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Posted: 12 October 2012 04:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 76 ]
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K T Ong - 08 October 2012 10:25 AM

Considering that there’s a long thread here on rendering superheroes, I thought I might start another one in which we just talk about them for the fun of it. Let’s just discuss the following:

1.  Which (or what sort of) superheroes/superheroines appeal the most to you, and why?

2.  Which (or what sort of) superheroes/superheroines turn you off, and why?

3.  What sort of things do you look for in a superhero/ine? Is appearance everything to you, or how ‘badass’ s/he is (as in how good s/he is against his/her foes), or the kind of person s/he is (morally impeccable like Superman, or bad-tempered like the Hulk, or arrogant like Namor etc), or the concept of the superhero/ine (whether s/he’s a mutant, magic-based, uses all sorts of futuristic gadgets, is a god/dess etc), or a bit of all these?

4.  If YOU could have FOUR superpowers, what would they be?

5.  Have you ever dreamt of superheroes/superheroines in your sleep?

Please don’t feel that you have to answer all the questions above (and feel free to bring in your own discussion topics as long as they’re about those guys and gals in comic books running/swimming/flying around in spandex smile ). I have my own answers, but for now how about sharing yours first?

1. I would have to say what appeals most to me about a superhero/heroine is their conviction. do they have an unwavering belief that what they are doing is right? I am not saying anything about having doubts about HOW to do but that WHAT they are doing is right and just. Frank Castle and Batman are examples of what I am saying

Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

2. What really turns me off is an excessive amount of cleavage and bare legs on women! To me, that’s an immediate turn off. Sorry, but I don’t like Super-Heroines looking like hookers when their costumes are nothing more than eye candy. Others love it, but I hate it. I also hate high heels. Why on EARTH would any super-hero wear high heels, especially if they have superspeed?! Makes ZERO sense to me! Do you know how hard it is to run in those things?! She’d be getting sprained ankles all the time! Oh, and I HATE the color combination of green and red together. That’s another turn off for me. Looks soooooooooo UGLY!


BUT I LOVE THE EYE CANDY!! Seriously you do have a point, I love the look but as far as functionality I am sure that running or fighting in high heels would be a HUGE pain in the backside! You are right on all the exposed skin to an extent as well, but if you could wear something that would provide a distraction to the male libido while you are beating him to a pulp, it sounds like a check in the plus column to me. My biggest thing right now is the whole Boob window for Power Girl. I love her old costume and really like the direction of her new one, bring back the boob window and it would be perfect! I love the flat heels that are integrated into the suit!

Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo.

4. My four powers would be Intangibility, the ability to project a bubble that once someone left it they would forget that they interacted or even saw me, The ability to mimic anyone or anything perfectly as long as it was a living, intelligent being. I guess that excludes mimicing a politician huh? 

5. I dream of being chased by a big busted Superheroine with a boob window leotard, bare legged, thigh high boots with high heels and opera gloves…Does that count?

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 77 ]
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K T Ong - 11 October 2012 11:41 PM

To RAMWolff and Knight:

It all comes down to commercialism. Aquaman was given some male assets so that twisted perverts like me could ogle him to their hearts’ content and sales of his comic would go up. tongue rolleye

Peter David wasn’t entirely responsible for Aquaman’s coat of fur, either, I believe; Jurgens was the artist who did Aquaman much of the time that Peter David was writing. So blame Jurgens, too!

I don’t blame the artist, they are told what to do and really don’t have nearly as much control over the the comics as the writers. Unless I’m wrong. The writers, in large part, control what happens. And Aquaman suffered because of it. The title got cancelled (temperarily) and Peter David went to another book (only to ruin that one too). Aquaman’s title was saved by a new writer that came on board and undid most of what Peter David had done.

Knight22179 - 11 October 2012 04:04 PM

K Tong: raspberry

I’ll take that as a nod of approval. wink

It wasn’t. *LOL* It was just sticking my tongue out at you. wink

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 78 ]
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shadowhawk1 - 12 October 2012 04:46 AM

BUT I LOVE THE EYE CANDY!! Seriously you do have a point, I love the look but as far as functionality I am sure that running or fighting in high heels would be a HUGE pain in the backside! You are right on all the exposed skin to an extent as well, but if you could wear something that would provide a distraction to the male libido while you are beating him to a pulp, it sounds like a check in the plus column to me. My biggest thing right now is the whole Boob window for Power Girl. I love her old costume and really like the direction of her new one, bring back the boob window and it would be perfect! I love the flat heels that are integrated into the suit!

