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Can we please get the scantily clad people off the homepage!!!
Posted: 17 October 2012 06:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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JeffG - 17 October 2012 02:26 PM

Some of use Daz products in a work environment and having a rather large woman in an almost nude-colored bikini on the home page makes Daz3d.con NSFW!!!

Geez! If showing skin is that important to you, get a hotel room!


That’s a large woman, all right.  Clearly she and I shop at the same plus-size outlets.


Maybe large-breasted was meant and a word got lost. :D

I know that’s right ., seeming that food has replace sex lately, I can’t even get in my own pants…lol

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Posted: 17 October 2012 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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SickleYield - 17 October 2012 06:21 PM

So wait, the man isn’t a problem, just the woman?

He’s less of a problem.  I know it’s a blatant double standard, but in terms of Safeness For Work, a naked-at-first-glance woman is more likely to get the boss asking awkward questions than a man in boxers.

I’m afraid he’s got you big time there, nudity is nudity and man without a top on is more naked than a woman with a bikini top, like it or not LOL. Beside there is nothing wrong with nudity it’s the mind behind the eyes that turns it into pornography. We’ll see how long the truth lasts.

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Posted: 17 October 2012 06:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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This look’s like a temporary problem anyway, it’s only up because of the DSON release and they will most likely change that when a new item needs to be peddled.

The OP should be patient and it will sort it self out.

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Posted: 17 October 2012 06:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Torby - 17 October 2012 03:44 PM

Or perhaps redressed? wink

Yes!  Precisely!

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Posted: 17 October 2012 07:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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The reason that happens is because there is a large silent majority of customers who want it - including professional customers, not just hobbyists.

It’s a little egocentric to assume that a silent majority reflects your views isn’t it? There seems to be an insult aimed at hobbyists in here somewhere. I think most professional customers will only buy what they need for their task, they’re not going to be swayed by ooh shiny as much as the hobbyist.

A look at advertising in general will indicate pretty clearly that the unclad or lightly clad human body is a common motif.

Just because men like using scantily clad women in everything does not make it right. Sexualisation of women is well studied and discussed topic. Some 3d art seems to extend fetishisation of the female form to the nth degree. I wander into threads and stores and wonder if I haven’t stumbled on a hentai site. In any case I can no longer look at certain sites or threads because of the NSFWness of the content.

I mostly (not entirely, but mostly) make outfits that are more fully-covering, but I also know that every one of those outfits provokes customer messages asking me how to make them look sexier on the figures. 

If you were paying attention, though, there was a bare-chested guy on the front page as well, and DAZ sells a lot of male content that both covers and reveals the body.  It’s not really fair to say it’s all bikini babes.

I was paying attention. However I was distracted by great big boobies while I was looking to get off the splash page. I’m not sure what you’re looking at but there is hardly any male content that reveals the body in the same fashion as women’s clothing. We don’t see men wearing battle armour that has bits cut out to reveal stomachs and wearing high heeled shoes.

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Posted: 17 October 2012 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Posted: 17 October 2012 07:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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anikad - 17 October 2012 07:00 PM

The reason that happens is because there is a large silent majority of customers who want it - including professional customers, not just hobbyists.

It’s a little egocentric to assume that a silent majority reflects your views isn’t it? There seems to be an insult aimed at hobbyists in here somewhere. I think most professional customers will only buy what they need for their task, they’re not going to be swayed by ooh shiny as much as the hobbyist.

No, actually, it’s not.  I’ve been selling clothes for DAZ figures for more than three years now.  Things that are more revealing sell more copies, always, without exception.  My experience is that they don’t necessarily have to be female, though.  My bestseller of all time is a set of four pairs of underwear for Michael 4. 


Nor is an insult to hobbyists intended, I just frequently encounter the idea that it’s the hobbyists doing all the pinup renders and no one else. While the educational customer doesn’t want that, there are certainly others who make a living from their renders that do.

A look at advertising in general will indicate pretty clearly that the unclad or lightly clad human body is a common motif.

Just because men like using scantily clad women in everything does not make it right. Sexualisation of women is well studied and discussed topic. Some 3d art seems to extend fetishisation of the female form to the nth degree. I wander into threads and stores and wonder if I haven’t stumbled on a hentai site. In any case I can no longer look at certain sites or threads because of the NSFWness of the content.


I agree that it happens.  I agree that the lack of equality is not right.  And I, incidentally, am female.  But aesthetic use of the body is not invariably pornographic.  Dove uses mostly naked women in ads that emphasize that women come in different shapes and sizes, and those ads are pitched to women.  Athletic wear ads often feature mostly naked sweaty men, and those ads are pitched to men.  These are the kind of applications I would hope to see my underwear and other nudity-friendly products used for.  I know they also get used for woman-hating porn, but I can’t help that.

