[Contest] RRRR - Unlikely Occupations - with prizes

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  • MorganRLewisMorganRLewis Posts: 233
    edited December 1969

    diomede64 said:
    @Morgan 1 - Makes me think of those old Matt Helm movies. Fun one.

    I only made it through the first one of those... didn't quite catch with me the way Bond did. But still, thank you!

    And thank you, Ensim, as well!

    Luci45 #3: Yeah, I can imagine it gets hard to remember everything you have to put in at this point. I sometimes have trouble just with the default four. Your picture came out fantastic as always, though.

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,714
    edited June 2015

    Another procrastinatory visit from me.

    @emsim #1 - aw, cute! I hope those mice have deep pockets.. (or any pockets?)
    @Luci45 #3 - aha, the return of Mr Poofy Pants at last! And wow, even more people! Great job.
    @diomede64 #2 - great idea, and yes, that's definitely an unlikely occupation!

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  • zawarkalzawarkal Posts: 1,018
    edited December 1969

    there are certainly lots of great ideas

    I've had to throw out my original thoughts and come up with something else. Had much better day yesterday and actually came close to finishing

  • zawarkalzawarkal Posts: 1,018
    edited December 1969

    Zawarkal said:
    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie
    m4 armor of the void - xurge
    construction tools collection
    helen
    lb:zac hair

    ok, have 2 or 3 ideas will see which direction it leads me

    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie-- all mannequins
    m4 armor of the void - xurge-- worn by repairman
    construction tools collection-- used both hammers, chalk tape(on waist), and pry bar
    helen-- worn by mannequin with pinched leg
    lb:zac hair-- worn by portal selector head mannequins

    |:| Portal Repairman |:|

    In the dark void of Dilly Donka's Mannequin Factory, the emotional portal selector became stuck on Fear. So the Portal Repairman (oompah loompah) hovered in to fix the machine.

    What do you get when you
    give up your choice
    You find your life's stuck
    no matter whose voice...

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,165
    edited December 1969

    Zawarkal said:
    Zawarkal said:
    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie
    m4 armor of the void - xurge
    construction tools collection
    helen
    lb:zac hair

    ok, have 2 or 3 ideas will see which direction it leads me

    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie-- all mannequins
    m4 armor of the void - xurge-- worn by repairman
    construction tools collection-- used both hammers, chalk tape(on waist), and pry bar
    helen-- worn by mannequin with pinched leg
    lb:zac hair-- worn by portal selector head mannequins

    |:| Portal Repairman |:|

    In the dark void of Dilly Donka's Mannequin Factory, the emotional portal selector became stuck on Fear. So the Portal Repairman (oompah loompah) hovered in to fix the machine.

    What do you get when you
    give up your choice
    You find your life's stuck
    no matter whose voice...
    I enjoy your entries so much!

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054
    edited December 1969

    Linwelly said:
    Totte said:
    Linwelly said:

    help a newbie- please :red:
    Ok, I'm too stupid, how do I get those file names as a text into a txt file, if not copy and paste every single one, and where do I find the itemized history for a first step...

    You can select all in DIM and right-click and do "export to csv". Or you copy from each order email, but that is what you can do after you setup your first base list.

    Thank you, that worked like a charm :wow:


    So here is my first draw:

    Karaoke Machine
    L-XV Furniture Pack
    M4 Expressions
    Extraordinary League

    well that shure will result in an unlikely occupation...

