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Show Us Your Bryce Renders! Part 2
Posted: 24 October 2012 01:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 106 ]
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Thanks David for the tut it was interesting and great to learn something new, I have a question for you could you direct me to a tut for masking objs ext….......and if you could also show me how to fix it in Photoshop if possible

Let me know the specifics of what you want to achieve and I’ll see what I can rustle up come the weekend.  Kinda stretched this week, but come weekend I should be able to do something.  Maybe a short video if it is somewhat involved.  So if you can describe what you want to do, so I can offer as complete an answer as possible.

Thanks David, well the best way is to explain when i did my last image Frac-man the background reflected the sky on my black background plan so i did not get a pure black background but did not want to change the sky setting as that changed the effect of the image and i thought maybe a mask may do the trick….....having said that i have no clue how to do that or what’s evolved, gosh I hope this all makes sense.

Now how i got round this…........ i put flat black mat spheres behind the objs, it did the trick but that to me is a lot of work when there could be and easer way around it ..........please take your time no hurry

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Posted: 24 October 2012 03:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 107 ]
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Achieving symmetry this way is quite nice, so thanks for that Silverdali. I had always wondered if there was a way in Bryce of symmetricizing an object (I still don’t know as I’m a new user of it), however, doing so, as you show, symmetrical objects can be obtained (my experiment below) easily.

One thing, however, that is required is that the background sky has to be symmetrical-like also, because if you have varied-sized clouds in the background, then the reflection wouldn’t work as the reflected cloud may not match up in line with the real cloud. Another thing also is that the reflecting plane should reach beyond a little behind the camera, and that the camera’s position (horizontal-wise) is important, too (vertical position of the camera doesn’t matter).

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Posted: 24 October 2012 05:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 108 ]
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Another symmetry tutorial
http://texmanson.deviantart.com/art/A-Basic-Symmetry-Tutorial-153647728

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Posted: 24 October 2012 05:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 109 ]
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Aha, thanks on that Kerya…so it is possible to create symmetrical objects in Bryce - I wasn’t really sure as mentioned (I could so in Blender okay, but not sure with Bryce).

Thanks again, and will prove useful in future projects.
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Posted: 24 October 2012 05:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 110 ]
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AH yes, Flip X is such a useful command.  I use it a lot if I have vehicles in a render, as I live in the UK and most car models are made the US way, so the steering wheel is on the wrong side. rolleyes

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Posted: 24 October 2012 06:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 111 ]
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Thanks also, Chohole…I’m learning more about Bryce as I go along, which I suspect will never end as it’s so packed with stuff.

Jay

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Posted: 24 October 2012 10:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 112 ]
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@silverdali - Frac-man is another of your beautiful renders.

I don’t know whether you’re looking for this (see picture below). You can select the object(s) you want to mask out and they get rendered white, everything else black. You can use this mask to combine the object(s) with another backdrop in a graphics application. I usually blur the mask a tad and combine in HDRShop using the Calculate option with the A*C+B*(1-C) operator. In A and B are the main image and the new backdrop, in C the mask.

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Posted: 24 October 2012 02:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 113 ]
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Jamahoney - 24 October 2012 03:57 AM

Achieving symmetry this way is quite nice, so thanks for that Silverdali. I had always wondered if there was a way in Bryce of symmetricizing an object (I still don’t know as I’m a new user of it), however, doing so, as you show, symmetrical objects can be obtained (my experiment below) easily.

One thing, however, that is required is that the background sky has to be symmetrical-like also, because if you have varied-sized clouds in the background, then the reflection wouldn’t work as the reflected cloud may not match up in line with the real cloud. Another thing also is that the reflecting plane should reach beyond a little behind the camera, and that the camera’s position (horizontal-wise) is important, too (vertical position of the camera doesn’t matter).

Jay

@Jamahoney thanks for the tut, that’s how its done, but what i also did was put another plane behind the objs to cut out the sky but keep the sky reflections on the obj which does have its draw backs as it does not always block out all the light from the haze/fog plane, so what happens is the bottom half of the black back ground takes on the a slight color which is annoying when you want black only. So my answer to that was to create a flat black sphere behind the objs and in front of the black background plane which did work.  Now having said that maybe what i should have done is just have the sphere behind the objs, , i shall check that one out.  Funny how things work out when you are looking for the answer LOL have a great day ................. p.s. I did learn something else from your tut put reflective plane a little behind the camera great advise thanks Jamahoney

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Posted: 24 October 2012 02:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 114 ]
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Horo - 24 October 2012 10:36 AM

@silverdali - Frac-man is another of your beautiful renders.

I don’t know whether you’re looking for this (see picture below). You can select the object(s) you want to mask out and they get rendered white, everything else black. You can use this mask to combine the object(s) with another backdrop in a graphics application. I usually blur the mask a tad and combine in HDRShop using the Calculate option with the A*C+B*(1-C) operator. In A and B are the main image and the new backdrop, in C the mask.

@ Horo yes what you are saying above , so maybe what i need is how to use it in Bryce and how to apply it in another application like photoshop CS4 gosh I am no tech head but I am willing to learn.  I am a visual person so word explanations leave me cold is there a tut that shows me how to do it, thanks Horo for your time its appreciated

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Posted: 24 October 2012 06:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 115 ]
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Something different, firstly if this image offends please delete it, this image took me weeks and various changes to get it how i wanted

live for today and tomorrow will take care of itself

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“?‘S it all mean” here is a link to my image, I was not sure about it no hard feelings http://silverdali.deviantart.com/art/s-it-all-mean-334195621?q=gallery:silverdali&qo=0

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Posted: 25 October 2012 04:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 116 ]
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Sorry, silverdali, yes unfortunately the Forum team has decided that the image doesn’t comply with current restrictions, due to the lack of content filters on the forum.

Do you perhaps have an account anywhere like Deviant Art, where you could post with the nudity filter applied, and then post a link to the image here.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 04:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 117 ]
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Got to see your work before removal, Silver, and simply incredible. As to removal of it from the forum itself…SIGH. Yes, I know, the moderators have their reasons, and the rules are highlighted, however, I never agreed with them back then when first introduced, and still don’t agree with them today.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 05:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 118 ]
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“?‘S it all mean” here is a link to my image, I was not sure about it no hard feelings http://silverdali.deviantart.com/art/s-it-all-mean-334195621?q=gallery:silverdali&qo=0

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Posted: 25 October 2012 05:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 119 ]
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Jamahoney - 25 October 2012 04:49 AM

Got to see your work before removal, Silver, and simply incredible. As to removal of it from the forum itself…SIGH. Yes, I know, the moderators have their reasons, and the rules are highlighted, however, I never agreed with them back then when first introduced, and still don’t agree with them today.

Jay

thanks not to worry these things are set to try us here is my flickr site if you wish to see more of my work http://www.flickr.com/photos/33235233@N05/sets/72157625049244007/

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Posted: 25 October 2012 05:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 120 ]
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Been experimenting around with trees lately…especially for this time of year, and Bryce works well with them. BTW, character in first work is not nude! Ooooohhh, that’s gotta hurt the moderators..heheee smile
Title: “Autumn”

Silver...you have support here whenever you need it. Just checked your Flickr site now, and incredible works in first few pages. I’m just heading out the door, so will look at the other pages later in the day.

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