If you were paying attention, though, there was a bare-chested guy on the front page as well, and DAZ sells a lot of male content that both covers and reveals the body.  It’s not really fair to say it’s all bikini babes.

I was paying attention. However I was distracted by great big boobies while I was looking to get off the splash page. I’m not sure what you’re looking at but there is hardly any male content that reveals the body in the same fashion as women’s clothing. We don’t see men wearing battle armour that has bits cut out to reveal stomachs and wearing high heeled shoes.

Dark Priest? The Faerie set with the tight shorts?  Dragonlord (oh look, a big chunk of the right side is missing over the chest)?  Jepe’s Body Jewels?  There’s an entire huge bundle of M5 armors that are completely eye candy.  Our usual depiction of male sexuality in “armor” is more aggressive and less colorful than our depiction of female, and I think that’s unfortunate, but it’s not as if it’s not there. (*Cough* And it’s not as if I don’t own most if these.  The body jewels are super cute.)

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Posted: 17 October 2012 07:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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It’s all some long dead Greek (or is it Assyrian…some ancient civilization, anyway) guy’s fault…carving all those scantily or less clad statues…

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Posted: 17 October 2012 11:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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JeffG - 17 October 2012 02:26 PM

Some of use Daz products in a work environment and having a rather large woman in an almost nude-colored bikini on the home page makes Daz3d.con NSFW!!!

Seeing “a rather large woman in an almost nude-colored bikini on the home page” in your work environment isn’t DAZ’s fault, it’s YOURS. Bookmark the Shop page instead of the Home page. Problem fixed. Non issue.

 

JeffG - 17 October 2012 02:26 PM

Geez! If showing skin is that important to you, get a hotel room!

Obviously you live in a very cold climate where people don’t wear bathing suits. wink


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Posted: 18 October 2012 05:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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I think the bikini color choice was unfortunate, given the size of the image and it’s placement on the front page. I note that the guy is wearing shorts in a color that contrasts with his skin.

That said, I very rarely go to the front page of the store, because there’s not usually anything there I want to see. I have the “New Releases” page bookmarked. But I did happen to land on the front page recently while at work. I work for a college and we use DS to generate some website illustrations. (Someday I should post those pictures of brains with the Emotiguy sneakers and hard hats….) anyhow, when I landed on the home page, I did click off it in a hurry. I didn’t want to have to explain why the site I’ve recommended we use to generate pictures of college students in classes has a picture of a woman in a flesh-colored bikini and makeup on the front page. oh oh

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Posted: 18 October 2012 07:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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JeffG - 17 October 2012 02:26 PM

Some of use Daz products in a work environment and having a rather large woman in an almost nude-colored bikini on the home page makes Daz3d.con NSFW!!!

Geez! If showing skin is that important to you, get a hotel room!

Welcome to DAZ, today’s special titillation.

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Posted: 18 October 2012 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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I agree with JeffG. The home page image needs to be replaced even though it’s a beautiful render of two great characters.  In my opinion it does not give a very good first impression to ALL visitors therefore doesn’t belong on the front page. Furthermore, I find it very slow to load and takes longer to click off of it.

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Posted: 18 October 2012 07:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Coldrake - 17 October 2012 11:07 PM

Obviously you live in a very cold climate where people don’t wear bathing suits. wink
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Well, where I live the temperature is currently not very bathing-friendly. I donĀ“t know about Utah where DAZ resides, but here Vicky would have to wear long trousers and a pullover at least, she would not dare out in just a bathing suit in fear of catching serious cold. tongue rolleye

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Posted: 18 October 2012 07:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I admit, I also landed on front page while being at work - and due to my computer screen resolution the image of Mike and Vicky was really BIG. Not to mention that in the skin-coloured bathing suit Vicky looks like she is nude at first sight. And Mike does not wear much either. I was SO lucky my boss or colleagues did not see it, they would think I am looking at porn pages… red face

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Posted: 18 October 2012 07:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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I teasingly complained when the new homepage went up not because of the skin colored swimsuit Vicky is wearing, but because Mike has some notable nipples.

But at the same time I’m glad they haven’t got all scared and took it away. What I do want them to get rid of is the intro flash, that was my main complaint.  I should not have to skip the intro 5 times a day. and for those saying you can set a different page as your default that doesn’t help me because I need to log into the store to log into the forums and everytime I do it sends me back to the homepage where I need to skip the intro.

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