Adventure Window - Bryce Game Creator

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• Oroboros Posts: 326

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  er... Good luck?
• Horo Posts: 10,138

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Good luck indeed. I'm not a passionate gamer but when I did them, it was adventures, like Myst and Riven, in earlier times text adventures like Colossal Cave. Never got the hang of action games (I'm too clumsy and slow).
• bjorn.lovoll Posts: 29

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  I wish you luck, but suggest that Bryce is not the right tool for the task. I love Bryce; I have been using it for around 13 years. But it is really not up to some of the images you will see in the games you mentioned. At least not without A LOT of extra work. If you are going for a polished professional product I suggest you aim higher with your render & modeler tools. If you are going for "reasonably good" and very easy then Bryce might be the right choice.

  Amongst the issues Bryce has is their skys do not look good. It also struggles with volumetrics and similar things (fuzzy, over lapping transparencies and so on). I remain hopeful these bugs/issues will eventually be addressed but since they have been there since Bryce 5 (2000) it seems my patience is not likely to be rewarded.

  If on the other hand you are only advertising a free game engine, that is very generous of you.
• Jamahoney Posts: 1,791

  February 2013 edited February 2013

  I haven't enough CG experience to make a reply on the above game engine, however, mention of CYAN's Myst and Riven (was my favourite of all) brings back so many memories.

  I recall always looking forward to playing the game (never cheating as that just ended the game quickly), and necessary solving all the puzzles (like Horo, I kinda like this type of game, as the current continuous slash-type games,I feel, must get boring doing the same old thing all the time).

  Wonder if CYAN have any Myst/Riven games in the pipeline - would purchase in an instant?

  But best of luck with your venture.

  Edit: BTW...most won't download or open a zip file on just a mention in a forum, so perhaps you should supply a few images of the software interface, or a www site address where a viewer has the options to look into it more without having to just dowlaod a zip.

  Jay

  Post edited by Jamahoney on February 2013
• Oroboros Posts: 326

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Jamahoney said:

  I haven't enough CG experience to make a reply on the above game engine, however, mention of CYAN's Myst and Riven (was my favourite of all) brings back so many memories.

  I was a total MYST geek. Got the game. Discussed the story in alt.fan.games.myst. Know all the hidden scenes. Bought the albums. Even had a few chats with MYST sound designer Chris Brandkamp (now a director of Cyan Worlds I think), and he even sent me a free copy of RealMYST when I was doing a project around it. Good times.

  Wonder if CYAN have any Myst/Riven games in the pipeline - would purchase in an instant?

  There were several post-Riven games in MYST's world set, licenced from Cyan Worlds but not directly produced by Cyan Worlds. Exile, Revelation and End of Ages existed in the solo game player space, and they had Uru as a MMO, but that never really took off... I think it ran for about 3-4 years.

  Riven and MYST are now available for the iPad.

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  I think this initiative could be great for people interested in prototyping games to be developed on other platforms. Mock-up, high-level demos, if you will. But this initiative seems to have three drawbacks that need to be questioned before I can get interested about it.

  1) This seems to be a repackaging of a technology that has existed for 20 years: QTVR. We can do much of what has been suggested in this open source initiative NOW, in-browser. QTVR puts limited zoom and hotlink areas in cylinder or spherical map images: click a link, and you advance to the next QTVR angle. A modern incarnation of this effect is in Google Maps' Street View, though the technology might be a little different.

  So, to operate 'switches' in a scene (open/close doors, operate lights, etc) like you're doing things at a location, it's just a matter of creating two near-identical QTVR movies: one with the switch up, one with the switch down, and connecting them with a hotlink.

  No-one does QTVR any more. It's boring. It was an interesting artifact for its time that has some practical applications but virtually no entertaining ones.

  2) This is a personal project, not a group-focused one. Like Bryce, this game project seems to be re-inventing wheels and is held together by a passion for nostalgia. So if this guy gets interested in doing something else, support for this project fails.

  3) No project. As a designer, I get interested in projects. Here, the offer is: "Hey! I'm making a hammer anyone can use! You can build a house with it!" Now... I could get interested in building a house, maybe... but not by myself. And certainly not just with a hammer. I'd like blueprints, other tools, and most importantly, other people interested in building the same house.

  So... this game making tool is weirdly pitched in Brycetalk. Obviously, you can use any 3D tool to create the imagery. I'd've thought the 2 good moves to make would be

  a) find out if there's a demand for the product/service before getting into it, then
  b) find other coders and developers willing to do an open source project together, then
  c) Create a project to demo its potential.

