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Posted: 24 October 2012 12:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 181 ]
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shadowhawk1 - 24 October 2012 05:03 AM

It looks a lot like they were going for his Red/Silver look this time around. Was that supposed to be War Machine in the beginning? If so what is up with the Red/Silver/Blue color scheme?  Not complaining about the Old glory paint scheme but War Machine is a Black/Dark Grey color scheme, don’t mess with it, it works for that armor. I couldn’t agree more with needing more than a lackluster and short boss fight at the end, it needs to occupy a lot more of the time than a measly few minutes considering that he is fighting The Mandarin this time around. It also looks like his LMD suit makes an appearance .

I don’t recall the Extremis Armor having that much of a creamy yellow look. It was still mostly red and some gold (and looks freakin’ awesome in the comics! smile ). But here? Hardly any red while most of it is a disgusting looking creamy yellow look? UGLY!

As for the War Machine look, I have no idea if that was James Rhodey. But in the comics, the guy who wore that style of Iron Man Armor was Normon Osborn. He called him the Iron Patriot. HAAAATED that. Normon is the Green Goblin NOT a guy trying to be a hero and an Iron Man rip off to boot.

In Iron Man 3, The Iron Patriot will most likely be someone else. I’m guessing Rhodey (another miscast character).

I sure hope that they didn’t go that route with the Iron Patriot that was just really lame! I missed the whole Extremis story line so I have no reference for the comic armor but that has got to be the lamest gold color I have ever seen! If it were his normal shiny Gold it might be different but that just sucks toe sweat!

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Posted: 24 October 2012 05:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 182 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

 

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Posted: 24 October 2012 06:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 183 ]
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shadowhawk1 - 24 October 2012 05:03 AM

I couldn’t agree more with needing more than a lackluster and short boss fight at the end, it needs to occupy a lot more of the time than a measly few minutes considering that he is fighting The Mandarin this time around.

The Mandarin’s going to appear this time? YIKES! big surprise

Been working on a pic of a new superhero I made up, by the way. Hope you fellas will find it good. It’s based on a figure from Buddhist mythology. I’m dubbing him the Diamond Bearer.

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I don’t think it’s that big a deal; Hogun and Heimdall in the Thor movie didn’t exactly look Norse, either. I’m more concerned with the story and acting being good. While I really liked the first two movies, I didn’t care for the villain basically being another guy in armor, that had already been done in the first film. While the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_3) does mention the characters, it’s unclear if the Madarin will have any sort of powers, like in the comics, or simply be a terrorist. The idea of someone trying to destroy Tony Stark’s life seems to strongly echo the plot of The Dark Knight Rises; hopefully, this won’t be the case as more about the movie surfaces in the next few months.

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Posted: 24 October 2012 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 184 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

I saw the trailer and he wears the rings. :D

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Posted: 24 October 2012 08:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 185 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

I’m sure that when most people use terms like Asian or Oriental to refer to race/ethnicity, they are talking about Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc.; any of the people with epicanthic folds, as a notable feature. In the comics, the Mandarin was half-Chinese, but I’m willing to cut the film makers a little slack. Asia is a huge place, including most of the Middle East; here’s a picture (admittedly very old) depicting some of the variety of humans who can be found there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asiatiska_folk,_Nordisk_familjebok.jpg.

 

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Posted: 25 October 2012 06:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 186 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

Plus he’s actually a good and experienced actor. And someone you can actually use for marketing purposes. I think it’s a pretty good choice for the part. I just hope they get the movie right this time around ^^

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Posted: 25 October 2012 06:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 187 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

Plus he’s actually a good and experienced actor. And someone you can actually use for marketing purposes. I think it’s a pretty good choice for the part. I just hope they get the movie right this time around ^^

Me too. I’m going to try not to judge the movie until I’ve seen it. Hopefully it’ll be worth the 7 month wait.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 08:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 188 ]
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riftwitch - 24 October 2012 08:40 PM

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

I think most Indians have physical (and cultural) features which would in fact link them closer to the Caucasian races than to the Mongoloid ones. It’s not for no reason that we have terms like ‘Indo-European’. smile

I’m sure that when most people use terms like Asian or Oriental to refer to race/ethnicity, they are talking about Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc.; any of the people with epicanthic folds, as a notable feature. In the comics, the Mandarin was half-Chinese, but I’m willing to cut the film makers a little slack. Asia is a huge place, including most of the Middle East; here’s a picture (admittedly very old) depicting some of the variety of humans who can be found there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asiatiska_folk,_Nordisk_familjebok.jpg.

