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Posted: 05 October 2012 07:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Well found the DS4 Official Release Thread in the old forum:

http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=177700

And it says this:

“The “Decimator” plug-in for Win32/64 and Mac32 is now installed with DAZ Studio 4, and is available separately, as part of the Game Developer Kit, or as part of the DS4 “Pro” bundle “

Looking though different posts it appears that it was included (for free) with the paid version of DS4 Pro, but not the free version of same. At least that’s how I understand it. 

There were several upgrade options including a very cheap one ($28 or something) for those who already had all the tools included, or previous versions of them. I found out I had them all except Decimator, so as it was on sale for about $20 then, I bought it to quality for the cheap upgrade.

So now it all makes sense.

 

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Posted: 05 October 2012 08:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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DS4.5 is in general a great upgrade. Autofit works a lot better and the program seems more stable than 4.0 did. It does have its problems though like it is much more ‘picky’ about how dsf and cr2 files are set up. For example, in DS3 and 4.0 if the maker didn’t put the references for a geometry object in it would still load the clothing or prop just fine. In 4.5 it appears to load but doesn’t actually load on problem files like that. I did find a fix which is in a thread in my signature but stuff like that is something to be aware of.

Most plugins and shaders also work ok though there are a few scattered around that haven’t been updated yet.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 08:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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I too was afraid but did upgrade earlier this week. I haven’t tested all of my old saved files/content, but what I have used works fine. My only issue is that the Genesis basic male and female have exclamation marks in the content folder and won’t load… but M5, V5, Gorilla etc all load fine and the basic genesis shape loads on start-up. It looks like the app is looking for a .dsf file but mine is .duf. I was finally able to upgrade my genesis starter to 1.4 but it didn’t help. I am running both the 64 and 32 bit versions on Win7.

Edit: Actually on the links I created in my Categories section don’t work, the links to the genesis basic male/female work fine in the Daz Studio Formats section of the Content Library.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 08:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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As far as the Decimator discussion goes, I think if you had BOUGHT DS Pro, then the decimator came with it.  If you got the free version, it did not. 

I’ve just bought Decimator and ordered the update, though the downloads for same are mysteriously unavailable. 

I’m gonna try to update and hope for the best… thanks y’all, and thank you in advance for the fix.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 09:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Upgraded and never looked back. 98% of the stuff that worked for me before still work (with the exception of a few things that have yet to be updated). Auto-Fit works much better now (except when it comes to shoes, they still crumble).

I made the mistake of upgrading thinking Gen4 (Now GenX) would still work. It didn’t. :( Which forced me to finally buy the upgrade to it and now it works.

I’m really glad I upgraded.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 09:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Hm… I don’t particularly relish the idea of even 2% of what used to work not working any longer!  I already have GenX, and got the update files in my download queue, I’ve read somewhere that the morphs I’ve already made with the old version will transfer to the new one, which is a relief.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 11:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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twalling - 05 October 2012 09:44 AM

I already have GenX, and got the update files in my download queue, I’ve read somewhere that the morphs I’ve already made with the old version will transfer to the new one, which is a relief.

They’re just morphs, they don’t particularly care which version you’re running, but apparently the revised version will give a better conversion if you redo them.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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twalling - 05 October 2012 09:44 AM

Hm… I don’t particularly relish the idea of even 2% of what used to work not working any longer!  I already have GenX, and got the update files in my download queue, I’ve read somewhere that the morphs I’ve already made with the old version will transfer to the new one, which is a relief.

Well, the 2% that doesn’t work for me are products by Dreamlight. Thankfully, I don’t have that many of his products and now that I know he won’t be updating his plugins and lightsets to work for 4.5, I won’t bother buying anymore of his products since, chances are, they won’t even work.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 01:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Knight22179 - 05 October 2012 01:24 PM
twalling - 05 October 2012 09:44 AM

Hm… I don’t particularly relish the idea of even 2% of what used to work not working any longer!  I already have GenX, and got the update files in my download queue, I’ve read somewhere that the morphs I’ve already made with the old version will transfer to the new one, which is a relief.

Well, the 2% that doesn’t work for me are products by Dreamlight. Thankfully, I don’t have that many of his products and now that I know he won’t be updating his plugins and lightsets to work for 4.5, I won’t bother buying anymore of his products since, chances are, they won’t even work.

The Dreamlight stuff mostly doesn’t work in DS4, never mind 4.5, there are a handful of exceptions such as Light Dome Pro (but not LDP2), but none of the plugins will function.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 01:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Then Dreamlight should either update his products (which he won’t) or remove them from the store.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 02:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Knight22179 - 05 October 2012 01:24 PM
twalling - 05 October 2012 09:44 AM

Hm… I don’t particularly relish the idea of even 2% of what used to work not working any longer!  I already have GenX, and got the update files in my download queue, I’ve read somewhere that the morphs I’ve already made with the old version will transfer to the new one, which is a relief.

Well, the 2% that doesn’t work for me are products by Dreamlight. Thankfully, I don’t have that many of his products and now that I know he won’t be updating his plugins and lightsets to work for 4.5, I won’t bother buying anymore of his products since, chances are, they won’t even work.

Oh, cool, no problem there.  I don’t plan on buying anything from Dreamlight.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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I have had intermittent problems with rendering since I upgraded, when I had none with DS4. Every time I think I have the problem solved I render something new and the problem starts all over again. I don’t know what the issue is but Daz seems to be really resource intensive - using 100% of my cpu and more than 50% of my ram. I do have an older machine with 32bit vista and 4gb of RAM. When it’s rendering properly it will render super quick I just wish I could isolate what the issue is.

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Posted: 05 October 2012 02:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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anikad - 05 October 2012 02:23 PM

I have had intermittent problems with rendering since I upgraded, when I had none with DS4. Every time I think I have the problem solved I render something new and the problem starts all over again. I don’t know what the issue is but Daz seems to be really resource intensive - using 100% of my cpu and more than 50% of my ram. I do have an older machine with 32bit vista and 4gb of RAM. When it’s rendering properly it will render super quick I just wish I could isolate what the issue is.

Same here http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/8265/#115399

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Posted: 06 October 2012 06:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Just want to say that I upgraded, and have encountered zero problems.  Thanks everybody!

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Posted: 06 October 2012 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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ragaray - 05 October 2012 08:47 AM

I too was afraid but did upgrade earlier this week. I haven’t tested all of my old saved files/content, but what I have used works fine. My only issue is that the Genesis basic male and female have exclamation marks in the content folder and won’t load… but M5, V5, Gorilla etc all load fine and the basic genesis shape loads on start-up. It looks like the app is looking for a .dsf file but mine is .duf. I was finally able to upgrade my genesis starter to 1.4 but it didn’t help. I am running both the 64 and 32 bit versions on Win7.

Edit: Actually on the links I created in my Categories section don’t work, the links to the genesis basic male/female work fine in the Daz Studio Formats section of the Content Library.

If you did your own categorizing previously, those links won’t automatically be updated for the new .duf files—I had to do them manually.

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