifiers. The objects in the chain do not have to be children in the tree!
    • Delete Keyframes gives you the ability to do a “deep delete” of all of the current keyframes for an object. Set the scene time to the keyframe to be deleted, and select one or more objects to clear. You will be presented with a choice of “Selected Figure” (the default), where every item in each selected animation group will have the current keyframe cleared. “Selected and Children” where only the selected subtrees will be cleared, and “Selected Only”, where only the topmost selected items will be cleared.
    • Remove Duplicate Keyframes analyzes the timelines of the selected items. Any keyframe that is identical to both the preceeding and following frames will be deleted. You will be presented with a choice of “Selected Figure” (the default), where every item in each selected animation group will have the current keyframe cleared. “Selected and Children” where only the selected subtrees will be cleared, and “Selected Only”, where only the topmost selected items will be cleared.
    • Jitter Keyframes operates on the currently selected keyframes. They will be randomly moved forward or back in time within the limits specified, adding realism to your animation.
    • Change Morph Limits allows you to select a morph target and change the minimum and maximum allowed levels. Use this to stop the irritating “snap-back” behavior of morphs on imported Poser content when you attempt to enter a number that is out of range.
    • The Property Explorer is there because sometimes it can be difficult to guess what you are trying to do with the ERC modifier. The Property Explorer can help guide you by showing you a list that contains the same set of properties as are available in the ERC setup. Clicking on a property will display its current value, and you have the ability to set a new value by entering it in the “New Value” box and clicking “Update”.
    • The Pin Modifier attempts to fix the location of an item in XYZ space. It cannot override the motion of parent items, so it is a best-effort lock rather than an absolute one.
    • The Enhanced Remote Control Modifier is the main feature of the product. It allows you to drive any animateable parameter using another parameter as the controller. It is philosophically similar to the ERC facility in Poser, but it is far more powerful. The Carrara ERC modifier can accept any object in your scene as the source of the controller: other figures, lights, cameras, helpers – allowing for limitless combinations. You can even set up your own animation UI with helper objects! and Create dynamic special effects!
      In addition to the normal value operations, it also provides:
      • Late Start: you do not have to start the control at keyframe zero! Specify your starting time.
      • Cut Off: you do not have to try to work around the control for your entire scene – make it stop when you want it to!
      • Delay: Similar to late start, Delay prevents the control from happening for a given number of keyframes. Unlike late start, Delay remembers what should have happened and plays it back!This is quite simply indispensable for realistic animation of tails, ropes, and chains!
      • Decay: you can cause the control to decay over time, becoming less and less.
      • Grow: you can cause the control to be amplified over time, getting larger and larger.
      • Oscillate: you can set the amount of the control to oscillate over time
    • Absolute Mode: In absolute mode, the value of the control is used at the point in time it is needed, and the value being controlled is directly modified. The figure being controlled should start at zero pose for best results.
    • Relative Mode: In relative mode, the difference in the value of the control from the value it had when the ERC modifier first started working to the value at the current time is used, rather than the exact value. This allows you to do some manual posing of the figure being controlled
    • Name That Modifier: You can specify a title for the ERC Modifier, overriding the default of “ERC” so that you can easily keep track of which is which after you have added multiple copies of the ERC modifier to the same object.

    This is one of those that I really need to practice using more! This thing is awesome! 

    Pose and Shading Tools 2 - Again... I need to sit down and play with these. I bought this because I know that I will love using these systems, I just have to take the time to dig in and try them! 

    • Pose Transfer Command The main feature, this command will copy rotation, scaling, and transform between different characters. The copy is by joint name, so you can cross between Gen3, Gen4, Smith Micro, and even custom figures if they're named the same way. Copies morph settings between instances of the same character, too! Copies ANIMATION in both standard keyframe mode (faster) and "bake" mode which will capture Physics, ERC, motion path, and IK related movements. Additionally, it includes the ability to invert the value - great for mirroring movements. THERE IS NO UNDO!
    •  
    • Stack Tweener Ever wish you could oscillate along the bezier spline? This will let you! Stack up to six different sub-tweeners with configurable percentage weight for blending. Need more than six? Just stack in another stack!
    •  
    • Clear Timeline Command I gave you a "deep" delete with ERC, now here's its brother: Select a keyframe or tweener, and this command will clear out the entire timeline that it is sitting on. THERE IS NO UNDO!
    •  
    • TowardAway Shader Ever wanted to shade the two sides of a polygon different colors? With this simple shader, you can. White when the normal is pointing toward the camera, black when it is pointing away - this is great for simulating linings in clothing (which is nearly always one-sided).
    •  
    • Color Balance Shader Is that texture map just a tad on the green side? Colors too vibrant? Have a great prodecural stack that's just a bit too dim? This simple shader lets you adjust R, G, B, H, S, V values of the color result of a sub-shader.
    •  
    • Color Separation Shader So suppose you want just one channel out of the available color? This separation has two modes: pure, which will extract the red, green, or blue channels. And greyscale, which will give a greyscale representation of Red, Green, Blue, Alpha, Hue, Luminosity, and Saturation. Optionally adjust the brightness of the extracted layer, and even invert the value.
    •  
    • Color Merge Shader The opposite of Color Separation, this shader allows you to build a new color based on the input of four sub shaders - one for each channel (RGBA or HLSA)

    MDD File Format for Carrara - This is the one Fenric Tool that I do not (yet) own.

