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That price is way toohigh just for iray materials. However...
It IS in the right price range for a character that might be sold with an included 3D print license.
That price is way toohigh just for iray materials. However...
It IS in the right price range for a character that might be sold with an included 3D print license.
I'm not talking about the price - that's obviously set too high so no one will buy it yet. The price at release will probably be closer to $14-$18.
Wasn't this sort of thing done a couple of years back with one of the sale offers not long after the store changeover? I think we were told something like "we have to do it this way because Magento doesn't allow us (again) to filter out non-sale-qualifying customers".
Wow. It's been over a week (since I found her, anyways) and the price on this item hasn't changed -- it MUST be for real, then. I'd love to know if anyone has bought a copy of her at that price.
I do not have that kind of money to get her at that price.
I do not have that kind of money to get her at that price.
I think few people do. I can't imagine who DAZ is targeting this product at. Someone willing to pay this kind of money for a human character is probably going to want something done in Maya or 3ds Max, not hobbyist software like DS or Poser.
It seems pretty obvious that the price is set so that people WON'T buy it, so that the only people who get it will be those who receive it as part of a special promotion.
If Bijou is a promotional item like the 3D printed figure I and about a thousand others received, then why is she in the store at all? DAZ didn't put the printed figure up for sale (at any price) after it gave out the first batch of prints, and if Bijou is an exclusive like that, then there are other ways to distribute her that DON'T require an entry in the store. And why put something in the store if you DON'T plan to sell it (and to sell as many as you possibly can)? Bijou is an attractive-looking character, but IMO nothing about her appears to justify the price DAZ is asking for her. I'd love to know what's really going on here.
Normally, when you see a product priced this way, it's so people won't actually buy it. In this case, it was used for a targeted promotion. As you can't download 3D print figures, they wouldn't need to be done that way.
If Bijou is a promotional item like the 3D printed figure I and about a thousand others received, then why is she in the store at all? DAZ didn't put the printed figure up for sale (at any price) after it gave out the first batch of prints, and if Bijou is an exclusive like that, then there are other ways to distribute her that DON'T require an entry in the store. And why put something in the store if you DON'T plan to sell it (and to sell as many as you possibly can)? Bijou is an attractive-looking character, but IMO nothing about her appears to justify the price DAZ is asking for her. I'd love to know what's really going on here.
AS both Mike and Cris have said. If the figure is going to be used for a specific or targeted promotion then it needs a store presence.
Think back to the prices that were put on the Members Only monthly PC freebies when they first started on the new store. Before DAZ 3D got the coding done and the rules set in place they all had large Store prices for normal people, to keep them fairly exclusive to the PC members.during the month that they were free.
I'm not saying that what you're saying is untrue -- but if it IS true, then it's another terrific example of DAZ's unique way of doing things ("unique" in this case not necessarily being a positive thing). Have a good one, guy...
Simple answer Product library and DIM.
I raised a support ticket about Bijou, assuming her pricing to be a mistake (and before thinking about hitting the forums). Here's the response I got:
So sit tight, keep your $350, and Bijou will be making her way to you within the year.
In a Facebook group, someone said they got Bijou for free for being a good customer. I'm certainly not going to pay for her when she is released then! The giving different rewards to different people is one thing, (40% vs 50%) but when you start giving products away then putting them on the market for the rest of us "suckers" to pay for- it's "not going to support those tactics" time.
And if she isn't going to be available to the rest of us, IT HAS NO BUSINESS BEING ON THE SITE TO RUB IT IN OUR FACES.
Get professional or hire someone who is, to do the marketing and website!
If that is true it is pretty divisive. Ughh...
Sales tactics that reward certain people for being 'good customers' eventually get out, and then the other customers wonder... well, Am I not good enough? What qualifies as good anyway....?
This a really cool character that a lot of us have been wanting....
