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Posted: 11 October 2012 11:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Windows 7. The first crashed uninstall did manage somehow to wipe out the .dat file for the uninstaller, so on any subsequent attempts to install the uninstall failed again, this time erroring on the lack of the .dat file. And every time the uninstall fails for any reason, the installer itself crashes the moment control is returned to it by my acknowledging the failure of the uninstall.

<Sigh>

This whole DAZ install/uninstall method is so unrobust I could cry. It is just so pathetic.

There should be an option to install without uninstalling, to deal with cases when the uninstall fails.

And the installer should not crash immediately following the failure of an uninstall.

This really isn’t rocket science. Just basic, for heaven’s sake. Build in some flipping robustness. Don’t just assume every step will succeed so when one step fails the whole thing goes tits up.

This happened, and I reported it, virtually every DS 4 beta before the first DS4 public release. And since the public release and my demotion to the ranks of the plebs, it’s kept on happening every public version and public beta of DS 4 and DS4.5 too.

Hello? Anyone listening? Well, I was never listened to as a tester, all my open bug reports were closed awhile ago even though I kept adding notes the bugs were still there (and no, I am NOT going to type them all out again in a new bug tracker - typing hurts, and you could have damn well migrated the open bugs, or checked them yourselves instead of just closing them), so I don’t suppose I’ll be listened to as a mere customer.

Yes, I’ve got it to install by going into my Program Files and manually deleting the broken uninstaller .exe. A user SHOULD NOT NEED TO DO THAT.

Then the installer ran to completion - but threw up an error message about a problem installing the CMS.

AGAIN.

JUST LIKE LAST BETA INSTALL AND THE ONE BEFORE.

Good thing i don’t use the CMS - though ti would be nice to have it just in case I ever want it.

It would be REALLY NICE if DAZ actually spent some time fixing things, instead of just releasing new things (some broken) while leaving all the broken stuff unfixed. It would be ESPECIALLY NICE if, for the first time ever in all the beta and public versions of DS 4 and DS 4.5 JUST ONE would actually install without crashes of installers and uninstallers and error messages about parts of the install process and me needing to go rooting through the Program Files folders to find and delete things just to get the bloody thing to install.

Crazed.  I got the same problem.  It appears to be an issue with the Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe that was installed with the 4.5.0 release.  Windows reports “...is not a valid Win32 application” when trying to run it directly. 

After attempting to run the 4.5.1.6 installer, DAZ studio no longer even appears in the Control Panel list of installed programs (registry now screwed up?).  Not possible to uninstall using any standard method that I can see.  This is so pathetic and also so typical of DAZ.  Before trying anything else, would be useful to find out what others have successfully done to get this to work.

Some additional information.  Just information and I don’t recommend anyone else do this as I may regret my haste.  In any case, I renamed the Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe in Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\Uninstallers to Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe.bak and re-ran the 4.5.1.6 installer.  It installed.  However, since an uninstaller did not run for the previous version, I do not know what impact this may have.  I will probably run the uninstall and then re-install before proceeding. 

Previous post indicates that this problem was reported during beta testing.  If it is the same problem, there is simply no valid excuse for not fixing it prior to the general release of 4.5.  Period.

One final bit of information here.  This is what I have done:

1.  Tried installing 4.5.1.6 but the process fails during the uninstall.  Narrowed this down to a problem with Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe in Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\Uninstallers.  Tried to re-install 4.5.0 but that failed, as well.

2.  Renamed Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe to Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe.bak and re-ran the 4.5.1.6 installer.  Studio installed but without an uninstall of 4.5.0.

3.  Re-ran the 4.5.1.6 installer again.  This time the entire install worked without issue.

4.  Ran installers for 14812_GenesisStarterEssentials_1.6_trx.exe, 14812_GenesisStarterEssentialsPoserCF_1.6_dpc.exe, DS4_3DBridge_1.2.1.6_Win64.exe, DS4_Decimator_1.3.1.6_Win64.exe, DS4_GoZ_1.2.1.6_Win64.exe, DSON_Importer_for_Poser_1.0.0.9_Win64.exe.  All of them installed without issue.

5.  Ran DAZ studio and verified that 4.5.1.6 is the installed version.  It is and everything appears to be in order.

Again, this is for information only.  I do not recommend that anyone else experiencing this issue try the same thing.  I do not believe this is a system issue.  I believe this is an issue with the 4.5.0 installer combined with a problem in with the 4.5.1.6 installer (in that it does not properly account for the issue with the 4.5.0 installer). 

