More Non-photorealisitic Renders (NPR III)

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,091

    @Artini You're really getting some excellent NPR visuals out if Unity! I wish Unity wasn't so difficult to learn, as those styles are really neat and I'd love to be able to recreate them. I did dabble in Unity a while back and rage quit. lol It was a bit too complicated for me. laugh

  • csaacsaa Posts: 335
    edited May 16

    Some renders of a bad guy in beanie hat and sun glasses taking aim from behind a military ATV.

    Update: I added a second mook and re-rendered the scenes.

    Thanks for your interest.

    Cheers!

    Mook with Gun Behind ATV | Daz assets and setup | Blender Eevee render | Clip Studio Paint post edit

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 6,818

    3Diva said:

    @Artini You're really getting some excellent NPR visuals out if Unity! I wish Unity wasn't so difficult to learn, as those styles are really neat and I'd love to be able to recreate them. I did dabble in Unity a while back and rage quit. lol It was a bit too complicated for me. laugh

    Thanks a lot.

    Yes, I agree about difficulties with Unity.

    It took me a couple years of experiments to be reach the level, I am already today.

    I am still improving my skills in Unity and recent projects helps me a lot.

     

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    3Diva said:

    vrba79 said:

    This look is really growing on me. I don't even need to post work it.

    Most excellent! Your style is just getting better and better!

    Thanks. I've made a few tweaks to the technique since then. Probably gonna end up using it in my comic.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 6,818
    edited May 16

    Another example renders from Unity

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  • LindaBLindaB Posts: 149

    Is PW toon still available in the store? I did a search that yeilded 37 pages, that's too many to go through. Will pw toon work in the latest version of DAZ?

  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 494
    edited May 17

    Finally have proper time to reedit this scene . pwToon Multipass and Photoshop

    Garage Ruin

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    Giving some of my comic characters the Sketchy treatment, starting with Mysterious's incredibly one-note "super hero" El Punchador.

     

  • csaacsaa Posts: 335

    I saw the latest post at The Commons about SketchyCam Pro. The thread goes way back to 2014 and originally it was all about ToonyCam Pro, a Daz product at one point I think. The sample renders look cool. Thought I should mention it here as SketchyCam Pro may be relevant to folks who are into NPR.

    Cheers!

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992
    edited May 18

    Alas, ToonyCam Pro is with PWToon in discontinued product heaven. I haven't used it in several years, so I don't even know if it still works as intended.

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  • csaacsaa Posts: 335

    vrba79 said:

    Alas, ToonyCam Pro is with PWToon in discontinued product heaven. I haven't used it in several years, so I don't even know if it still works as intended.

    vrba79, if you follow the latest posts on that thread,  zigraphix, the creator of ToonyCam Pro, is trying to put out new products for Daz -- as SketchyCam Pro. By now it should be clear that no single tool gets the job done. Often times we use a number of them and compose the renders for one final image. So I say if zigraphix does succeed, it'll be a welcome new tool for Daz NPR users.

    Cheers!

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    An interesting development.

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    The BG and Joy are both done using different Sketchy settings, but I cheated a little.

    The BG is a seperate render and had to be lit differently. I'm still trying to make sketchy work for indoor scenes, and the best way is the have a massive emssive mesh-based light(in this case the ceiling)

     

  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 426

    Ooh, that looks very nice vrba79! The BG came out great! yes

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    Thanks. Since I primarily make a comic strip, I can live with the background and foreground stuff being rendered in similar-but-different styles.

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992
    edited May 21

    I'll probably just render my BGs as normal Iray renders and just postwork those. That seems to work well.

    Also, when you're listening to David Bowie while making something, there's bound to be some bleed-in.

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  • csaacsaa Posts: 335

    Sgt. Inez: Neither Pause Nor Lamentation | Daz assets and set up | Blender Eevee render | Clip Studio Paint post edit

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 6,818
    edited May 27

    The updated Daz to Unity Bridge - https://www.daz3d.com/daz-to-unity-bridge - is awesome.

    Below is URP scene render from Unity of Catty 8.1 with Beautify 2 applied.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,091

    vrba79 said:

    I'll probably just render my BGs as normal Iray renders and just postwork those. That seems to work well.

    Also, when you're listening to David Bowie while making something, there's bound to be some bleed-in.

    HAHAH He DOES look a little like David Bowie! Very nice! 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,091

    @csaa You're getting some nice manga style effects! How do you like Clip Studio Paint? I've been considering getting it. I have Photoshop already though, so I'm unsure if it would be worth it to get Clip Studio Paint. Do you like the program?