Shadowhawk, what do you think of guys wearing something that would provide a distraction to the female libido? smile

lface8 - 12 October 2012 02:53 AM

While true, the original comic the show was based off of was pretty grim and had a bit of a noir feel to it.

I know. That’s why I specified the (early) cartoon series!

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 79 ]
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Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo

If ego is done right, then yes I agree with you. Tony’s ego is done right. Even Hal has an ego and it’s usually done right. But with certain characters, it’s not done right at all. Almost never with Guy Gardner. His arrogance and ego is way overdone, almost like the writers are always trying too hard. Sure, he has his moments where I actually do like the guy, but most of the time he’s just an arrogant prick who I hate and characters similar to him.

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 80 ]
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Knight22179 - 12 October 2012 08:29 AM

I don’t blame the artist, they are told what to do and really don’t have nearly as much control over the the comics as the writers. Unless I’m wrong. The writers, in large part, control what happens. And Aquaman suffered because of it.

Perhaps not so much ‘suffered’ as ‘was given a new interpretation’. Depends on whether one likes or hates it, I guess. (I happened to like it. Always like the guys woolly. smile )

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 81 ]
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K T Ong - 12 October 2012 08:33 AM
shadowhawk1 - 12 October 2012 04:46 AM

BUT I LOVE THE EYE CANDY!! Seriously you do have a point, I love the look but as far as functionality I am sure that running or fighting in high heels would be a HUGE pain in the backside! You are right on all the exposed skin to an extent as well, but if you could wear something that would provide a distraction to the male libido while you are beating him to a pulp, it sounds like a check in the plus column to me. My biggest thing right now is the whole Boob window for Power Girl. I love her old costume and really like the direction of her new one, bring back the boob window and it would be perfect! I love the flat heels that are integrated into the suit!

Shadowhawk, what do you think of guys wearing something that would provide a distraction to the female libido? smile

lface8 - 12 October 2012 02:53 AM

While true, the original comic the show was based off of was pretty grim and had a bit of a noir feel to it.

I know. That’s why I specified the (early) cartoon series!

I knew I was going to get asked that one! :facepalm: As long as I didn’t have to wear it I think it would be fair, but how many how many female supervillians are out there that would require that kind of distraction? Not big on the whole speedo thing but hey everyone has their own sense of fashion right? You aren’t going to ask me to wear the boob window leotard and high heels next are you? I would have to draw the line at that! I hear thongs are seriously uncomfortable! :cheezygrin:

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 82 ]
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3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo

If ego is done right, then yes I agree with you. Tony’s ego is done right. Even Hal has an ego and it’s usually done right. But with certain characters, it’s not done right at all. Almost never with Guy Gardner. His arrogance and ego is way overdone, almost like the writers are always trying too hard. Sure, he has his moments where I actually do like the guy, but most of the time he’s just an arrogant prick who I hate and characters similar to him.

I completely agree with you on guy Gardner he almost ruined the whole Green Lantern corps for me. If they let him in they had to be seriously desperate!

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 83 ]
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shadowhawk1 - 12 October 2012 08:46 AM

You aren’t going to ask me to wear the boob window leotard and high heels next are you?

Suppose I asked you to wear this instead? :cheesiergrin:

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 84 ]
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Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo

If ego is done right, then yes I agree with you. Tony’s ego is done right. Even Hal has an ego and it’s usually done right. But with certain characters, it’s not done right at all. Almost never with Guy Gardner. His arrogance and ego is way overdone, almost like the writers are always trying too hard. Sure, he has his moments where I actually do like the guy, but most of the time he’s just an arrogant prick who I hate and characters similar to him.

I completely agree with you on guy Gardner he almost ruined the whole Green Lantern corps for me. If they let him in they had to be seriously desperate!