    I don't know yet how to add the icons of the products, will edit this when I find out

    Finally got my first entry done:
    Captain Nemo's Apprentice

    Apprenticing captain Nemo had been his dream for a long while. That it became true despite his lack in playing the organ was a wonder, so he tried hard to compensate for that. His first presentation before the captain and his honored guest dindn't work out the way he planned..

    used additionally :
    the pit
    Gistunic
    V5 pants
    M4treadz
    M4 bodysuit upgrade
    Urban warrior
    diverse shaders
    rendered in 3dlight

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  • zawarkalzawarkal Posts: 1,018
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    Zawarkal said:
    Zawarkal said:
    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie
    m4 armor of the void - xurge
    construction tools collection
    helen
    lb:zac hair

    ok, have 2 or 3 ideas will see which direction it leads me

    pull#01

    expressions for teen josie-- all mannequins
    m4 armor of the void - xurge-- worn by repairman
    construction tools collection-- used both hammers, chalk tape(on waist), and pry bar
    helen-- worn by mannequin with pinched leg
    lb:zac hair-- worn by portal selector head mannequins

    |:| Portal Repairman |:|

    In the dark void of Dilly Donka's Mannequin Factory, the emotional portal selector became stuck on Fear. So the Portal Repairman (oompah loompah) hovered in to fix the machine.

    What do you get when you
    give up your choice
    You find your life's stuck
    no matter whose voice...

    I enjoy your entries so much!
    thank you :)
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,165
    edited December 1969

    Linwelly said:

    So here is my first draw:

    Karaoke Machine
    L-XV Furniture Pack
    M4 Expressions
    Extraordinary League

    well that shure will result in an unlikely occupation...

    I don't know yet how to add the icons of the products, will edit this when I find out

    Finally got my first entry done:
    Captain Nemo's Apprentice

    Nice work! I like the emotive expressions.
  • MorganRLewisMorganRLewis Posts: 233
    edited June 2015

    My second pull was:

    Attitude Poses
    Rowan
    Treadz for V4
    Genesis Bracers

    Tag: MorganRLewis #2
    Title: Gauntlet Hut

    "Welcome to Gauntlet Hut, where you can get the latest gauntlets and the best doughnuts! I'm sorry, those are only display models; we're actually all out of gauntlets at the moment. But we've got some really fresh doughnuts!"

    Gauntlet Hut and their peculiar choice of merchandise are a running gag with a group of my friends. When the bracers came up, with this topic, I couldn't help but bring the Hut to life.

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  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    Linwelly said:

    So here is my first draw:

    Karaoke Machine
    L-XV Furniture Pack
    M4 Expressions
    Extraordinary League

    well that shure will result in an unlikely occupation...

    I don't know yet how to add the icons of the products, will edit this when I find out

    Finally got my first entry done:
    Captain Nemo's Apprentice

    Nice work! I like the emotive expressions.

    Thank you barbult, that was the best part in making that render

  • MorganRLewisMorganRLewis Posts: 233
    edited June 2015

    Zawarkal #1: Trippy as ever. And a bit freaky. Well done!
    Linwelly #1: Nice job! The poses really tell the story.

    And for my third pull... making sure I've got the right thread this time...:

    Warp Mistress
    KB-Lythra for G2F
    Tenebrific for Raiver
    Golf Equipment

    Edit: Right thread, but wrong tag in the previous picture post. Fixed now, but sheesh. I'm on a roll here.

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  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054
    edited December 1969

    Thanks a lot Morgan.

    This is a funny way to get your muse to work so here is my second pull:

    M4 Bodysuit Unimesh Fits - Elite
    Everyday Shader Collection
    Dagger Dreams DS
    Beach Volleyball Set DS

    Uh, I will have to find out what that elite means though, It came with the freebie m4 hero pro pack.
    Got an idea where to go with this :coolsmirk:

  • luci45luci45 Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    Thanks, MelanieL, emsim, diomede64, Morgan R. Lewis
    MorganRLewis #1 Good one and great description.
    Totte #3 I love this one! Stoltz looks the part with his hypnotic gaze and cigar. The horse looks calm so he must know what he's doing. I love the lighting - it inspired me to buy the HDR set as it looks much better than the promos.
    emsim #1 Hehe, do they pay her well? Maybe they are pack rats. Nice render. Cute littel critters.
    Diomede #2 Nice use of pull. The transformers need some music, need to chill out!
    Zawarkal #1 Portal repair man - great occupation. Beautiful render. I love the post work. And you have a wonderfully bizzar sense of humor.
    Linwelly #1 This is great! I love the poses and expressions.
    MorganRLewis #2 Wow, a lot of donuts. I hope they're fresh. Gauntlets, huh?