  • csaacsaa Posts: 335

    3Diva said:

    @csaa You're getting some nice manga style effects! How do you like Clip Studio Paint? I've been considering getting it. I have Photoshop already though, so I'm unsure if it would be worth it to get Clip Studio Paint. Do you like the program?

    3Diva,

    In another life my side gig was photography. Back then I paid for Adobe's photography subscription and used Photoshop mainly for photo editing. It was after I stumbled onto 3D that I decided to shop for a more wallet-friendly alternative and canceled the Adobe subscription. (I had to rejig my budget to make room for 3D purchases!) It came down to Krita or CSP. As someone who feels that images are more potent when combined with a good story, creating comics became a natural goal. So Clip Studio Paint came out on top.

    CSP is a tool with only a one-time cost, good documentation and a thriving community of users willing to share. It helps me reach my limits and encourages me to go further. The comics I've banged out aren't top-of-the-line (as a few folks are all too eager to point out) but they not too shabby either! Thanks CSP.

    BTW I put away my photography gear and stopped taking paid comissions. I haven't put my phootography skills into storage though; they've come in handy when creating 3D still images.

    Is CSP a better alternative to Photoshop? I'll take the safe route and say, "It depends on your needs." To achieve a manga aesthetic in an image, Photoshop is just as capable as CSP. But to put out a sequence of images that make up a story, CSP has user-friendly features more suitable to that task.

    I'm still at the early stages of my 3D journey. I haven't had the need to texture/UV paint a 3d model, a task that I've heard Photoshop excels in. As you can see, I also keep my post-editing to a minimum, negating the need for Photoshop effects. Maybe it's just my bias -- between telling a story and creating a stunning image, I'm happy pouring more time and effort into storytelling. In this case, less is more image-wise, I believe. But I know better than to discount what I don't know, what I'm not aware of. Maybe, as I learn more about 3D-making, I'll discover the case for using Photoshop once more. Then I can justify paying the Adobe tax and be content with that decision.

    Cheers!

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,091

    @csaa Thank you very much for the in-depth feedback on your thoughts on CSP vs PS. That's a big help! I'm on Webtoons a lot and many (most?) of the artists that create Webtoons use Clip Studio Paint, so as someone who's also working on making my own comics it's definitely something I've been considering. I do think it would probably be worthwhile for me to get, based on what I've heard from you and a couple of other comic creators. Thank you again! I appreciate the information and your thoughts on the subject. :) 

    Keep up the good work on the comic! yes

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    3Diva said:

    vrba79 said:

    I'll probably just render my BGs as normal Iray renders and just postwork those. That seems to work well.

    Also, when you're listening to David Bowie while making something, there's bound to be some bleed-in.

    HAHAH He DOES look a little like David Bowie! Very nice! 

    When you think about it, Bowie would have fit the anime pretty boy archtype perfectly.

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    3Diva said:

    vrba79 said:

    I'll probably just render my BGs as normal Iray renders and just postwork those. That seems to work well.

    Also, when you're listening to David Bowie while making something, there's bound to be some bleed-in.

    HAHAH He DOES look a little like David Bowie! Very nice! 

    When you think about it, Bowie would have fit the anime pretty boy archtype perfectly.

  • dsum55dsum55 Posts: 23

    vrba79, Did I see correct or am I tripping?!! Did you post a tutorial about your sketchy process I swear I read it on page 19 or 20. did you delete that post? I read it then went back after a few days to read and try your process and now I can not find the post at all. did anyone else see this post? Can you point me to the post? or repost it? I have scketchy and would love to try this. 

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992
  • mindsongmindsong Posts: 1,648

    vrba79 said:

    Here's a cliffnotes version with visuals.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7453236/#Comment_7453236

    Here's a more fleshed out text only version.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7463731/#Comment_7463731

    thanks for doing those. like many, I've also got the 'sketchy' shaders and some projects in mind that I hope will benefit greatly with your tips and shared insights.

    very much appreciated,

    --ms

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 992

    You're welcome! I'm of the opinion that knowledge is meant to be shared, not locked behind a paywall.

  • XxGreyxXXxGreyxX Posts: 13
    Hi,I have a question about render quality. I've noticed that when I render a NPR picture using 3delight, the quality of the initial render of the picture looks good. However, after I export it as a png the quality really dips. Is there a way to improve this? Thank you in advance for any advice.
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