  The demo contained in the link (I've checked it, it's ok Jama :) does not, in my opinion, demo potential.
• Oroboros Posts: 326

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Horo said:

  Never got the hang of action games (I'm too clumsy and slow).

  Just for you Horo :)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbvcHNheUo
• Jamahoney Posts: 1,791

  February 2013 edited February 2013

  Oroboros...great vid...but you need to take a course in driving...haha ;) Don’t know if they updated Riven since, as they would be considered somewhat ‘static’ in comparisons to the 3d look-around environments we experience today.

  Have to say I’m a fan of the single-player also ever sine the first DOOM came out (ah...memories), but since then Halo, Half Life (simply excellent), Crysis, and others all have graphics to die for (takes away from the sometimes ‘crappy' storyline).

  In the puzzle area again, Ms Croft (say it posh, please) was okay, too (the next one is due out soon), and Portal’s 1 and 2 were superb.

  Everyone to their own in the games they play, but the slasher ones (where you continuously have to slash one monster again and again until he falls..then move on to the next monster etc.,) are ones that bore this player, anyway.

  Jay

  Post edited by Jamahoney on February 2013
• time-killer-games Posts: 0

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  @Oroboros: if I die and no one else takes the wheel then that is the only way I can see this project failing. ;)

  Update: Android is now supported. Within the next few version updates the Android-based OUYA console will also be supported. :)
  Open the android zip on any desktop OS using 7zip or products like it and modify the run.ini assets folder and the images in the frames subfolder. You may also modify the icon and splash screen. If you extract the apk, be sure to repackage it as a zip folder while renaming the *.zip extension back to *.apk.

  Thank you all for the kind words and feedback.
  TKG
• Horo Posts: 10,138

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Oroboros said:

  Just for you Horo :)
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbvcHNheUo

  Thank you. Nice video, some great scenes. The roads need a bit of attention, they're a bit bumpy. ;)
• Trish Posts: 2,625

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  I think it would be cool to make a game like Myst point and click...so you can make your own scenes also? like an animation?
• Trish Posts: 2,625

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  I found this if anyone is interrested

  

  

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• Jamahoney Posts: 1,791

  February 2013 edited February 2013

  Bullit...must check it out.

  Have to admit, though, as Myst was one of my top games when it initially came out, I bought the version 'Myst URU Ages Beyond Myst' about two years ago (I think?), and while I looked forward to playing with it, I was kinda disappointed - not in the actual game and graphics, but felt that I wanted more than what it originally had been. Does that sound confusing...em, I wanted it to be more, say, modern in how one interfaced with it. But that said, it was a 2003 game, so I think I was also expecting too much - the tech wasn't as advanced for then as it is now.

  It's time someone came up with a Myst, Riven game again, but let's have it be super-interfaced, super-graphics and worlds, lands, people...etc. I love games of all sorts, but some times I would like just to 'chill' in a real out-of-this-world experience, solve a few puzzles - like Myst/Riven was when they came out initially.

  Jay

  Post edited by Jamahoney on February 2013
• LordHardDriven Posts: 937

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Speaking of games I just had to chime in with how amazing it is the way our perceptions change. I remember when Wolfenstein first hit the market, at the time it was one of the coolest looking games out there. Recently (within the last year) I was rummaging around and found my old copy of it and installed it just messing around and I found it hard to believe I ever thought it was a great game. Same thing with pong. Being that there was really not much like it at the time pong came out we all thought this was such an amazing thing. Now a days you can't even get small children interested in such a simple video game. :)
• time-killer-games Posts: 0

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Alright. The binaries are being updated for windows and android. If you want to use adventure window effectively, please be sure to wait until I have the new version uploaded. Is there a feature or export target you would like to develop with, that Adventure Window does not yet offer? If you are interested in developing Adventure Window itself, you can modify the source with the free Enigma IDE available at http://www.enigma-dev.org/
• Jamahoney Posts: 1,791

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Ah yes, Wolfenstein...and what about Zork...hahaaa...so cool back then.

  Time-killer-games...back on track again on your original topic - you'll have to forgive us for talking about the oldies but goodies...hahaaa ;)
• time-killer-games Posts: 0

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Nah man it's all good..
• Trish Posts: 2,625

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Zork that makes me feel old, man I didn't do well at that....Go North...Go West.. LOL
• atticanne Posts: 3,009

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  Something else to occupy my time, not that I have any extra.
• time-killer-games Posts: 0

  February 2013 edited December 1969

  AdventureWindow is now available for Mac OSX. Special thanks to SecondReality Games for all the help!