They did let him in. Not once, but twice! So, yeah. They were desperate! *LOL*

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 85 ]
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K T Ong - 12 October 2012 08:51 AM
shadowhawk1 - 12 October 2012 08:46 AM

You aren’t going to ask me to wear the boob window leotard and high heels next are you?

Suppose I asked you to wear this instead? :cheesiergrin:


ROTFLMAO That would be even worse! That would be an epic fail on the scale of the Green Lantern Corps letting Guy in for a third time!

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Posted: 12 October 2012 08:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 86 ]
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Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo

If ego is done right, then yes I agree with you. Tony’s ego is done right. Even Hal has an ego and it’s usually done right. But with certain characters, it’s not done right at all. Almost never with Guy Gardner. His arrogance and ego is way overdone, almost like the writers are always trying too hard. Sure, he has his moments where I actually do like the guy, but most of the time he’s just an arrogant prick who I hate and characters similar to him.

I completely agree with you on guy Gardner he almost ruined the whole Green Lantern corps for me. If they let him in they had to be seriously desperate!

They did let him in. Not once, but twice! So, yeah. They were desperate! *LOL*

I stand corrected! I am with you on disbanding the all male green lanterns from earth club too. Saw you mention that on a different thread and they should have a couple of human female Green Lanterns.

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 87 ]
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Knight22179 - 08 October 2012 11:02 AM

3. I kind of touched upon this already. I look for a little bit of everything. I like heroes who have a good moral ground and I usually hate arrogant show offs like DC’s Guy Gardner or arrogant pricks like Monet St. Croix.

I don’t know a little bit of ego can be cool Love Downy’s portrayal of Tony Stark in the Iron Man and Avengers movies. It is just about the perfect amount of attitude and ego to be a real winning combo

If ego is done right, then yes I agree with you. Tony’s ego is done right. Even Hal has an ego and it’s usually done right. But with certain characters, it’s not done right at all. Almost never with Guy Gardner. His arrogance and ego is way overdone, almost like the writers are always trying too hard. Sure, he has his moments where I actually do like the guy, but most of the time he’s just an arrogant prick who I hate and characters similar to him.

I completely agree with you on guy Gardner he almost ruined the whole Green Lantern corps for me. If they let him in they had to be seriously desperate!

They did let him in. Not once, but twice! So, yeah. They were desperate! *LOL*

I stand corrected! I am with you on disbanding the all male green lanterns from earth club too. Saw you mention that on a different thread and they should have a couple of human female Green Lanterns.

ALL male GL’s?! Noooooo! Keep Hal, but I’m fine with getting rid of the rest and give Hal a back-up GL that’s a human women. cool smile

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 88 ]
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Knight22179 - 12 October 2012 09:01 AM

They did let him in. Not once, but twice! So, yeah. They were desperate! *LOL*

I stand corrected! I am with you on disbanding the all male green lanterns from earth club too. Saw you mention that on a different thread and they should have a couple of human female Green Lanterns.

ALL male GL’s?! Noooooo! Keep Hal, but I’m fine with getting rid of the rest and give Hal a back-up GL that’s a human women. cool smile

Couldn’t agree more! Keep Hal and give him a strong female Co-Lantern. Not a sidekick but an equal that is capable of going toe to toe with him if he goes off the deep end again.

 

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 89 ]
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To Shadowhawk:

Mind you, there have been guys dressed rather similarly to that! (Referring to the DZFashion suit.)

Which would surely be fairer. If we’re to dress up the gals in such deliciously provocative styles, why not the guys, too?

And here I agree with Knight, it’s just sexist that there wasn’t a single female GL!

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Posted: 12 October 2012 09:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 90 ]
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Bare legs and the stapless top on Wonder Woman never bothered me, unless it was drawn as a thong and the top was really low cut. Terry Dodson drew her fairly well covered and it looked good. I liked Power Girl’s costume, too, especially how it was drawn by Amanda Conner.

I don’t like it when a female hero who isn’t invulnerable is drawn showing a lot of skin, though. Huntress in hotpants and a belly shirt doesn’t make sense. She should be wearing lightweight, flexible body armor.

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