 

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Posted: 11 October 2012 11:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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DS 4.5.1.6 runs in Wine with no problems.

Kendall

Is that with or without the redraw ‘fix’?

The redraw fix is a Wine internal problem.  Hopefully, it’ll be resolved in the update that is supposed to be released today.  Also, those not running the latest Wine Dev Releases won’t encounter it at all.  grin  In this case, the GDI fixes are new and are unneeded for OpenGL based applications.  Certain games weren’t so lucky.

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kitakoredaz - 11 October 2012 10:47 PM

kendalsea, ,blank stare

I have no idea to talk about compatibility with so many online games and 3D tools when I talk about one online game and that forum.
there seems no difference when talk about daz studio and video card

I just want to know I can use newest daz studio by my PC ATI graphic card with driver.
if I can not, want to know what driver is best. or I must need change the graphic card for new daz studio.
if I want

actually I could Open GL render (but seldom I use it, so it is not so important for me)
,with my ATI graphic card in 4.0.3. I had not changed my graphic card, only updated daz studio and driver.

and daz can announce the compatibility with graphic card, if daz know whati is the true user service.

is there any discribe about compatibility with ATI graphic card ?

Now I become angry about this problem, so I decide my all anger throw to AMD support vampire

Technically, your problem is entirely AMD’s fault.  It’s been known for a while that their OpenGL support is not the best. 

You can try rolling back the driver to a version that did work for 4.0 (probably two or three versions ago).  If you were involved in computer games, you’d find that this a very common issue. 

 

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Posted: 11 October 2012 11:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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kitakoredaz - 11 October 2012 10:47 PM

kendalsea, ,blank stare

I have no idea to talk about compatibility with so many online games and 3D tools when I talk about one online game and that forum.
there seems no difference when talk about daz studio and video card

I just want to know I can use newest daz studio by my PC ATI graphic card with driver.
if I can not, want to know what driver is best. or I must need change the graphic card for new daz studio.
if I want

actually I could Open GL render (but seldom I use it, so it is not so important for me)
,with my ATI graphic card in 4.0.3. I had not changed my graphic card, only updated daz studio and driver.

and daz can announce the compatibility with graphic card, if daz know whati is the true user service.

is there any discribe about compatibility with ATI graphic card ?

Now I become angry about this problem, so I decide my all anger throw to AMD support vampire

I haven’t had a chance to see if rolling back resolves the issue with the ATI drivers.  I mentioned the other software only as a reference that this is not a DS issue specifically, but one that affects many.

Probably the best thing to do right now would be to search on the terms referenced before and see if anyone has a known workaround.  Maybe a previous driver version, or a hotfix, or a registry setting.

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Posted: 12 October 2012 12:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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DavidGB - 11 October 2012 05:31 PM

Windows 7. The first crashed uninstall did manage somehow to wipe out the .dat file for the uninstaller, so on any subsequent attempts to install the uninstall failed again, this time erroring on the lack of the .dat file. And every time the uninstall fails for any reason, the installer itself crashes the moment control is returned to it by my acknowledging the failure of the uninstall.

<Sigh>

This whole DAZ install/uninstall method is so unrobust I could cry. It is just so pathetic.

There should be an option to install without uninstalling, to deal with cases when the uninstall fails.

And the installer should not crash immediately following the failure of an uninstall.

This really isn’t rocket science. Just basic, for heaven’s sake. Build in some flipping robustness. Don’t just assume every step will succeed so when one step fails the whole thing goes tits up.

This happened, and I reported it, virtually every DS 4 beta before the first DS4 public release. And since the public release and my demotion to the ranks of the plebs, it’s kept on happening every public version and public beta of DS 4 and DS4.5 too.

Hello? Anyone listening? Well, I was never listened to as a tester, all my open bug reports were closed awhile ago even though I kept adding notes the bugs were still there (and no, I am NOT going to type them all out again in a new bug tracker - typing hurts, and you could have damn well migrated the open bugs, or checked them yourselves instead of just closing them), so I don’t suppose I’ll be listened to as a mere customer.

Yes, I’ve got it to install by going into my Program Files and manually deleting the broken uninstaller .exe. A user SHOULD NOT NEED TO DO THAT.

Then the installer ran to completion - but threw up an error message about a problem installing the CMS.

