So the issue is just with the M6 shape? if so I'm sure I can make a few pectorial smoothers and upload as a freebie or something. With regards to Shapeshift, it was developed before M6, so there was no need for pectorial morph corrections because I never saw the shape:)
So the issue is just with the M6 shape? if so I'm sure I can make a few pectorial smoothers and upload as a freebie or something. With regards to Shapeshift, it was developed before M6, so there was no need for pectorial morph corrections because I never saw the shape:)
In my opinion, the pec shape is very odd on the base G2M. There's just too much fullness to it for a regular guy and there currently is no way to reduce the volume. I think an average to slender guy doesn't have a chest that looks like that. With previous figures like M4, his pecs were fairly flat until you added muscle morphs
Cool. I will see what can be done..I have some free time today:) Think a no breast type morph similar to one found on the females would be usefull as well.
So the issue is just with the M6 shape? if so I'm sure I can make a few pectorial smoothers and upload as a freebie or something. With regards to Shapeshift, it was developed before M6, so there was no need for pectorial morph corrections because I never saw the shape:)
Here's a quick render showing what I feel is odd looking - Genesis with Basic Male and G2M default.
For it being a base shape, I think G2M works because it will work as a base for clothing. If the chest is too flat, then there is issues when you expand the chest. Too big and you have the same issue.
Anyway, would this work for M6 (not the base G2M)?
Lol this is a freebie, not a full out product. I will see what I can do. I am just going to try and address the main issues, but if I have time, will add some more stuff:)
Lol this is a freebie, not a full out product. I will see what I can do. I am just going to try and address the main issues, but if I have time, will add some more stuff:)
I'll take the freebies AND a full blown product...it would be worth the $. :-)
I don't have Michael 6, but I could do you nipples height for the "G"2M free base. Because his unnaturally high nipples are even more creepy than the horribly shaped pecs.
But isn't that already included in the morphs set? I thought that was a basic morph sure to be included.
But isn't that already included in the morphs set? I thought that was a basic morph sure to be included.
From what I can find from my delta comparison test, G2M body morphpack has following unique morphs that affect the pectorals.
PBMPectoralsCleavage.dsf
PBMPectoralsDiameter.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeavy.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeight.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeightOuter.dsf
PBMPectoralsSag.dsf
PBMPectoralsUnderCurve.dsf
I'm one of the people who too thinks that the chest area of G2M and M6 definitely needs work, I'm glad that Zev0 is on this problem and I so hope he can add some more variety and more believable shapes to the pectorals. I mostly work in Poser and always need to smooth out the chest area with the Morphing Tool, even if I don't use full M6, only half of the body morph and half of the other full body morph shapes.
Here's a quick render showing what I feel is odd looking - Genesis with Basic Male and G2M default.
For it being a base shape, I think G2M works because it will work as a base for clothing. If the chest is too flat, then there is issues when you expand the chest. Too big and you have the same issue.
Anyway, would this work for M6 (not the base G2M)?
that's a nice morph
This is just my opinion, but I think the default shape for a male should be somewhat undefined in muscle tone and moderate in body size. Morphs and shapes should be used to add muscle or fat bulk and definition. If you take the current G2M and use a thin morph, he still has full pecs, where a thin guy would have a flat chest.
But isn't that already included in the morphs set? I thought that was a basic morph sure to be included.
From what I can find from my delta comparison test, G2M body morphpack has following unique morphs that affect the pectorals.
PBMPectoralsCleavage.dsf
PBMPectoralsDiameter.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeavy.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeight.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeightOuter.dsf
PBMPectoralsSag.dsf
PBMPectoralsUnderCurve.dsf
But nipples? I'm talking about nipples. I mean, I don't mind doing them, but I'd assume they would be already included...
g2m does not have width or height morphs for the nips. You can sort of achieve this by moving the breasts around, but that would be a pose not a morph.
But isn't that already included in the morphs set? I thought that was a basic morph sure to be included.
From what I can find from my delta comparison test, G2M body morphpack has following unique morphs that affect the pectorals.
PBMPectoralsCleavage.dsf
PBMPectoralsDiameter.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeavy.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeight.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeightOuter.dsf
PBMPectoralsSag.dsf
PBMPectoralsUnderCurve.dsf
But nipples? I'm talking about nipples. I mean, I don't mind doing them, but I'd assume they would be already included...
There are four nipple morphs in both G2M and G2F body packages.
PBMNipplesDepth.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
*PBMNipplesDiameter.dsf - the different delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
PBMNipplesLarge.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
PBMNipplesSize.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
Only one out of those four has unique deltas, while other three are interchangeable and as far as I recall, none of those four have any additional bone adjustments on either figures, so in some weird sense those three morphs with same deltas are 'unisex'. They will look somewhat differently on G2M and G2F because G2M and G2F bases look differently, but the shaping itself is same in 75% of nipple morphs on both male and female figures if we speak of Body Morph packages.
I'm one of the people who too thinks that the chest area of G2M and M6 definitely needs work, I'm glad that Zev0 is on this problem and I so hope he can add some more variety and more believable shapes to the pectorals. I mostly work in Poser and always need to smooth out the chest area with the Morphing Tool, even if I don't use full M6, only half of the body morph and half of the other full body morph shapes.
Here's a quick render showing what I feel is odd looking - Genesis with Basic Male and G2M default.
For it being a base shape, I think G2M works because it will work as a base for clothing. If the chest is too flat, then there is issues when you expand the chest. Too big and you have the same issue.
Anyway, would this work for M6 (not the base G2M)?
that's a nice morph
This is just my opinion, but I think the default shape for a male should be somewhat undefined in muscle tone and moderate in body size. Morphs and shapes should be used to add muscle or fat bulk and definition. If you take the current G2M and use a thin morph, he still has full pecs, where a thin guy would have a flat chest.
