Digital Art Zone

JimmyC_2009 - 06 October 2012 08:31 AM

I am no expert on this, but it looks like you are running out of memory.

What you could try is removing some of the lights from the scene, and see if it can render then (just as a test)?  There are a lot of lights in your scene.

DS 4.5 is a bit less accomodating than earlier versions were, and there are a lot of people having problems on 32 bit systems with renders.  I don;t know if it is the new version of 3Delight that it uses, or if DS 4.5 just needs more memory to work properly.

I don;t think that there is any easy fix, but hang on for a little while, some of our members here know a great deal about this and can help a lot more than I can.

Thanks JimmyC

I will try your suggestion and see what happens…....

I wasn’t trying to hijack the thread all I was trying to do was to add weight to the issues pointed out.

As Jimmy says a lot of us with 32bit systems seem to be having memory issues and like Jimmy I came to a conclusion ,wrong or rightly I don’t know, that the improvements in Quality and Render speed may come at a cost.

If I keep the scene limited to a lower amount of Geometry, lower texture sizes and less advanced lighting then I can render a number of test renders no problem. Open it back up, render the final, save the image, save the scene and close no problem.

As soon as I start to go over these limits, even lowering the shading rate from .20 to .10 can cause the same render, at the same size with the same lighting and content, to crash.

I personally fell they should just do away with 32bit systems.

OK All,
See here: http://www.daz3d.com/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=97&aid=24421_3z0c5NtMs2sUL7Jyl316&board_id=1
Took out the lights - it crashed
Took out the lights, Dragon - it crashed
Took out the lights, Dragon, staff - it crashed
Took out the lights, Dragon, staff, background and changed to a png render - it crashed….......

Look like I will need to try again building up the scene with my base figure again, but that’s for another day…maybe…

Meanwhile here’s Carmen sending you Love…..

At my age, I would rather that Carmen sent me one of her gold bracelets   Thanks for the image though.

I am sorry that you are having so much trouble, but there must be something corrupted about the scene I think.  If you ever get started on it again, and I hope you do, try it a bit at a time.  Add some things, then render, then add some more.

It really is a pity that you are having all of this trouble.  I hope you get to the bottom of it, or another version helps.

finally when I was thinking all is working good . I decided I give it a go with PWsurface and do a few changes to my character skin with that when after a few renders I my system is crashing . and I’m using 64 bit so not sure what is the problem .

the CPU using 100%

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Available Virtual Memory: 8388411 Mb (8795886698496)
Current Memory Usage: 15%
??? ? 15. ??? 22:22:13 2012
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3Delight message #45 (Severity 1): S2072: the shader

‘D:/Program Files/DAZ 3D/DAZStudio4/shaders/pwSurface2.sdl’ uses a different interface version. Automatic conversion was successful. It should be recompiled for better performance

I posted a thread about memory requirements for rendering recently.

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/9286/

I used a a 32-bit Windows XP system with 2 gb of ram. I could not render even simple figures using the 3Delight software rendering option much bigger than 600x463. If I used the two lowest quality rendering options, I could render more complex figures at larger sizes. When it crashed, sometimes it gave resource errors. Sometimes it just crashed with no error.

I recently borrowed a laptop with 64bit Windows 7, 4 GB of ram and a I7 M640 processor. The difference was like night and day. I was able to render the same images using the 3Delight software option at much larger sizes, like 1800x1200, even with ray traced shadows. I had no crashes at all on the 64bit system.

I monitored the memory used on the 64bit system with the task manager. I never saw the memory usage larger than memory available on my 32bit system. I have sometimes seen the DAZstudio process above 1 GB of memory on my 32 bit system, but some simple figures failed with maximum memory usage of around 750 MB.  On the 64bit system memory usage never got above 800 MB, but the renders never crashed.

To me it seems the 64 bit version of DAZstudio and the 3Delight rendering software are much more stable than the 32 bit version. Maybe the 64 bit version never ran out of memory in my tests, so it seemed more stable to me.

so this is why I’m lost…  I’m using 64 bit Ihave 8Gb ram my graphic card is very good one…my computer is strong but I did too many stupid stuff to my computer so now I suffer.

I took advice from someone here in the forum after I had some problems and misunderstood him and deleted all my application data in my computer so this is probably way this is all happening now i’m lost on how to fix this

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looks like my only solution is to take my computer to the lab and get it fixed and also re insall windows 7

is there like online help with this kind of things before I run to the lab to fix this ?

My Win7 has a built in Reset to Factory Default at boot Time. It’s one of the F keys. It will put Win7 back on your PC just like it was the first time you booted the system. It will even leave all your installed content alone. So If you still get errors after that you could uninstall that software and start again. At least you would know Win7 is stable.

Thankes Jade you are sweet as a pie
my win 7 is in Hebrew so not sure where to find this Reset to Factory Default at boot Time thing

RedHeadLilith - 16 October 2012 06:41 AM

Thankes Jade you are sweet as a pie
my win 7 is in Hebrew so not sure where to find this Reset to Factory Default at boot Time thing

It pops up on your screen at Boot time for a very short time. Do a reboot and watch, once you see it note it down and then Google what it says. You will soon know how to set your PC back to default when you need too.

thanks Jade . will try this