    Details

    Lightwave Motion Designer Data (MDD) File Format Filter for Carrara

    Bring Carrara fully into your animation work-flow!

    This plugin provides both import and export support for the Lightwave Motion Designer/Point Oven (MDD) file format. MDD is rapidly emerging as an industry standard for animation data exchange between 3D applications by pairing a standard wavefront Object (OBJ) file with a frame-based description of the animation for that object.

    This plugin opens the doors to animation by enabling Carrara to both import and export the OBJ/MDD file pairing.

    What's Included and Features

    Supported Platforms

    Carrara 7: Windows, Macintosh
    Carrara 8: Windows (32, 64), Macintosh (PPC, Intel32, Intel64)

    Features

    Export

    Any object can be exported. On export, a pair of files will be created with the same name and different file extensions: an OBJ and an MDD. It will have material definitions, but no shading, grouping, or normals. Textures are not exported.

    You may need to scale and/or rotate the resulting file in your destination application.

    Import

    Two files are required with the same name but different extensions: an OBJ and an MDD. The importer will import the OBJ, and will preserve materials but will remove any groups and normals. Textures are not imported. The MDD will be imported as a sequence of morphs, one per frame, and the importer will place keyframes to turn the morphs on and off. IMPORTANT: You need your default tweener set to "linear", or you must convert the tweeners to "linear" before using the animation. Otherwise, the animation will be badly distorted.

    You may need to scale and/or rotate the figure to match your scene.

    Also includes
    - Presets to assist with import from/export to various popular 3D package
    - Facility to save and load custom presets

          

    Posing Pack 3 - Here it is! There was a discussion going on just the other day about changing the visibility of an entire hierarchy chain being a pain in the butt! This plugin (I totally forgot about that function) has that capability and a whole lot more! I use this thing CONSTANTLY!

    This thing adds Tree Duplicate to the list of "Edit > Fenric" commands, which allows us to essentially duplicate things which cannot be duplicated! Instead of actual duplication, these Tree Duplicates are their own instances or separate figures, not the memory-saving instances we get from duplicated props and simple objects. But it makes it so we can get exact copies of - yes - Figures!!! So useful for vehicles, rigged building figures, even character figures. It basically (and quickly) pretends to add whatever is selected into the browser (without adding it to the browser) and drags it back into the scene - really fast! But wait... there's a lot more!

    This also adds the aforementioned Unlock Figure and Restore Figure! Wanna add a custom morph zone into a locked figure? Unlock it - change it - Restore it! Yup!

    We also get the Set Figure Visibility command which, as I've started this tool's description with, allows us to hide entire chains of hierarchy within a figure with a single click! I gotta tell John and Misty!!!

    It also adds Change Rotation, which is a command which will go through the whole figure and change ALL of the joint rotations from Carrara's default Quaternion to Angles! So if you've ever loaded in a figure that ends up looking like it's tied in a knot as soon as you start working with it, you now know how to fix it! :)

    Details

    The Posing Toolkit 3 gives you the power you need to get your work done, unlocking and enabling a number of critical features that allow you to tap into the awesome potential of Carrara!

    Have you ever set up the perfect background figure: clothes, hair, accessories, got everything all set and then remembered that Carrara just won't let you duplicate it? Oh, the menu option is there, teasing you - but it's disabled! The Replicator just won't cut it: you need individual poses! Enter the Tree Duplicator: duplicate anything and everything that can be selected in the scene tree!

    You've got a nifty new bit of conforming clothing, but there aren't any morph areas! Morphing a posed figure is great, but you need to be able to set the stuff up, right? The new Unlock Figure command opens up the power locked away behind those greyed out menu options. (And you can put things back to the way Carrara expects with the Restore Figure command)

    Sometimes, you've just got to hide things! But clicking the awkwardly-located "Visible" checkbox on imported content can be a chore. Just imagine hiding a hand with the fingers... oy! The new Set Figure Visibility command will do the hard work for you, activating or deactivating an entire chain of body parts with the click of a button.

    Do rotation options have your custom figures spinning around? Or are Carrara's defaults turning your people into pretzels? Carrara's default "Quarternion" controller is powerful, but also incompatible with just about everything. The Change Rotation command comes to the rescue, changing everything from a single joint to an entire skeleton to the much more compatible "Angles" controller.

