Digital Art Zone

Ohhhhhhh Nooooooo! not the’ what is art’ debate again, nobody will ever win it, I tell ya!
Whether or not ANYTHING can be considered ‘art’ is really down to personal opinion, pride and snobbery.

Ask a Max/Maya/Blender artist (whos a bit of an elitist) and he will probably tell you Poser users aren’t really artists.
Ask a photographer (whos a bit of an elitist) and he will probably tell you that 3d Artists aren’t really artists.
Ask a painter (whos a bit of an elitist) and he will probably tell you that photographers aren’t really an artists.
Ask an Art critic (whos a bit of an elitist) and he will probably tell you that the above painter isn’t really an artist.
You get the picture….

What ever your artistic vice, so long as you are having fun with it, you dont need anyone elses approval.
Enjoy it with like minded people and forget about what everyone else thinks - find some other common ground with them instead.

I think you need new friends.

Kidding aside, others made it for others to use it.  Others use it to make their own images.  It is art, your own art, much the same war Star Wars is Lucas’ own movie.  Its kind of like photo-manip in the regards that you will usually go out and find stock and assemble it into a new work.  But it is the work that is new and yours.

Tell them all to get a life. I’ve been drawing painting ect.. most of my life. Did some commercial art for a short time. Now I’m retired from a life that went a different way and I’m doing 3D art. All my friends and family are happy to see me doing ART again. What I do is art and you can tell them I said so.

Jaderail - 08 September 2012 01:06 PM

Tell them all to get a life. I’ve been drawing painting ect.. most of my life. Did some commercial art for a short time. Now I’m retired from a life that went a different way and I’m doing 3D art. All my friends and family are happy to see me doing ART again. What I do is art and you can tell them I said so.

Well said… I’m with you

@ Revenger…........ I’d like to know how your “Art Critique Friends” would go with rendering a decent artwork!

Now that I’ve read this thread… I’m feeling a little angered, perhaps cheated… I have an extensive art background, since the moment I got a set of crayons. I’ve studied digital media, 3d animation, visual arts, fine arts, sculpture, print, creative writing etc. etc. If your ‘friends’ don’t believe 3d animation or images are under the category of creative art - then they have no knowledge of the very definition of ART! - If they are right, (Which I beg to differ!) then of every thing I’ve studied only Painting and Sketching is art, thus I would not know any better as I’m corrupted with so many non-art subjects.

Don’t bother debating with the narrow perceptions of others, in the end we are what we make ourselves! And since you’re here at daz, you are most likely a creative individual and someone who creates original work is in my opinion an artist… What an artist creates (With NO purpose of ‘functionality’ (The term ‘functionality’ refers to object or creation to be used for some practical purpose such as a fork or a chair))  IS ART!

...Art.  A fellow I know with no arms and legs who hangs around on a wall.

Art is the act of putting items/objects/brushstrokes together to create a message you want to communicate to others(generally in a way that is either pleasing to the eye or in a way that deliberately jars(cause that’s part of the message being communicated). Even if the message is simply look at this beautiful woman and the mood she evokes…

Sculptors use found materials…

Artists who use collage in their work use ready made materials…

Artists who paint buy their paint from a shop…

Quilt Artists use fabric….

Photographers use items from real life….

the list goes on.

If you look at any render of a particular model you will find that they all have differences. Some will contain a high order of originality, some will contain technical expertise with their use of shaders or lights, some will use colour in a way that takes you breath away.

None of them will be the exact same.

This is no different than traditional artists in galleries. You look at a Kandinsky and you mind is blown away by his brilliant use of colour. For originality you couldn’t go past Salvador Dali. You look at the impressionests and you’re blown away by their use of light in their works. Each new step/phase in art development you have naysayers who say that isn’t art. The impressionests originally were told that’s not true art…and had difficulty getting in to the French Gallery( I think it was called the academy, sorry not sure)

Don’t let the naysayers get to you…it is their narrow conception of what art is that causes them to say what you are doing isn’t art.

A friend is a precious thing, even more so if you’re an artist and they aren’t and you want somebody to keep your ego in check. I wouldn’t change them for anything. However you can turn their argument around: is a clerk who uses Word/Excel author of their own work?
If you’re fixing meshes in Carrara and changing textures, you’re already at least a couple of steps ahead of the average DS/Poser user. I’ll leave the “is it Art?” for another time, as I’m old-school and still think Aristotle got it right: Art is that which is learned, therefore very much like craft. I do not know any Art-form that doesn’t require craft.

this is a joke - how many time are you people going to do this
you all ways say the same thing - nothing new
get a life
you like what you are doing
then do it
who cares what some body has said about your ” ART “

bigh - 09 September 2012 04:24 AM

this is a joke - how many time are you people going to do this
you all ways say the same thing - nothing new
get a life
you like what you are doing
then do it
who cares what some body has said about your ” ART “

LMAO! haha! good point! I do also think enough has been said lol I think we all just had to let of some steam haha!

Q: A blonde is walking down the street with a pig under her arm. She passes a person who asks “Where did you get that?”
A: The pig says, “I won her in a raffle!”

so it goes

I do not pretend to be a fine artist
I am a video producer
my Daz figures etc “actors”
clothing, “my wardrobe department”
I often make my own awful music but using a computer still.
but being a video producer still makes you an artist,
people who do still renders using models are like photographers and home decorators/interior designers etc, it is still art.
just not “fine art “
craft is not fine art either.

as the days go by

I think how lucky I am you are not here to ruin them for me

so it goes

fine ” ART “