Digital Art Zone

You are correctly reminded.  I wanted to test the compatibility of the TA rendering with the mirrors in the scene and the streaming light effect.

Ah interesting, so the same scene, rendered in 2 different versions of Bryce ?  Nice.image, both of them

Horo - 08 September 2012 01:25 PM

@K T Ong - since we talk about vegetation in Bryce, here are some random examples:

http://www.bryce5.com/details.php?image_id=5147
http://www.bryce5.com/details.php?image_id=3934
http://www.bryce5.com/details.php?image_id=4237
http://www.bryce5.com/details.php?image_id=4344

@David - beautiful. It reminded me immediately to Riverbank http://www.bryce5.com/details.php?image_id=2315

@ Horo,

I love those renders you did, the trees along with lighting techniques are genius. Well done!

@ David,

Love the way you added that streaming light effect. I’m going to try something like that in the near future.

Thank you, Sara16. But there is only one from me. I think the other examples are better.

Horo - 09 September 2012 02:32 AM

Thank you, Sara16. But there is only one from me. I think the other examples are better.

Those other ones are from our friend Rashad, aren’t they? If so here’s two more great examples of his work and how good vegetation can look in Bryce. This one also shows Bryce can be competitive on the frequency of plants compared to Vue. I have heard though that Vue can handle large numbers of instances of things in a scene better then Bryce.

@LordHardDriven - the first link shows vegetation by Alex, two are by Rashad and one by yours truly. There are many more examples of elaborate vegetation, most by Rashad.

Horo - 09 September 2012 02:32 AM

Thank you, Sara16. But there is only one from me. I think the other examples are better.

Ah I see now, in those 4 links you posted;

Alex : Old Pond
Horo : Backlit Trees
Rashad : Zen
Rashad : Far from the Big City

All excellent examples of vegetation.

Horo - 09 September 2012 07:52 AM

@LordHardDriven - the first link shows vegetation by Alex, two are by Rashad and one by yours truly. There are many more examples of elaborate vegetation, most by Rashad.

Oh I know, I got those from Bryce5.com and as I was looking around I had a tough time deciding what pictures to pick as additional examples as there were so many good ones.

@Horo ~ I’d love to live by that old pond!

David Brinnen - 08 September 2012 12:49 PM

So, look at the renders made in each piece of software.  Decide with you like the look of best.  Try the software out and see how your renders compare to the ones you like.  See if you can figure out - with the aid of tutorials - how you can improve your scenes.  And repeat the process a few times.  If you find that enjoyable, you’ve found your software, given time and effort on your part, you will eventually be able to make the kind of scenes you desire.

If however, you find you are fighting with the interface and not getting anywhere, then try the other software, and see how you get on with that following the same process.

My advice, if you are doing this for a hobby, choose the piece of software you like using best.  If you choose Bryce you know where you can come to get help and advice.

Yes, I’ll be doing that. Merely thought it might help me form a better decision (and sooner) by soliciting the opinions of those who have tried both Bryce and VUE. Which did they like more, and why? Were there special things in Bryce they liked which they couldn’t find in VUE, and vice versa?

Real lovely forest/brook scene by the way, with all the wonderful god rays. Will have to get around to create a similar scene some time. By getting the DVD and following the tutes in it, perhaps.

And I shall continue waiting for that outrageous offer for us to download several of VUE’s modules for free, like DAZ 3D’s stuff.

LordHardDriven - 08 September 2012 11:05 AM

Yeah but even if you selectively buy just what you need Bryce is still going to beat it because for now Bryce is free. There are few add on products one needs for Bryce. Most of them are things designed to give the beginner a head start. Whereas the version of view you’re considering sounds like a striped down version and you end up buying the parts they took out that you need. Then on top of that are all the add on products that give the beginner a head start.

Their PDF guide to VUE featuring a superhero is still pretty much cheaper than the Bryce DVD. Though I fully agree that on the whole VUE’s still going to cost more.

To be fair the DVD is not really aimed at beginners and tends to focus on more advanced topics.  For free there are plenty of tutorials here http://www.bryce-tutorials.info/bryce-tutorials.html - of course these do not provide a structured approach to learning the software, but for that there are the beginners tutorials from the Bryce 5.0 manual that now reside in the artist guide documentation.  I don’t know how things stand with Vue, but with Bryce it’s more a case of pick it up and start playing with it.  That is how I learned from a computer arts magazine disc demo that came with no documentation and this was before the advent of an internet connection.  This is the beauty of an interface - all be it somewhat long in the tooth - that was designed by an artist instead of a programmer.

Is there a tute that starts by showing you a really good scene, and then shows you how to create it step-by-step?

Would be great if there were such a tute showing how you made your forest/brook scene with all the god rays. Plus some nice sky, maybe.

K T Ong - 10 September 2012 09:48 AM

Is there a tute that starts by showing you a really good scene, and then shows you how to create it step-by-step?

Would be great if there were such a tute showing how you made your forest/brook scene with all the god rays. Plus some nice sky, maybe.

Define really good scene?

I think all of these fit the bill of good scene and since they’re all by David here you would also get a feel for the value of the Mentor DVD since David is part of the creative genius behind that DVD

Bryce desert landscape - part 1 - a 15 minute tutorial in two parts by David Brinnen 
Bryce desert landscape - part 2 - a 15 minute tutorial in two parts by David Brinnen
Bryce lake in a landscape - a 15 minute tutorial by David Brinnen
Bryce lighthouse “light beam” effect - a 15 minute tutorial by David Brinnen

One with lotsa vegetation and god rays, maybe. And great skies with clouds and lighting effects.

Unlike this one. (No clouds, no vegetation, water that looks like a sheet of glass…)

(Thanx for all the links to the tutes, by the way!)

Or this. (Trying to create an underground cavern scene. Don’t think it looks convincing.)