AGAIN.

JUST LIKE LAST BETA INSTALL AND THE ONE BEFORE.

Good thing i don’t use the CMS - though ti would be nice to have it just in case I ever want it.

It would be REALLY NICE if DAZ actually spent some time fixing things, instead of just releasing new things (some broken) while leaving all the broken stuff unfixed. It would be ESPECIALLY NICE if, for the first time ever in all the beta and public versions of DS 4 and DS 4.5 JUST ONE would actually install without crashes of installers and uninstallers and error messages about parts of the install process and me needing to go rooting through the Program Files folders to find and delete things just to get the bloody thing to install.

Crazed.  I got the same problem.  It appears to be an issue with the Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe that was installed with the 4.5.0 release.  Windows reports “...is not a valid Win32 application” when trying to run it directly. 

After attempting to run the 4.5.1.6 installer, DAZ studio no longer even appears in the Control Panel list of installed programs (registry now screwed up?).  Not possible to uninstall using any standard method that I can see.  This is so pathetic and also so typical of DAZ.  Before trying anything else, would be useful to find out what others have successfully done to get this to work.

I’ve installed 4.5.1.6 on numerous machines: XP/32, XP/64, Vista/32, Vista/64, Win7/32,Win7/64,MacOS and Linux/Wine.  No problems.  Start the investigation on a Windows problem on your machine.  It is likely that you have something interfering with the process.

Kendall

I have installed hundreds of applications on various machines over the years.  Very rarely had any issue with an installer.  However, in every case, it came down to an issue with the installer and not with the system. 

I have installed all of the DS4 updates over the past year without issue until now.  At this point, I am quite confident This is a DAZ problem and not a Windows problem.

In over 30 years of developing software, one of the things that I know from experience is that just because it works on system A and not on system B, does not automatically mean that root cause lies with system B.  It means that the software process better be robust enough to determine exactly what the root cause is when reported.  Too often, wishful thinking combined with “...well, it works on my machine so the problem must be with yours…” will result in defects getting overlooked.

As you can see above, I have installed the 4.5.1.6 on many different machines, running different OS’s and having differing hardware.  This is not a System A vs System B issue.  I have over a dozen installs here, on various hardware.  I also have environments DESIGNED to cause problems with software.  In my 30+ years of software development I have experienced that the Windows environment (or ecosystem if you so prefer) is the most common reason for software failures.  Especially when the issues affect a small subset of installs.  And this issue affects a *small* subset of systems.

Some have determined that if they manually perform the actions, things proceed to completion.  This points directly at something within the environment interfering with the process.  Secondarily, the installer being used is a commercial offering used in a huge number of installs globally.  DAZ has little control over the failure recovery processes in an installer such as this.  Maybe they should follow Adobe’s lead and require that ALL firewall/malware programs be disengaged before installation.

Kendall

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Posted: 12 October 2012 01:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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DavidGB - 11 October 2012 05:31 PM

Windows 7. The first crashed uninstall did manage somehow to wipe out the .dat file for the uninstaller, so on any subsequent attempts to install the uninstall failed again, this time erroring on the lack of the .dat file. And every time the uninstall fails for any reason, the installer itself crashes the moment control is returned to it by my acknowledging the failure of the uninstall.

<Sigh>

This whole DAZ install/uninstall method is so unrobust I could cry. It is just so pathetic.

There should be an option to install without uninstalling, to deal with cases when the uninstall fails.

And the installer should not crash immediately following the failure of an uninstall.

This really isn’t rocket science. Just basic, for heaven’s sake. Build in some flipping robustness. Don’t just assume every step will succeed so when one step fails the whole thing goes tits up.

This happened, and I reported it, virtually every DS 4 beta before the first DS4 public release. And since the public release and my demotion to the ranks of the plebs, it’s kept on happening every public version and public beta of DS 4 and DS4.5 too.

Hello? Anyone listening? Well, I was never listened to as a tester, all my open bug reports were closed awhile ago even though I kept adding notes the bugs were still there (and no, I am NOT going to type them all out again in a new bug tracker - typing hurts, and you could have damn well migrated the open bugs, or checked them yourselves instead of just closing them), so I don’t suppose I’ll be listened to as a mere customer.

Yes, I’ve got it to install by going into my Program Files and manually deleting the broken uninstaller .exe. A user SHOULD NOT NEED TO DO THAT.