Hey, Europe’s a pretty big place, too, and I’m sure Europeans can come in a pretty wide variety of flavors as well. The ancient Romans noted as much if I remember correctly; they distinguished themselves from the Northern Europeans whom they considered much fairer than themselves. It wouldn’t be exactly appropriate for a Greek with curly black hair to act as Thor, would it? wink

It’s interesting to note there don’t seem that many (prominent) superheroes/heroines of Asian stock or based on Asian culture (and here I shall mean ‘Asian’ in the broad sense you suggested), and those few you find are almost always martial artists and of Chinese/Japanese/Korean origin. (Was Iron Fist Asian, though? I think not…) There’s got to be some superhero concept you can come up with which won’t be so stereotypical and can be based on the rich cultures of Asia in some other more interesting ways. My Diamond Bearer (check this out if interested) was intended precisely as an attempt at this.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 09:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 189 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

I’m sure that when most people use terms like Asian or Oriental to refer to race/ethnicity, they are talking about Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc.; any of the people with epicanthic folds, as a notable feature. In the comics, the Mandarin was half-Chinese, but I’m willing to cut the film makers a little slack. Asia is a huge place, including most of the Middle East; here’s a picture (admittedly very old) depicting some of the variety of humans who can be found there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asiatiska_folk,_Nordisk_familjebok.jpg.

 

Thanks for pointing this out. smile

However, the Mandarin has always looked Asian in the comics. Although Ben is a superb actor, he doesn’t even look Asian. Plus, the guy is old. So, lot only did the Casting Director NOT do his job with the proper ethnic background, but he also hired an actor who’s too old. I like my heroes and villians to be as close as they can be to their comic counterparts. If they aren’t, it takes me right out of the movie. And the casting directors defense of casting Ben is nothing more than a lame excuse so he can sleep better at night.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 09:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 190 ]
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Knight22179 - 25 October 2012 09:13 AM

However, the Mandarin has always looked Asian in the comics. Although Ben is a superb actor, he doesn’t even look Asian. Plus, the guy is old. So, lot only did the Casting Director NOT do his job with the proper ethnic background, but he also hired an actor who’s too old. I like my heroes and villians to be as close as they can be to their comic counterparts. If they aren’t, it takes me right out of the movie.

Mostly agree. That’s why I felt funny about the X-Men movies. They just weren’t dressed the way they were in the (early) X-Men comics.

Hey, whom would you have nominated to play the role of the Mandarin, Chow Yun-Fatt maybe? Or John Lone? Just curious. smile

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Posted: 25 October 2012 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 191 ]
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However, the Mandarin has always looked Asian in the comics. Although Ben is a superb actor, he doesn’t even look Asian. Plus, the guy is old. So, lot only did the Casting Director NOT do his job with the proper ethnic background, but he also hired an actor who’s too old. I like my heroes and villians to be as close as they can be to their comic counterparts. If they aren’t, it takes me right out of the movie.

Mostly agree. That’s why I felt funny about the X-Men movies. They just weren’t dressed the way they were in the (early) X-Men comics.

Hey, whom would you have nominated to play the role of the Mandarin, Chow Yun-Fatt maybe? Or John Lone? Just curious. smile

Actually, if the guy was young enough, I would have went with Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa (Played Shang Tsung in the Mortal Combat movie). If only he was 20yrs younger, he would have been PERFECT! Absolutely perfect for the role (the guy even LOOKS evil, you can’t tell me he wasn’t perfect for the role). As it is, they don’t care about age obviously since this isn’t the first time in the Iron Man trilogy they hired an actor who’s too old for the part (i.e. Robert). So they hired a 70yr old man, Ben, to play the role while Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, who is 62, is left unnoticed. Doesn’t make a lick of sense to me.