    My pull #4
    Wheel Excavator
    TOA Legendary
    Rosemarie
    FSL Royal Darius 6
    Cut for Gianni 6 (LB)
    Atmospheric Effects Cameras for DAZ Studio (LB)
    Michael 4 Business Suit (LB)
    A Thousand and Two Nights (LB)
    Alien Module (LB)

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,165
    edited June 2015

    My first draw was:
    String Bikini for Victoria 6 (on both women)
    Courageous for V4 (on Gianni 6 - yes, I created a V4 to G2M clone awhile back)
    Buccaneer Basic for Genesis (on Muck)
    Pond Builder - Base (pond, cattails, grass, lilies)
    The Study Expansion Pack (LB) (chair, footstool, rug, logs)
    Valentine (LB) (heart shaped boats, card sail, candy box, candy in Gianni's hand)
    Industrial Compressor (LB) (just the compressor; that's the whole product)

    Also used:
    Muck for Genesis !!!
    Diana for Olympia
    Milena hair
    Bold hair
    Kaylum hair
    Barbed wire fence from Songbird Remix: Characters
    Hose from Welding Cart
    Jungle Vines
    Iray Uber shader, fabric, and metal shaders
    Ron's Angel Dust

    Lighting is from the "Path" HDRI from HDRI-HUB. It is free, released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License.

    Tag: barbult #1
    Loveboat Launcher
    After his parole, our beloved Muck found it difficult to get a job. Perhaps he was hindered by interviewing in buccaneer garb. Or, perhaps it was just that seafaring garb that landed him the position of Loveboat Launcher down at the rural pond. With a burst of air from his compressor, he pushed the boats off the sandy beach and into the water. Unfortunately, a poorly aimed or overly powerful burst tended to tip the boats, dumping their occupants into the murky pond. Muck may be searching for a new job soon...

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,839
    edited December 1969

    ...just took a look through the Entries Only thread. Lots of goofy stuff (crikey, judging the "Funny" category's going to be a real pain in the bum this go-around).

    Especially love the Roadpainter's Paintbrush, Unusual Pet Therapist,, Rodent Real Estate Agent, and Loveboat Launcher.


    ...looks like my kind of theme, we'll see if I can get anything off the ground this month without too many RL intrusions and nice weather breaks.

  • luci45luci45 Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    My first draw was:
    String Bikini for Victoria 6 (on both women)
    Courageous for V4 (on Gianni 6 - yes, I created a V4 to G2M clone awhile back)
    Buccaneer Basic for Genesis (on Muck)
    Pond Builder - Base (pond, cattails, grass, lilies)
    The Study Expansion Pack (LB) (chair, footstool, rug, logs)
    Valentine (LB) (heart shaped boats, card sail, candy box, candy in Gianni's hand)
    Industrial Compressor (LB) (just the compressor; that's the whole product)

    Also used:
    Diana for Olympia
    Milena hair
    Bold hair
    Kaylum hair
    Barbed wire fence from Songbird Remix: Characters
    Hose from Welding Cart
    Iray Uber shader, fabric, and metal shaders
    Ron's Angel Dust

    Lighting is from the "Path" HDRI from HDRI-HUB. It is free, released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License.

    Tag: barbult #1
    Loveboat Launcher
    After his parole, our beloved Muck found it difficult to get a job. Perhaps he was hindered by interviewing in buccaneer garb. Or, perhaps it was just that seafaring garb that landed him the position of Loveboat Launcher down at the rural pond. With a burst of air from his compressor, he pushed the boats off the sandy beach and into the water. Unfortunately, a poorly aimed or overly powerful burst tended to tip the boats, dumping their occupants into the murky pond. Muck may be searching for a new job soon...