I'm not sure how you infer that it isn't going to be available to others - "It is a special item we give to customers at certain times—their anniversary with DAZ, their birthday, or something like that" sounds as if it's likely to be inclusive in the end, though those of us with bad timing may have to wait a while (my birthday was only a month or so before the item appeared, I'm not sure when my DAZ anniversary is).
If Bijou IS a promo item used to reward purchasing or loyalty, DAZ has done a remarkable (and by "remarkable", I mean "non-existent") job of promoting her as such. What the hell is the point of an incentive if no one even knows that there IS an incentive, or what customer behavior you're trying to promote? And it's not even a GUARANTEED incentive: DAZ MIGHT choose to reward you with her for your anniversary, or for spending X dollars in a given time frame -- and then again, they might not. Since DAZ hasn't made any kind of public statement that I know of addressing the issue, I don't see where they've obligated themselves to do anything at all. FWIW, DAZ: this isn't building mystique or stoking interest, it's simply confusing, annoying, and alienating, and whoever came up with the idea would probably be better employed in the fast food or janitorial arts, 'cause whatever you're paying them to come up with marketing ideas is probably too much.
Maybe it is meant to be a nice surprise?
It sounds like when DAZ sent some people a free 3D printed model. It was a nice surprise for those who received it, but as soon as it was discussed in the forum, everybody else was sad and felt excluded and unwanted.
Actually, the most charitable explanation I can come up with is that DAZ is attempting to pull a Cartmanland (and I'm referring to how the episode actually played out, not to Cartman's initial intent).
"Cartmanland - You can't come" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crosjxD4XaI)
Daz frequently does very- VERY nice things for their customers.
There's quite a few points being made, mine is simple. This has no business being on the website for all of us to have access to. It's NOT AVAILABLE and available merchandise goes into the store. They're trying different marketing techniques and they need feedback for it to be effective (and if they don't know that, they need to be fired.) The feedback from people getting the freebies is "Yippee!" and from the rest of us, it's one or more of these:
1.) so what, don't care and you folks are over-reacting
2) thanks for shoving it in my face that others are getting something and I'm not.
3) thanks for shoving it in my face that I can't get this unless I pay for it but others get it free
4.) both 2 and 3.
By simply removing it from the website shopping pages, Daz can minimalize 2 and 3.
And Richard, Happy Belated Birthday. :)
did you not see this part of the quote from CS
Assuming that's true, DAZ COULD have eliminated all of this confusion and speculation by putting that information on the product's page to begin with ("WARNING: PROMO/REWARD ITEM -- DO NOT PURCHASE", or words to that effect), but for whatever reason, they simply chose not to -- but then again, they wouldn't be DAZ if they DIDN'T have communication issues with their customer base.
I don't know which is worse: that someone thought a stunt like this was a good idea marketing-wise, or that somebody else actually approved it.
Yes, I did. Did you not see my point is "It shouldn't be in the store." I don't care what price they put on it. It does NOT have to be live in the store. Domains are around $8 a year for pete's sake (1and1)and they could have a separate online presence for marketing tactics. People sign in, send them to the page, they have one download, done.
Yes, I did. Did you not see my point is "It shouldn't be in the store." I don't care what price they put on it. It does NOT have to be live in the store. Domains are around $8 a year for pete's sake (1and1)and they could have a separate online presence for marketing tactics. People sign in, send them to the page, they have one download, done.
It has to be in the store, so that then it can be put into peoples Product library and can be downloaded through DIM.
Gotcha. And I was also thinking after I posted, it's my understanding that Magento is only for one site per license. Can't be multi-use on different sites. I think that's how the business agreement is usually set up.
So what Kevin said applies IMO. Post a notice. Simple, and good communication with customers.
Curious: searching for "Bijou" in the store doesn't bring up this item any more. The link still works, and the price is still the same, but you can't find her using the store's search feature. Still works in Google and Yahoo, tho'.
what I am thinking is she was made unique for someone but if anyone else wants her they are paying an arm and a leg for a single model, I believe the price is this high for exclusivity.