March 2015 New User Contest - Posing (WIP thread)
Scott Livingston
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New User's Contest - March 2015
Sponsored by DAZ 3D and Elliandra
Are you new to the 3D World? Are you at the beginning stages of learning 3D rendering? Have you been around for a little bit but feel you could benefit from some feedback or instruction? Have you been around awhile and would like to help other members start their creative journey? Well then come and join the fun as we host our newest contest...
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"Posing"
This month we will be focusing on Posing. For this contest we would like you to search the web for a pose you feel is dynamic and interesting and then use that reference as a guide as you try to replicate it within your app of choice to be used in any way you would like within your final entry. You will also be required to post your reference image (or a link to it) in addition to your entry if you enter this months contest. We will be posting example images as well as some ideas on terms to search and some other tips in the WIP THREAD.
If you are a new user, or if you consider yourself a beginner at posing, you are welcome to post your works in process (WIP) to this thread. I will be checking in on the WIP thread, as will the rest of the Community Volunteers, to provide feedback and try and help with anything you all may need so feel free to ask questions. Look in this thread (the WIP thread) for links on Posing. Once your image is finished, if you wish you may enter this month's New User Contest.
For a list of the current contest rules, please see this thread : Contest Rules.
To enter the contest, please post your completed image to the Entries Thread.
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How to Use Your Software:
in DAZ Studio
Great Art Now - Posing And Morphing [download] [YouTube]
How to Create and Pose Characters with DAZ 3D
Facial Poses in DAZ 4
Posing the Model in DAZ 4
in Poser
Artistic Posing in Poser - Very in Depth
Introduction to Posing in Poser
Poser Tutorial: Quick Posing
in Carrara
Carrara 3D Tutorial - Posing a Figure
Posing in Carrara
Posing Tips - Carrara Cafe
in Bryce
While it is not possible to pose things in Bryce, you are welcome to do your posing in another program such as DAZ Studio or Poser, then export and render in Bryce. For information on how to use the Bryce bridge to import a DS scene into Bryce: http://brycebasics.blogspot.com/2009/12/using-daz-studio-with-bryce.html
General Posing Information/Reference
(Please note some links are google search results so you may get some nudity depending on what your preference settings are for Google Images):
July 2012 New User Contest WIP Thread
Deviant Art Pose Emporium Great spot to find tons of great photo references for natural poses
Posing Reference for Artists Google Search Results
Classic Pinup Posing Google Search
Portrait Photo Basics
7 Posing Techniques for Non-Models
Examples of Posing:
July 2012 New User Contest entries thread
(More examples to be posted to this thread below)
I will be checking in as will the rest of the Community Volunteers to try and help with anything you all may need.
For a list of the current contest rules, please see this thread : Contest Rules
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Elliandra has graciously agreed to award:
1st place - Choice of 3 packs (with the exception of partnered packs)
2nd place - Choice of 2 packs (with the exception of partnered packs)
HM - Choice of 2 packs (with the exception of partnered packs)
Closing Date: March 31, 2015
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Here's a render I did for this contest the last time it was held (back in 2012). It didn't win anything, but I'm still proud of it. :)
When posting your image to the WIP thread, please also post your reference image so that we can compare. If you wish to enter the contest, you will also need to post the reference image to the contest entry thread alongside your entry.
What I like about this image:
- I worked hard on the pose and I think it turned out well
- The lighting, but I can't take all the credit for it...mostly I have Lantios to thank for that
- I created the mountain range by loading a few instances of the rock from Parkside Point Ground and adjusting translation and scaling values
Where I see room for improvement:
- I wish I'd put more effort into the poses of the enemies
- The render settings aren't high enough...that's why the depth of field looks rather grainy. If this happens to you, increase your x and y Pixel Samples to at least 8.
- I always thought the sky backdrop matched my lighting really well, but now I think the sky should probably have been flipped horizontally, to keep the direction of the sunlight consistent
Here's a trick that should help you (quoting Szark's post from the previous contest):
I have used this trick. I applied the image to a plane instead of loading in background.
I am really looking forward to this contest. Should be fun.
Don't know if I'll be using this, but I couldn't help but try to do a tribute to the late Mr. Spock.
Ether way I wanted to share what I was using as my reference somewhat.
looking around for poses on the internet I came upon this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2477044/Giving-drag-racing-new-meaning-Male-staff-motorcycle-dealership-attempt-seductive-poses-hilarious-photo-spread.html
I have been laughing my head off, its hillarious. Unfotunately I don't have a motorcycle in my library or I would have picked one of those
Hey there everyone!
Posting my first wip. I don´t know what I´m gonna use in the end but I will be trying different ideas. I recently watched a video of Madonna´s performance and there were 2 moments where she was in a position that looked really good to me. This is the first one.
Starring Lilith 6 as Madonna : ) : D
They are funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Here are some options for motorcycles:
If you are a PC Member there is this one from DAZ for $1.99: http://www.daz3d.com/yamaki-fdr2-fusion
Or there is this freebie from ShareCG: http://www.sharecg.com/v/75425/browse/11/Poser/shukkys_WAKASAKI_ER_7
They are funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Here are some options for motorcycles:
If you a PC Member there is this one from DAZ for $1.99: http://www.daz3d.com/yamaki-fdr2-fusion
Or there is this freebie from ShareCG: http://www.sharecg.com/v/75425/browse/11/Poser/shukkys_WAKASAKI_ER_7
Wow thanks a lot, I downloaded the freebie. The bike looks nice and would do the job for the models.