Then the installer ran to completion - but threw up an error message about a problem installing the CMS.

AGAIN.

JUST LIKE LAST BETA INSTALL AND THE ONE BEFORE.

Good thing i don’t use the CMS - though ti would be nice to have it just in case I ever want it.

It would be REALLY NICE if DAZ actually spent some time fixing things, instead of just releasing new things (some broken) while leaving all the broken stuff unfixed. It would be ESPECIALLY NICE if, for the first time ever in all the beta and public versions of DS 4 and DS 4.5 JUST ONE would actually install without crashes of installers and uninstallers and error messages about parts of the install process and me needing to go rooting through the Program Files folders to find and delete things just to get the bloody thing to install.

Crazed.  I got the same problem.  It appears to be an issue with the Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe that was installed with the 4.5.0 release.  Windows reports “...is not a valid Win32 application” when trying to run it directly. 

After attempting to run the 4.5.1.6 installer, DAZ studio no longer even appears in the Control Panel list of installed programs (registry now screwed up?).  Not possible to uninstall using any standard method that I can see.  This is so pathetic and also so typical of DAZ.  Before trying anything else, would be useful to find out what others have successfully done to get this to work.

I’ve installed 4.5.1.6 on numerous machines: XP/32, XP/64, Vista/32, Vista/64, Win7/32,Win7/64,MacOS and Linux/Wine.  No problems.  Start the investigation on a Windows problem on your machine.  It is likely that you have something interfering with the process.

Kendall

I have installed hundreds of applications on various machines over the years.  Very rarely had any issue with an installer.  However, in every case, it came down to an issue with the installer and not with the system. 

I have installed all of the DS4 updates over the past year without issue until now.  At this point, I am quite confident This is a DAZ problem and not a Windows problem.

In over 30 years of developing software, one of the things that I know from experience is that just because it works on system A and not on system B, does not automatically mean that root cause lies with system B.  It means that the software process better be robust enough to determine exactly what the root cause is when reported.  Too often, wishful thinking combined with “...well, it works on my machine so the problem must be with yours…” will result in defects getting overlooked.

As you can see above, I have installed the 4.5.1.6 on many different machines, running different OS’s and having differing hardware.  This is not a System A vs System B issue.  I have over a dozen installs here, on various hardware.  I also have environments DESIGNED to cause problems with software.  In my 30+ years of software development I have experienced that the Windows environment (or ecosystem if you so prefer) is the most common reason for software failures.  Especially when the issues affect a small subset of installs.  And this issue affects a *small* subset of systems.

Some have determined that if they manually perform the actions, things proceed to completion.  This points directly at something within the environment interfering with the process.  Secondarily, the installer being used is a commercial offering used in a huge number of installs globally.  DAZ has little control over the failure recovery processes in an installer such as this.  Maybe they should follow Adobe’s lead and require that ALL firewall/malware programs be disengaged before installation.

Kendall

I don’t buy this for a second.  I have provided you with plenty of information that clearly points to a problem with the DAZ installer(s).  Myself and others mentioned that the manual adjustment was to remove the DAZ uninstaller before running the install.  Just so you know, I not only disabled all firewall/malware programs, but I also tried bringing down any process not necessary to the system running.

I also do not buy the argument about Windows being the cause of software failures.  Rather, it is application developers that do not understand how to develop for Windows that is typically the problem.  Since 3.1 there have been many, many applications that run just fine under Windows primarily because the developers of these applications know what they are doing.  Of course there are system variances (especially with Windows) and a well-developed application will be tested for and will account for the vast majority of these.

We will see how small the subset is when people start installing this software on a large scale.  This reminds me of the problem that many of us had with converting .daz to .duf and deformations in Genesis characters.  This was originally reported during the beta.  But there were those who claimed it worked fine on their system, therefore, it was likely a problem with individual system(s).  I notice this problem is now fixed in the new version of DS4.5

 

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DavidGB - 11 October 2012 05:31 PM

Windows 7. The first crashed uninstall did manage somehow to wipe out the .dat file for the uninstaller, so on any subsequent attempts to install the uninstall failed again, this time erroring on the lack of the .dat file. And every time the uninstall fails for any reason, the installer itself crashes the moment control is returned to it by my acknowledging the failure of the uninstall.

<Sigh>

This whole DAZ install/uninstall method is so unrobust I could cry. It is just so pathetic.

There should be an option to install without uninstalling, to deal with cases when the uninstall fails.