    LOL, Barbult, this is awesomely insane! I love the candy box love boats and the guy eating chocolate and a lot of other things! Best of all - Muck is back! :cheese: :lol: :-)

    Kyoto Kid is right - this will be a hard one to judge, especially with two months of this madness. And I hope you join us, Kyoto Kid.

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054
    edited December 1969

    Love that one Barbult, love the girl looking over to the one crawling out of the mud


    Linwelly said:

    my second pull:

    M4 Bodysuit Unimesh Fits - Elite
    Everyday Shader Collection
    Dagger Dreams DS
    Beach Volleyball Set DS

    # 2: teacher for old style assassinations

    Sometimes frustration got the better of him, the new students didn't appreciate a good blade or a bit of poison anymore. It was a good day whe they didn't kill themselves during the lesson.. nnnh, maybe the day wasn't so bad if they did...

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,677
    edited December 1969

    Quick run through since last one, while I try to figure out how to use my pull.

    emsim #1-Very unlikely, great one!
    luci45 #3 - Fabulous use of that pull! Great idea!
    Diomede #2 - Reminds me of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy series. The rockband that you best enjoyed 30 miles from the stage, in a concrete bunker ;-)
    Zawarkal #1 - Dreamy and scary as always! I hope he can fix it!
    Linwelly #1 - Nice one - and is Nemo not really satisfied ?
    MorganRLewis #2 - Haha, poor women, all they get is donuts, and happy men, much cheaper than shoes!
    barbult #1 - Loveboat Launcher is so fun! What agnate idea and great to see much back in action!
    Linwelly #2 - Haha, very cool idea and usage!

  • luci45luci45 Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    tag: luci45 #4
    The Alien Artifacts Excavator
    "You destroyed my palace floor for that?"

    I had to use 3Delight again for the camera. This one was excruciating - long renders, lights and materials not working right, and too much postwork. I am officially throwing some 3Delight light sets and cameras out of my runtime.

    Used:
    Wheel Excavator
    TOA Legendary
    Rosemarie
    FSL Royal Darius 6
    Cut for Gianni 6 (LB)
    Atmospheric Effects Cameras for DAZ Studio (LB)
    Michael 4 Business Suit (LB)
    A Thousand and Two Nights (LB)
    Alien Module (LB)

    Also used:
    Zior Hair
    Rock and Roll Hair
    Calum
    Fez from LoREZ Arab Male
    Totally Bazaar
    Doomed Poet Poses
    Shades of Life - Nature
    Rubble
    Diggah
    Darius
    Fantastic Skins for Darius
    Urban Survivors
    Casual Jeans for G2F
    Mary Jane Shoes
    Violet Hair

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,677
    edited December 1969

    Tag: Totte #4

    Totte said:

    #4167 Prototype (#18540)
    #109 Accent Tables (#13364)
    #1447 Doctor Bundle (#5669) {
    Scrubs Outfit #5606
    Doctor Professional Outfit #5571
    Doctor Accessories #5662
    }
    #6041 Watch Tower (Rendo)

    Also used:
    Ground Shaders
    ART Ravenwood
    Skies of Economy
    Background buildings: Streets of London & Urban Sprawl 2
    Garden Shed & Tools
    Genesis + The Ghoul + Horror Movie Patient + Short order cook
    Genesis + Zombie + Highland Lad + WarDogs for Genesis + Unshaven + Horror Movie Poses
    V4 + Kaylee + DeRocca Hair

    Undead Psychotherapist at the asylum graveyard

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  • MorganRLewisMorganRLewis Posts: 233
    edited December 1969

    barbult #1: I'd say "Poor Muck", but I think my sympathies might be better aimed at the poor woman whose boat was upturned!
    Linwelly #2: Seems to me like that's a teaching job where the problem students eventually take care of themselves...
    Luci45 #4: I know what you mean. I hardly ever use pre-assembled light sets any more, simply because it's always a guessing game to figure out just what the makers did and why they did it.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,677
    edited June 2015

