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One of the new releases today has a render with the label "DAZ Studio 3Delight Render". Is this an official label or just something the PA cooked up?
Try adding the attachment again. If you get the broken image icon, trying it again should work (eventually)
Third time was the charm. Thanks!
I made that logo myself. The pack is for both Iray and 3Delight, and I wanted to render both versions so people could see the difference. Given the subject of this thread, I thought it would be appropriate to label the renders properly to avoid any confusion.
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*Compatible with: DAZ Studio 4.8 or higher. Includes Iray-Ready + 3Delight-Ready Props.* <THIS is all I really need. I'm pretty easy to please lol. Its great that you took the time to do it both ways. I don't expect all of the vendors to do this all of the time, I understand that its labor intensive. I appreciate it very much when you do but know it may not be practical all the time. But those words would solve all of my problems with figuring out what's what.
...I use primarily Iray and as most of my content is older, I end up converting all the shaders over manually. Yeah, it may take a bit of time depending on what is in the scene, but It really isn't all that big of a deal. Most of my recent purchases (as well as fair number of freebie downloads) have been Iray shaders/shader packs
In the past we had the tags: Daz Studio Render, LuxRender, Octane Render, and Iray Render. Don't see why these cannot still be used.
Crikey, I wouldn't have an issue if everything in a promo were still rendered in 3DL.
Yes, as you say, a line listing compatibilty is really helpful to customers. The way I see it, the easier I make my products to buy, the better for all concerned.
Anyone know if The Old Barn is 3DL friendly?
Isn´t it a shame that we have to ask things like this in these days? I hope that DAZ soon will decide which way to go. Including 2 completele different render engines that are not compatible with each other leads to a big mess. However if DAZ decides to go on with 3DL AND Iray, the vendors should be forced to include materials for both engines. Everything else, again, is just a big mess.
Oh, and to answer your question:
No, it seems to be NOT 3DL friendly, because the product page says that it includes only Iray material presets.
We seem to be looking at two different product pages... :D Where does it say it only includes Iray materials? :-o It says it has Iray material presets. That does not (should not) mean that it does not include 3Delight as well.
Someone should create a preset that takes existing Iray materials and redies them for 3DL for those that prefer 3DL. There is such a conversion tool to go from 3DL to Iray ... Right?
Anyway ... I guess I could buy it for the structure and use shaders. But it's really stupid that I should have to.
Someone in another thread mentioned that it actually loads as 3Delight. I can't seem to find that thread now, it was just today.
In my understanding a product contains either 3DL materials, Iray materials, or 3DL and Iray materials.
The product page of the Old Barn mentions Iray materials, but not 3DL materials. So I have to think that it has only Iray materials.
But as I said above, it´s just a big mess.
One problem is that there's a bunch of different 3DL shaders someone might want to use.
I mean, I have dust/grime shader, which I might want to use. I might want to use wood/metal shaders. Or I might want to use what's included...
For skin, do you want to use the Human Subsurface Shader? Or Omnisurface? Or... what?
Going from 3DL > Iray, on the other hand, not so much...
The file list does not show a folder with 3delight presets, just a single folder of materials. That doesn't mean it won't render in 3Delight, but it doesn't have separate settings for both and the mention of Iray specifically would make me think it may not look ideal in 3Delight without adjustment.
Ah, here it is: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/67004/the-old-barn#latest
Thanks ... I was just searching for other threads about the barn but wasn't finding what I wanted.
Select your figure, go to surfaces window, select the surfaces you want to convert.
Then go to :
Shader Presets > DS Defaults
in the content library
Doubleclick on a shader you want the item to have. It gets converted in moments. Then slide things around until they look okay to you, you may need to add a texture into bump or spec if it gets lost in translation.
While I agree that vendors should actually list which renderengine they support with the 1-click presets that ship with it, you should not see the end of the world in a product that does not come with 3Delight presets. At the end of the day, more often than not, those presets are not that great anyways and you end up tweaking things to suit your needs.