And the installer should not crash immediately following the failure of an uninstall.

This really isn’t rocket science. Just basic, for heaven’s sake. Build in some flipping robustness. Don’t just assume every step will succeed so when one step fails the whole thing goes tits up.

This happened, and I reported it, virtually every DS 4 beta before the first DS4 public release. And since the public release and my demotion to the ranks of the plebs, it’s kept on happening every public version and public beta of DS 4 and DS4.5 too.

Hello? Anyone listening? Well, I was never listened to as a tester, all my open bug reports were closed awhile ago even though I kept adding notes the bugs were still there (and no, I am NOT going to type them all out again in a new bug tracker - typing hurts, and you could have damn well migrated the open bugs, or checked them yourselves instead of just closing them), so I don’t suppose I’ll be listened to as a mere customer.

Yes, I’ve got it to install by going into my Program Files and manually deleting the broken uninstaller .exe. A user SHOULD NOT NEED TO DO THAT.

Then the installer ran to completion - but threw up an error message about a problem installing the CMS.

AGAIN.

JUST LIKE LAST BETA INSTALL AND THE ONE BEFORE.

Good thing i don’t use the CMS - though ti would be nice to have it just in case I ever want it.

It would be REALLY NICE if DAZ actually spent some time fixing things, instead of just releasing new things (some broken) while leaving all the broken stuff unfixed. It would be ESPECIALLY NICE if, for the first time ever in all the beta and public versions of DS 4 and DS 4.5 JUST ONE would actually install without crashes of installers and uninstallers and error messages about parts of the install process and me needing to go rooting through the Program Files folders to find and delete things just to get the bloody thing to install.

Crazed.  I got the same problem.  It appears to be an issue with the Remove-DAZStudio4_Win64.exe that was installed with the 4.5.0 release.  Windows reports “...is not a valid Win32 application” when trying to run it directly. 

After attempting to run the 4.5.1.6 installer, DAZ studio no longer even appears in the Control Panel list of installed programs (registry now screwed up?).  Not possible to uninstall using any standard method that I can see.  This is so pathetic and also so typical of DAZ.  Before trying anything else, would be useful to find out what others have successfully done to get this to work.

I’ve installed 4.5.1.6 on numerous machines: XP/32, XP/64, Vista/32, Vista/64, Win7/32,Win7/64,MacOS and Linux/Wine.  No problems.  Start the investigation on a Windows problem on your machine.  It is likely that you have something interfering with the process.

Kendall

I have installed hundreds of applications on various machines over the years.  Very rarely had any issue with an installer.  However, in every case, it came down to an issue with the installer and not with the system. 

I have installed all of the DS4 updates over the past year without issue until now.  At this point, I am quite confident This is a DAZ problem and not a Windows problem.

In over 30 years of developing software, one of the things that I know from experience is that just because it works on system A and not on system B, does not automatically mean that root cause lies with system B.  It means that the software process better be robust enough to determine exactly what the root cause is when reported.  Too often, wishful thinking combined with “...well, it works on my machine so the problem must be with yours…” will result in defects getting overlooked.

As you can see above, I have installed the 4.5.1.6 on many different machines, running different OS’s and having differing hardware.  This is not a System A vs System B issue.  I have over a dozen installs here, on various hardware.  I also have environments DESIGNED to cause problems with software.  In my 30+ years of software development I have experienced that the Windows environment (or ecosystem if you so prefer) is the most common reason for software failures.  Especially when the issues affect a small subset of installs.  And this issue affects a *small* subset of systems.

Some have determined that if they manually perform the actions, things proceed to completion.  This points directly at something within the environment interfering with the process.  Secondarily, the installer being used is a commercial offering used in a huge number of installs globally.  DAZ has little control over the failure recovery processes in an installer such as this.  Maybe they should follow Adobe’s lead and require that ALL firewall/malware programs be disengaged before installation.

Kendall

I don’t buy this for a second.  I have provided you with plenty of information that clearly points to a problem with the DAZ installer(s).  Myself and others mentioned that the manual adjustment was to remove the DAZ uninstaller before running the install.  Just so you know, I not only disabled all firewall/malware programs, but I also tried bringing down any process not necessary to the system running.

