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With the right bundle, I might buy a figure like Fred, but I don't know... but, I definitely think "2 out of 5" is the right number. (Jacqueline and Jada.)
For people who prefer the hot guys over hot girls? It's probably closer to a "0 out of 5" Season Pass, maybe "1 out of 5" at best.
The remainder of the SP figures? They missed the mark in terms of appeal where I'd want to buy them on their own merits. Maybe, with the right kind of bundle, I would have bought them... but as individual figures? 3 out of the 5 missed the mark for me.
IMO, that's a horrible ratio.
I don't necessarily mind supporting the 8.1 SP since I'm actually trying to experiment with the PBR skin shader, and more examples of PBR skin are good to have on hand.
That being said, I'd probably not be interested in the next SP if this is what to expect.
It turned out exactly how the pessimists on the forum expected it to go - we got the kind of base figures that would be less likely to make a sale on their own merits.
Good luck to you with the contest as well.
I'm not sure if I'll "try" again, or I'll do something dumb and spike it like my Brooke contest entry.
I guess I must have been the exact target market for the Season Pass, because Jacqueline is the SP character I've cared the least about. I snatched Jada up immediately, will eventually go back and grab Jazz and Brooke, and we'll see what the Fred bundle has to offer tonight.
I completely agree!
I deeply regretted buying the SP. If there was one thing I learned from all this, it was not buying what you don't know what it is.
The only character that maybe I would buy would be Jacqueline. I felt cheated about this SP.
I also think that they put in this SP the characters that they thought they would not sell. Since they knew that there are people who would buy without seeing, it would be a chance to sell these disposable characters.
I'm trying to view the image by 7thStone, but the link goes to an OOPS page. Does anyone have a better link, or was the image deleted?
https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/4571171387342848#image=1147766
Here's the link in the Seasonpass category.
https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/category/seasonpass#image=1147794
(Have no idea why the link in the SP page is dead...)
Thank you.
Yes, precisely! A good bundle deal used to sell me on figures that I didn't necessarily want...
Maybe it's to do with the long-lived Genesis 8/8.1 line, where fewer things are new... or maybe it's the conservativism in the attire ("cover your shoulders!"), which was already obvious long before now, like comparing Lilith 6 to the Lilith 7 bundles... but it's been harder to identify the bundles where the bundle actively helps to sell the figure.
Conforming clothes would be one good marker, when they switched to dForce everything (tube sleeves and pant legs).
*Mando-sigh*
So, the Fred contest is up now, as the last SP contest for this season.
https://www.daz3d.com/season-pass-2021#contestSeason
The season pass rules page here: https://www.daz3d.com/official-contest-rules
(It's still stuck on the Jada contest, so there's nothing new there.)
Too bad all of the promotional pages for Fred 8.1 were REMOVED after only 3 days each — maybe this is also why male characters also don't sell as well?

Pulling a promotion after only 3 days? That's really unusual, even for DAZ...
I still have an orange banner promotion for Fred 8.1 and Fred 8.1 Add-Ons that expires tomorrow, but the page was removed today.
Was really hoping to participate in the final Season Pass contest, but the price of the Fred 8.1 bundles increased to $53.39 and $56.82... even for Season Pass owners.
What an unexpected finish to the Season Pass... aaaargh.
I'm pretty sure that the last female character behaved in the same way, and probably others of the themed releases. I tend to assume that and events have usaully borne that out.
The pricing thing aside... I have a feeling that there will be a few renders using the same Talk Show set?
IMO, that's not really inspiring to me?
Just kit-bash your own talk show. That's what I'm doing, anyway. A sofa, a chair, a desk, a window onto a mindless background image. That's about all it takes, really.
EDIT: You know my talk show is going to be Babylon-5-themed (LOL), which probably means I won't be in the running by default.
Wrapping up my entry, which will surely have issues because of the obv inspirations from other media (and by that, I mean "Among Us")...
Anyway, reminder that the Contest for Fred ends May 31 at 11:59pm MDT.
Time to get your Fred on!
Congrats to the winners again (not me... but I figure I killed my chances with the Babylon 5 reference).
https://www.daz3d.com/season-pass-2021#contestWinners
PassOver.
Clark era, or post-Clark?
Well, my talk show Fred was in the Centauri Republic, not Earth Alliance... Clark era Fred might've fared better in the Fred contest, I think.
And so fizzles the first Season Pass ;)
Yeah, I don't know if I would do another SP. I'm probably more interested in the PBR skin than many others on this forum, and I have enough of that now with the SP... I know how to manipulate the PBR much better now, at least for my purposes.
So unless they delivered more and better quality, I would not touch the next SP.
IMO, we were put on a ride with this one, and not a happy fun kind of a ride.
I stand by my "2 out of 5" assessment.
I think that's a rather poor average, and likely confirms the "conspiracy theory" of those who were against the pass.
We all know what that theory is.
(The 2 of 5? Jacqueline & Jada. I made use out of Fred as a Centauri, but I'd say that was serendipitous rather than as designed for Fred. If I wasn't given Fred as part of the package, I probably would not have gone in on him & experimented with the Naval Uniform, which then triggered the Centauri idea (which was clearly the wrong idea at the end of the day). Brooke was well done, but not my kind of figure. Jazz had a good face and a remarkably undetailed, smoothboi body.)
The Kiko 8.1 release immediately after the SP? I mean, I said it already as well. That figure could have sold the SP on its own.
Replace Brooke ("the business industry" woman) with Kiko in week 1, and you could have sold more passes right there.
Instead, we got a "2 out of 5" package.
Holy...that's awesome! He definately looks Centauri!
Yes, I agree! Quality job there
Thanks
The Naval Uniform, I tried on a whim, then I knew I had to find good hair.
I used Georgie Hair & Eyebrows underneath, then the Strand-Based Hair tool to create the familiar plume of hair.
Then I used a unifying set of hair shaders (UHT Hair Shaders for Iray in this case) to make Georgie Hair and the SBH flow together.
(I've done stuff like this before, so I knew it would work. This is the first time I had the exact right fit for Centauri.)
Honestly, the Minbari(-Human hybrid) was more tricky to get right. (Mainly based on Jacqueline 8.1...) It was a little more work getting the angles right on the bone crest (using JoLab's Fallen Angel aureola for that, plus an Iray bone shader over top).
They really should have ended the season pass on the Fred contest entry deadline. The last two weeks have just seemed like blank time filler to stretch out the "season". Even just one more freebee, or something.
Good work on your Minbari, too.
It seems like an appropriate end for such a well-thought-out endeavour.
I wish we had a longer "What did you expect from the Season pass, and how did it fulfill that expectation?" kind of question in the survey. Ranking 8 items, 7 of which I had no interest in at all, doesn't quite reflect my overall opinion.
Yeah, that 1-8 was the hardest part of the survey, I just made sure to put the characters as 8 and the webinar at 1. But I did not hold back in the question of if you'd get it again, if you said no they asked why and I gave my very honest opinion. I was not expecting this survey to come, figured all the feedback they'd need was in this thread, but I'm glad I got to give my thoughts again.
Right. I did say no there just to be able to write some thoughts. In reality, it's not a definite no, rather a maybe. I don't regret joining this first season, but I did have higher hopes.
Yeah there should have been a maybe choice