But…if I had been the casting director (if only!), I too would have left Cary-Hiroyuki unnoticed because I would have considered him too old. So, John Lone looks like he could pull it off a LOT better than Ben.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 192 ]
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Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Yes, the Mandarin is going to appear and be the villian. Unfortunately, he’s a MAJOR MISCAST as the actor isn’t Asian when the Mandarin is. Why can’t Casting Directors do their freakin’ jobs right?

I can understand your frustration here. Hollywood often DOES mess up the stories of games and comics which they try to make into movies. (Just look at the two Street Fighter movies they did.) But then again, some Western actors/actresses do have an Asian look about them. smile (Dunno about the one acting as the Mandarin, though…)

I wonder if this Mandarin will have his rings on his fingers or embedded into his spine?...

Knight22179 - 24 October 2012 11:55 AM

Cool looking super-hero there. He must like blueberries. :D

Oh, absolutely. And probably blackcurrants, too. LOL

Well, the Mandarin is being played by Ben Kingsley, who has Indian ancestry on his father’s side. The Indian sub-continent is part of Asia, so technically he is Asian…

I’m sure that when most people use terms like Asian or Oriental to refer to race/ethnicity, they are talking about Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc.; any of the people with epicanthic folds, as a notable feature. In the comics, the Mandarin was half-Chinese, but I’m willing to cut the film makers a little slack. Asia is a huge place, including most of the Middle East; here’s a picture (admittedly very old) depicting some of the variety of humans who can be found there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Asiatiska_folk,_Nordisk_familjebok.jpg.

 

Thanks for pointing this out. smile

However, the Mandarin has always looked Asian in the comics. Although Ben is a superb actor, he doesn’t even look Asian. Plus, the guy is old. So, lot only did the Casting Director NOT do his job with the proper ethnic background, but he also hired an actor who’s too old. I like my heroes and villians to be as close as they can be to their comic counterparts. If they aren’t, it takes me right out of the movie. And the casting directors defense of casting Ben is nothing more than a lame excuse so he can sleep better at night.

Well, love it or hate it, Ben is who we’re getting. I suppose with a good enough performance, it wouldn’t matter if the Mandarin was played by a woman. We’ll just have to wait & see.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 193 ]
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Knight22179 - 25 October 2012 09:13 AM

However, the Mandarin has always looked Asian in the comics. Although Ben is a superb actor, he doesn’t even look Asian. Plus, the guy is old. So, lot only did the Casting Director NOT do his job with the proper ethnic background, but he also hired an actor who’s too old. I like my heroes and villians to be as close as they can be to their comic counterparts. If they aren’t, it takes me right out of the movie.

Mostly agree. That’s why I felt funny about the X-Men movies. They just weren’t dressed the way they were in the (early) X-Men comics.

Hey, whom would you have nominated to play the role of the Mandarin, Chow Yun-Fatt maybe? Or John Lone? Just curious. smile

Actually, if the guy was young enough, I would have went with Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa (Played Shang Tsung in the Mortal Combat movie). If only he was 20yrs younger, he would have been PERFECT! Absolutely perfect for the role (the guy even LOOKS evil, you can’t tell me he wasn’t perfect for the role). As it is, they don’t care about age obviously since this isn’t the first time in the Iron Man trilogy they hired an actor who’s too old for the part (i.e. Robert). So they hired a 70yr old man, Ben, to play the role while Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, who is 62, is left unnoticed. Doesn’t make a lick of sense to me.

But…if I had been the casting director (if only!), I too would have left Cary-Hiroyuki unnoticed because I would have considered him too old. So, John Lone looks like he could pull it off a LOT better than Ben.

I don’t know who John Lone or Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa are, but I could see Chow Yun-Fat in the role.

I’m kind of on the fence about the X-men. I can understand wanting things to be as close to the comic as possible, but some visual things don’t seem to translate well from from page to screen. It would have been nice to see the mutants in the comic outfits we’re familiar with, but if they were going to change them for the movies, I think they made the right call.

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Posted: 25 October 2012 02:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 194 ]
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Someone mention Black Superheroes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes

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Posted: 25 October 2012 06:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 195 ]
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Turned out there was a list of Asian superheroes, too! grin

(Which includes several villains…)

I wonder how old they’re letting the Mandarin be in the Marvel universe at present? (If Nicholas Hammond really were Spiderman, Spidey would be in his 60’s now! Can superheroes still be as effective when they age?...)

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