    What's Included and Features

    • Five new scene commands
      • Tree Duplicator
      • Unlock Figure
      • Restore Figure
      • Change Rotation
      • Set Figure Visibility

    If you're wondering about any of these, please ask! I may know what you need to know - if not, I might be able to find out ;)

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  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    edited August 2016
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164
    edited August 2016

    ...OK ran into a really odd and slightly annoying issue.  As I was working on a scene, the Transition manipulator suddenly stopped working correctly.  I could move the manipulator itself just fine, however, whatever I have selected just stays in place and doesn't move at all.  Not sure how this happened.  I saved the scene closed the programme and then re-opened everything again to see if whatever was causing this had either been cleared or reset, but the issue still persisted.  Both the rotation and scaling manipulators work the way the should.

    Makes it it extremely difficult to set up a scene.as I have to mes with the Transform settings in the Motion tab to move anything side to side or up and down.

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  • chickenmanchickenman Posts: 1,095

    Check the Cap locks

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164
    edited August 2016

    ...oy, Thanks. 

    My most disliked key on the keyboard (which I wish I could disable sometimes). I occasionally hit it instead of <shift> by accident, like for example, when trying to highlight a range of items so I can use the Group function (which I did several times last night).  Here I thought I hit some unkown hotkey shortcut (the reason I don't like Blender) by accident and ended up going through all the menus as well as  the preferences to find what setting I may have changed.

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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 9,410
    edited August 2016
    kyoto kid said:

    ...oy, Thanks. 

    My most disliked key on the keyboard (which I wish I could disable sometimes). I occasionally hit it instead of <shift> by accident, like for example, when trying to highlight a range of items so I can use the Group function (which I did several times last night).  Here I thought I hit some unkown hotkey shortcut (the reason I don't like Blender) by accident and ended up going through all the menus as well as  the preferences to find what setting I may have changed.

    How to Disable Caps Lock Key in Windows 7, 8, 10, or Vista

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-caps-lock-key-in-windows-vista/

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164
    edited August 2016

    ...uhhh, not sure I want to try messing with the registry.  I may know how to build computers, but when it comes to this kind of stuff, I prefer to leave sleeping dogs lie.

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  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966

    Sorry I missed you question, Kyoto! 

    On a total side note... I really love this! I want hair like that for my Rosie character! Make it brunette and... Bam! ;)

    Great Movie too!

    On my Laptop I'm constantly smashing the Caps instead of shift! Bugs me smetimes!

     

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited August 2016

    Either a Carrara feature or a plug-in could be to disable either all keyboard keys or better yet only certain key/key combinations, shortuts. The plug-in/feature should be able to turn itself on/off as well as save which keys to disable and of course to load all shortcuts or various ones/presets.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164

    ...yeah need to learn more about dynamic hair in Carrara.  Tried to create it with Garabaldi in Daz (uses roughly a similar stand building format that Pixar employed), but oy, a pain as for every pose you have to totally restyle it, and with multiple layers that is a tonne of work.

    Of course, Pixar spent about three years writing and testing the algorithms for it   Yeah three years just for her hair.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    wgdjohn said:

    Either a Carrara feature or a plug-in could be to disable either all keyboard keys or better yet only certain key/key combinations, shortuts. The plug-in/feature should be able to turn itself on/off as well as save which keys to disable and of course to load all shortcuts or various ones/presets.

    I love the Carrara shortcuts... it's this new keyboard I'm having a hard time getting used to! ;)

    I'm bashing the wrong keys ALL the time... not just in Carrara!

     

    kyoto kid said:

    ...yeah need to learn more about dynamic hair in Carrara.  Tried to create it with Garabaldi in Daz (uses roughly a similar stand building format that Pixar employed), but oy, a pain as for every pose you have to totally restyle it, and with multiple layers that is a tonne of work.

    Of course, Pixar spent about three years writing and testing the algorithms for it   Yeah three years just for her hair.

    So worth it! That hair really sells the whole beginning of the show!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 28,164

    ...yeah the people who worked on it liken the hair itself to being a character of its own.

    After seeing some really good Dynamic hair work here, I am inspired to give it a go.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966
    edited October 2016

     

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited October 2016

    Carrara Information Manual

    This thread is intended to supplement and enhance the Carrara User's Manual. Carrara 8 ships with a Carrara 6 manual. The links below will open the latest versions:

    Dart,  You might want to say/add that "Carrara 8.5 Pro ships with Carrara 7 manual." I don't remember what Carrara 8 had as a manual... probably never read it. :)

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  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 13,966

    Done and Done! Thanks!

    Somewhere in there, Carrara 8 was shipping with the Carrara 6 Manual, which has lovely cover art. Then somewhere, sometime, it went back tp the Carrara 7 manual. 

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