    Luci #4 - Fantastic idea, great render, so well executed (or was that excavated), and Yes- soon we need to add another rule as we have a Poser/Carrara/DS rule that if you pull an item only usable in another program than the one you wanna use you can repull. Might add that for IRay as well, or 3DL, if you decide to use one render engine and pulls cameras or shaders for the other, but not this round :P


    Pull #5
    #5931 Victoria 3.0 Ultra Catsuit (#1307) (Oh, thats OLD)
    #4201 Qain Textures (#8579)
    #2371 Gregoria Hair (#14556)
    #2176 Gemologica (#14789)

    Random numbers generated Jun 13 2015 at 23:20:53 by www.psychicscience.org
    Free educational resources for parapsychology and psychical research.

    OK, this one too has to be 3Delight, 3Delight shader package….

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,714
    edited December 1969

    MelanieL said:
    OK, I'm in of course - Pull 1:
    2282 = Lee 6
    895 = Stigian Princess Hair
    1162 = Stalker Girl Boots for Genesis
    561 = Just Rings Goth
    (LB) 1719 = His EarStuff
    (LB) 1528 = SciFi Candy
    Hmm, not sure what Lee's occupation is going to be...?

    Finally...

    TAG:MelanieL#1

    Hairdresser to the Stars

    Every year or so Lee Le Frisseur arrived with his mobile salon at the space station to ply his trade.
    This time his trademark flamboyance really tested that theory: "In space no one can hear you scream"

    Also Used:
    Lee Le Frisseur - Warrior Hair, Lumberjack Outfit
    Current Client - Cat Character, Gothic Male Mohawk
    Previous Client - Stephanie 5, Esidor Hair, GIS Biosuit
    Comforting Friend - Rieka
    Doubtful Third Client - Summer Edition Liu, GIS Biosuit
    GIS Orion, Useful Mirrors, West Park Ailments, Skyrider

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,714
    edited December 1969

    @Zawarkal #1 - another striking entry - I love the colourful and thought-provoking things you do.
    @Linwelly #1 - Nice one, good expressions.
    @MorganRLewis #2 - hm, that's one weird store! And a fine use of instancing (unless you really created 100s of dougnuts?!)
    @barbult #1 - aha, the return of Muck! And he's having his usual measure of luck too - great idea, and so much going on...
    @Linwelly #2 - that's a very grumpy teacher! Nice idea again.
    @Luci45 #4 - Wow, Luci - it may have driven you mad but it was worth it, really nice atmosphere there.
    @Totte #4 - I love the kilted zombie! And what a truly weird occupation :-)

    And for my second pull:

    1870 = Elevator Hallway
    1010 = Parkside High Lobby
    2694 = Indoor Shoes for Genesis 2 Female(s)
    2492 = Creatura Serpenta for Victoria 4
    (LB) 1338 = Boudoir Whispers for V4
    (LB) 403 = Brutish Armory

    Grrr - 2 environments, I hope I can glue them together successfully.

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  • MorganRLewisMorganRLewis Posts: 233
    edited December 1969

    MelanieL said:
    @MorganRLewis #2 - hm, that's one weird store! And a fine use of instancing (unless you really created 100s of dougnuts?!)

    Yeah, instancing helped a lot there. As did the fact that the Baking Set has a pre-loaded sheet of doughnuts; otherwise I think that would have been a monotonous task even with instancing! Within each case, I used instancing for the trays and for the glass panes in front; the cases themselves are just simple bookshelves. Since you apparently can't nest instancing (i.e., an instance apparently can't have children that are instances of something), I saved the bookshelf-with-doughnuts as a scene subset and loaded it multiple times.