All you really need from any given object are the raw images which can be used with any shader. It is pretty easy to apply shaders or custom shader presets to any surface in fact I've never used the default presets when I used 3delight and neither do I use them in Iray. One of the things I noticed is that most venders when working with 3delight is that they don't even bother setting specularity in 3delight so its not like you are getting the best visual settings.
The process is really easy. Say you are working with something that is supposed to look like skin. Find a shader preset that does the skin look well or have your own preset. Save as a shader and uncheck the images checkbox so you can apply that shader to any skin surface without replacing the images. Now you can apply that shader preset to any object. If you bought a pack of shader presets you can apply that shader while holding ctrl and then select the option to not replace images.
Once you have your favorite shader for skin, just load up any material for skin which could be 3delight or Iray. Select all the skin surfaces and then apply that skin shader. The same process applies to any object. Load material>select surfaces> apply shader.
It all comes down to tonemapping. When rendering there is a hidden panel on the left side of the render window that can be pulled out by clicking on small rectangle in the middle of the left side. For higher contrast you could use crush blacks and burn highlights, you can also lower gamma to 2.
The problem - at least for me - is not whether or not something comes wiht 3Delight materials or Iray materials or both. The problem is that DAZ and the PA's simply won't tell us clearly. So either I take a risk, and if I lose have to go through an annoying return process or I just leave the product.
There's also a very simple solution. All product pages for items released after the introduction of Iray should (at least, don't murder me Carrera and Reality and Octane users) have the following fields:
1) Iray Materials: Yes / No
2) 3Delight Materials: Yes / No
3) Poser Materials: Yes / No
That's 1 minute or less work for the PA or marketing person who has to fill it out. I'm sure someone can code a dropdown menu for this, then it's less than 10 seconds. Saves the customers several minutes per person filling our returns and quite a lot of nerves.
We're not even talking about promos, I know letting us actually see what we buy before we buy it is really asking too much. But can't you at least tell us clearly?
I made the same decision(s), though I have already quite successfully replaced Iray materials with my own shaders. But this is no solution for every product.
Today, I would like to know if MartinJFrost's new release 'Tropical Plants for Daz Studio and Iray Vol.1' is for Iray and 3Delight, or for Iray only. He writes 'For Daz Studio and Iray' - what should this mean? Daz Studio is the program; what I would like to know is if the materials are for 3Delight and Iray.
1 minute times 18,000 items is a major task, though. Granted some can be excluded on gorunds of age (though on the other other hand some older items have been updated for Iray).
Having to refund more and more items for more and more people, just because the description is not clear, is an even bigger task.
Doing the back catalogue at that estimated rate would come to 300 person-hours. One person doing only that job for seven hour days would take around 42 working days to do it (and be bored out of their minds). It would take a lot of refunds to match that!
But doing it for new items would not be that difficult and I think it would be a good thing. I don't expect older items to be Iray compatible, I don't expect extremly old items to be really 3Delight friendly either, but new stuff could be incompatible with 3Delight, Iray and Poser. And apart from the amount of time taken it could prevent some customer dissatisfaction, which can be a good thing for any shop.
DAZ has at least 74 employees (according to LinkedIn), so if everyone wrote one line of text into the descriptions, it would take half a day. I'm obviously not serious about this. :) But reading the forums, this problems seems to come up with more and more new products. Brand new, shiny product, you just don't know if it will work for you.
You could probably do a simple pass to set all 'before Iray came out' as 3DL only, for starters.
Even if there was a 6-12 month gap of undefined stuff, there'd at LEAST be some ability to filter, and producers would be motivated to submit flags for their own material (since it'll help motivated customers reach their stuff)
Adressing the problem would be hard work.
Let's just let the problem increase.
Same strategy I use for my dentist. I'm sure it'll be fine.
Of course, that's becaue I imagine the dentist to be 18.000 times worse than he actually is. No parallels here, no sir.