I also do not buy the argument about Windows being the cause of software failures.  Rather, it is application developers that do not understand how to develop for Windows that is typically the problem.  Since 3.1 there have been many, many applications that run just fine under Windows primarily because the developers of these applications know what they are doing.  Of course there are system variances (especially with Windows) and a well-developed application will be tested for and will account for the vast majority of these.

We will see how small the subset is when people start installing this software on a large scale.  This reminds me of the problem that many of us had with converting .daz to .duf and deformations in Genesis characters.  This was originally reported during the beta.  But there were those who claimed it worked fine on their system, therefore, it was likely a problem with individual system(s).  I notice this problem is now fixed in the new version of DS4.5

 

You mis-read what I stated, see the bolded text.  I said the Windows ENVIRONMENT.  A clean, well maintained Windows environment works fine—as I have demonstrated above.  Most Windows Environments are not even close to clean, nor well maintained.  Most are riddled with user created errors, misinstalled software, unsuccessful malware removals, misbehaving drivers, and so called “malicious software monitors” that try to compensate for a missing security system.

Obviously our experiences are different.

Kendall

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Posted: 12 October 2012 05:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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I am having major problems with this version. autofit is not working anymore it seems.

The viewport is NOT matching the renders.  My viewport controls keep disappearing and i canclick on where they are supposed to be and it works but they’re invisible.

I change the render settings to be a square, I want a square frame in teh view port so i can set up my scene in that square. NOTHING IS HAPPENING.  I can’t use this version, its too buggy.  Is there a link to the older one I can use???

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Posted: 12 October 2012 06:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Well as I have render problems with the current version i think I will stay put. I don’t need to get more problems.

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DS 4.5.1.6 runs in Wine with no problems.

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As mentioned in another thread, I’m considering loading Ubuntu or one of the similar distributions of Linux on a machine here.  I don’t recall if WINE is part of them but I think it’s not.  How much of an issue would it be to load onto one of those distros?

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Kludge - 12 October 2012 09:06 AM
Kendall Sears - 11 October 2012 08:58 PM

DS 4.5.1.6 runs in Wine with no problems.

Kendall

As mentioned in another thread, I’m considering loading Ubuntu or one of the similar distributions of Linux on a machine here.  I don’t recall if WINE is part of them but I think it’s not.  How much of an issue would it be to load onto one of those distros?

Ubuntu is a debian based distro, so it uses a package manager.  Wine install is relatively painless.  Similarly, Fedora is a RPM distro and also uses a package manager.  Wine install in Fedora is also painless.

Make sure that you load the Wine i686 packages, not the x86_64.  The 64bit support in Wine is starting to work, however, it is not ready for general use.  The Wine/32 (i686) support is pretty much flawless for DS and Poser.

EDIT:  All of this is for the non-developer packages.

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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belovedalia - 12 October 2012 05:25 AM

I am having major problems with this version. autofit is not working anymore it seems.

The viewport is NOT matching the renders.  My viewport controls keep disappearing and i canclick on where they are supposed to be and it works but they’re invisible.

I change the render settings to be a square, I want a square frame in teh view port so i can set up my scene in that square. NOTHING IS HAPPENING.  I can’t use this version, its too buggy.  Is there a link to the older one I can use???

What OS?  What video card?

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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For what it is worth…

This version is significantly faster in most respects than the previous 4.5rc which was significantly faster than 4.0.  The lagginess in reading large runtimes for the first time in the Content Library tab has been lessened (but not eliminated).

The smoothing and collision code seems to complete faster and work more completely.  An outfit from 9mbi that has always given problems until Collision Level 10, now works at level 5.  This significantly speeds up redraws.

Autofit “fits” incoming clothing much faster and does a better job.  I haven’t autofitted shoes.

Plugins (including some betas) all work with no problem.

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Posted: 12 October 2012 01:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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OK, I just reset my downloads and grabbed the 32-bit and 64-bit of the new version.

Question—Do I need to re-download the 3D Photoshop Bridge, the GoZ Bridge, Decimator and the Starter Essentials again?  Anyone know if those have had updates as well?

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Posted: 12 October 2012 01:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Miss B - 12 October 2012 01:30 PM

OK, I just reset my downloads and grabbed the 32-bit and 64-bit of the new version.

Question—Do I need to re-download the 3D Photoshop Bridge, the GoZ Bridge, Decimator and the Starter Essentials again?  Anyone know if those have had updates as well?

They haven’t changed since 4.5.0.114, so if you previously had that or 4.5.0.137 you don’t need those.

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