    I love the expressions in your hair-dresser image. I don't think Lee's going to have a long stay at the station...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,839
    edited June 2015

    MelanieL said:
    @MorganRLewis #2 - hm, that's one weird store! And a fine use of instancing (unless you really created 100s of dougnuts?!)

    Yeah, instancing helped a lot there. As did the fact that the Baking Set has a pre-loaded sheet of doughnuts; otherwise I think that would have been a monotonous task even with instancing! Within each case, I used instancing for the trays and for the glass panes in front; the cases themselves are just simple bookshelves. Since you apparently can't nest instancing (i.e., an instance apparently can't have children that are instances of something), I saved the bookshelf-with-doughnuts as a scene subset and loaded it multiple times.

    I love the expressions in your hair-dresser image. I don't think Lee's going to have a long stay at the station...
    ...at least you didn't have to create a tornado out of several hundred instanced bubbles.

    Could have really used a particle generator for that one.

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  • KaribouKaribou Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    I must go back and review all those amazing entries in detail, but I must say a few things first:
    1) My toilet broke again.
    2) I need a new GPU.
    3) POOFY PANTS!

    Carry on!

    Karibou said:
    Pull #1:
    9080 Tribal Village Huts (Stonemason), DAZ
    3127 Figure Setup Tools Bundle (DAZ), DAZ -- Whoops. Need to take that one out of the database!
    8382 Sword Dancer for Genesis 2 Female(s) (Bobbie25, Sarsa), DAZ
    8477 Tele-phony (Valandar), DAZ
    5809 Never Was (The AntFarm), DAZ

    Tag: Karibou #1
    Title: Rapier-Wielding Security for Urban Steampunk Shaman
    When she'd accepted the job as "Event Security," Bianca couldn't have known what she'd be in for...

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  • KaribouKaribou Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    Pull #2:
    7355 SageBabylon- Expansion (fabiana), RR
    8553 Tellus Mater (Laksmi), DAZ
    9978 YR-Mystic Fantasia V4-A4-Elite-GND4 (renapd, Yanelis3D), RR
    9912 WWII Jeep Plus (DAZ Originals), DAZ

    Well... that had the potential to be something pretty -- right up to the Jeep.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,839
    edited December 1969

    Karibou said:
    I must go back and review all those amazing entries in detail, but I must say a few things first:
    1) My toilet broke again.
    2) I need a new GPU.
    3) POOFY PANTS!

    Carry on!

    Karibou said:
    Pull #1:
    9080 Tribal Village Huts (Stonemason), DAZ
    3127 Figure Setup Tools Bundle (DAZ), DAZ -- Whoops. Need to take that one out of the database!
    8382 Sword Dancer for Genesis 2 Female(s) (Bobbie25, Sarsa), DAZ
    8477 Tele-phony (Valandar), DAZ
    5809 Never Was (The AntFarm), DAZ

    Tag: Karibou #1
    Title: Rapier-Wielding Security for Urban Steampunk Shaman
    When she'd accepted the job as "Event Security," Bianca couldn't have known what she'd be in for...

    ...1) .not the loo again! :ohh:
    2) Yeah same here on the GPU.but memory upgrade comes first.
    3) Better then POOFY KNICKERS.

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,054
    edited June 2015

    made my third pull.. don't have any idea yet, to many possibilities

    Lucy you will never get rid of you LBs when you do such great renders. love it!
    Totte, that's a bit creepy there, I hope that gardener bot will help her get out there in time, great idea.
    Melanie, I love the expresseion of Lee so much, fits perfect.
    Karibou she looks like she's at a con or something. nice DOF effect.

    so here is pull # 3
    Breast Cancer Research Russian Egg
    DLD Stone Shaders for DAZ Studio
    Jai Hair
    Victoria 4.2 Base StudioCF

    It should be easy with so much leeway, once I have an idea. That will be the first time to use Victoria, will be interesting to get to know her.

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