G2M has less muscle definition than M4, I believe. However the default shape is where the weightmaps are defined, so it needs to be somewhere in the middle.
Ok here you go.. Two shots. One showing the base smoother on the base shape, the other on M6. I included a nipple height morph. Will attach the download link soon.
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I have hopes that a morph set will be released to allow people to give G2M more variety of body shapes and details.
I know there are couple out there already but, not doing the trick.
This one I've not tried yet
http://www.daz3d.com/shape-shift-for-genesis-2-male-s-m6
I have the shape shift for g2m and it doesn't really address the pectorals.
OK. THIS is good to know. Then yes, some proper morphs need to be made down the road here.
Thanks for the info.
Same goes for this one:
http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-2-male-body-morphs Just does not address the issue.
yeah, I saw what was included on the list and passed because of that
yeah, I saw what was included on the list and passed because of that
Understandable.
So the issue is just with the M6 shape? if so I'm sure I can make a few pectorial smoothers and upload as a freebie or something. With regards to Shapeshift, it was developed before M6, so there was no need for pectorial morph corrections because I never saw the shape:)
In my opinion, the pec shape is very odd on the base G2M. There's just too much fullness to it for a regular guy and there currently is no way to reduce the volume. I think an average to slender guy doesn't have a chest that looks like that. With previous figures like M4, his pecs were fairly flat until you added muscle morphs
Cool. I will see what can be done..I have some free time today:) Think a no breast type morph similar to one found on the females would be usefull as well.
Here's a quick render showing what I feel is odd looking - Genesis with Basic Male and G2M default.
Ah yes, the lines are very defined, I'll see if those can be softened a bit. Will have to test them with the bone movement first..bleh.
That would make sense! :-)
and YES, that would be awesome!!! ;-)
Sounds great, Zev0...would also like to see nipple height/width adjustments as well as several pec undercurve shapes.
For it being a base shape, I think G2M works because it will work as a base for clothing. If the chest is too flat, then there is issues when you expand the chest. Too big and you have the same issue.
Anyway, would this work for M6 (not the base G2M)?
Lol this is a freebie, not a full out product. I will see what I can do. I am just going to try and address the main issues, but if I have time, will add some more stuff:)
That looks pretty natural to me, i like.
I'll take the freebies AND a full blown product...it would be worth the $. :-)
I don't have Michael 6, but I could do you nipples height for the "G"2M free base. Because his unnaturally high nipples are even more creepy than the horribly shaped pecs.
But isn't that already included in the morphs set? I thought that was a basic morph sure to be included.
From what I can find from my delta comparison test, G2M body morphpack has following unique morphs that affect the pectorals.
PBMPectoralsCleavage.dsf
PBMPectoralsDiameter.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeavy.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeight.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeightOuter.dsf
PBMPectoralsSag.dsf
PBMPectoralsUnderCurve.dsf
I'm one of the people who too thinks that the chest area of G2M and M6 definitely needs work, I'm glad that Zev0 is on this problem and I so hope he can add some more variety and more believable shapes to the pectorals. I mostly work in Poser and always need to smooth out the chest area with the Morphing Tool, even if I don't use full M6, only half of the body morph and half of the other full body morph shapes.
For it being a base shape, I think G2M works because it will work as a base for clothing. If the chest is too flat, then there is issues when you expand the chest. Too big and you have the same issue.
Anyway, would this work for M6 (not the base G2M)?
that's a nice morph
This is just my opinion, but I think the default shape for a male should be somewhat undefined in muscle tone and moderate in body size. Morphs and shapes should be used to add muscle or fat bulk and definition. If you take the current G2M and use a thin morph, he still has full pecs, where a thin guy would have a flat chest.
From what I can find from my delta comparison test, G2M body morphpack has following unique morphs that affect the pectorals.
PBMPectoralsCleavage.dsf
PBMPectoralsDiameter.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeavy.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeight.dsf
PBMPectoralsHeightOuter.dsf
PBMPectoralsSag.dsf
PBMPectoralsUnderCurve.dsf
But nipples? I'm talking about nipples. I mean, I don't mind doing them, but I'd assume they would be already included...
g2m does not have width or height morphs for the nips. You can sort of achieve this by moving the breasts around, but that would be a pose not a morph.
OMG!!
I'll go do some.
But nipples? I'm talking about nipples. I mean, I don't mind doing them, but I'd assume they would be already included...
There are four nipple morphs in both G2M and G2F body packages.
PBMNipplesDepth.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
*PBMNipplesDiameter.dsf - the different delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
PBMNipplesLarge.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
PBMNipplesSize.dsf - the same delta in both G2M and G2F packs.
Only one out of those four has unique deltas, while other three are interchangeable and as far as I recall, none of those four have any additional bone adjustments on either figures, so in some weird sense those three morphs with same deltas are 'unisex'. They will look somewhat differently on G2M and G2F because G2M and G2F bases look differently, but the shaping itself is same in 75% of nipple morphs on both male and female figures if we speak of Body Morph packages.
;-)
HEY JEPE! I'll catch yah on DA ;-)
that's a nice morph
This is just my opinion, but I think the default shape for a male should be somewhat undefined in muscle tone and moderate in body size. Morphs and shapes should be used to add muscle or fat bulk and definition. If you take the current G2M and use a thin morph, he still has full pecs, where a thin guy would have a flat chest.
G2M has less muscle definition than M4, I believe. However the default shape is where the weightmaps are defined, so it needs to be somewhere in the middle.
Ok here you go.. Two shots. One showing the base smoother on the base shape, the other on M6. I included a nipple height morph. Will attach the download link soon.