I got the bike imported but I don't seem to get the textures working. Never tried to get an obj. file working in DAZ up to now. Maybe I just put the colours and shaders on it myself.
tilt the entire figure on z axis roll to get the pelvis angle right then work from that. Look at your ref photo, her pelvis and torso are leaning, she isn't bending at waist. This will also allow less "bend" on the left thigh to match her pose better.
Hey there Teofa and thanks for suggestion! Will give it a try : )
very rough concept render. The female is overscale atm. I may abandon this for lack of male g2 morphs.
Frazetta with a twist.
more done
I like the twist you put on this Teofa.
I like you swapping their roles, and ther general poses and mood already is good
I would try to give the Lady warrior a more male stance. In the moment she is pushing her breasts out or the shoulders back. It's kind of typical for what you see in RPG poster art but it's kind of bad pose to actually fight and her male counterpart in the original is not doing any of that sort.
Very nice start! I think Spock's fingers are more vertical in the photo; your character's fingertips seem to be leaning forward a little bit. The other details of the pose and expression are a little hard to make out due to the dim lighting.
Looking very nice, but I agree with Teofa that there are some differences in the angle of the hip. Once the hip is just right, it's easier to get everything else in the right place and looking natural. If the hip isn't quite right, the whole pose will probably look slightly "off."
Still, this is a wonderful start!
I love it, Teofa! Aesthetically it's quite nice already (lighting, composition, etc.), and I appreciate the subversive twist. :)
As far as the pose goes...I think the poses look very natural and pretty close to the reference. There are two areas in which they seem slightly different. The first is the standing character's shoulders and chest, as Linwelly pointed out. The other area is the kneeling character's stance (hips and legs). In your image, the man's hip is a little more elevated that the woman's hips in the reference, his right thigh is a little more vertical, and his right knee is a little more forward (the woman's seems rotated further to her left side). I'm not sure, but in order to match the reference more perfectly, you might need to elevate the man's left foot slightly, by putting a rock or something under it.
The other thing I noticed is that the figures seem slightly blurry...not sure if this was an intentional stylistic choice, but if not, you may need to adjust the Depth of Field settings (assuming you are using Depth of Field).
Yes, I had her right collar all kinds of messed up. Thanks for noticing that. Huge mistake.
Re the pretty boy's pose, when I move to be more precise his calf disappears into his thigh. His pose is a compromise.
also frustrated with no "male voluptuous" morphs. hmmph.
Dunno about the blurring you see. DoF settings seem ok. Maybe messing around with progressive rendering? I post small jpegs as well.
For anyone wondering, the "hill" they are on is the floor prop from the genesis dragon tutorial, flipped over and rescaled.
I believe there is something like "pear figure" that should be a possible morph on male genesis 2, maybe that can help give him the bellyfat
I believe there is something like "pear figure" that should be a possible morph on male genesis 2, maybe that can help give him the bellyfat
I have that for Gen, not Gen2. Stock comes with almost no morphs,or they aren't showing up. I would have used Gen but the skin I have is abysmal."jeremy", so I used G2.
SickleYield's free G2M conversion of the DieTrying morphs might come in handy (available from ShareCG): http://www.sharecg.com/v/73186/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/DieTryings-182-Morphs-for-Genesis-2-Male
Perhaps it was due to Progressive Rendering...either that or you fixed it, as your latest one doesn't seem blurry at all.
DOH! Since I have those for Gen and G2 Female I feel kinda dumb. Thanks.
I am not happy with the background and lighting. I may change them out so I can better match the original image.
The composition is off as well but I was trying to match the original image there as well.
Kismet. Get the pelvis first, then the rest. The pelvis angle is small, but has a big impact. Your photo girls hipbones are angled, your models are horizontal.
The subtle "offbalance" is what is telling my brain that the photo girl is in motion.
Ok. If I learned anything from Shep Paine it was that slight imbalance in a static pose convinces the brain the object was caught in motion.
I hope no one minds, this is a simple illustration of "bending" vs "movement". the only change in the pose was the hip angle.
Our brain tells us the first image is "do-able" while still. The second image tells our brain things are wobbly.
The third image is still trying to tell us it is static and bending, since the body core is not offbalanced even though the legs have been moved to approximate the offbalance pose.
I certainly don't mind. I kept looking at it all morning and I could not put my finger on what was wrong. I tried to start with the hip/pelvis bones and work my way out. Really need to stop working on renders when tired. :)
Made quite a few adjustments to the pose.
@ Kismet Nicer, more "free". I would consider the left collar.. was trying the pose in the mirror and noted I tended to roll the shoulder forward a bit and photo lady looks like she is too.
Since I it upon the copyright problem last month, I thought I rather ask before I put something here.
How do you handle this with the reference images? I do find It rather confusing. With most pictures it's never explicitly said that they have a copyright ore they are free, how do you handle that?
My Motorcycle pinups do have a copyright within the picture, would that be ok to post?