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Posted: 06 September 2012 08:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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An update on the camera position. I like this on a lot, thanks for the tip Miss B.
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Posted: 06 September 2012 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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bluemoon - 06 September 2012 08:02 PM
An update on the camera position. I like this on a lot, thanks for the tip Miss B.
Darn good work. I see one little thing with the hand. Not many (some) people curl the trigger finger over the trigger. Most (not all) pull the trigger with just the tip of the finger. Might that be what you think is just not right?
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Posted: 06 September 2012 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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bluemoon - 06 September 2012 08:02 PM
An update on the camera position. I like this on a lot, thanks for the tip Miss B.
Darn good work. I see one little thing with the hand. Not many (some) people curl the trigger finger over the trigger. Most (not all) pull the trigger with just the tip of the finger. Might that be what you think is just not right?

The trigger finger and thumb have been the hardest to pose and I think you're onto something with just having the tip of the finger on the trigger.
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Posted: 06 September 2012 09:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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A lot of the finger position has to do with the action of the gun. I've fired an older .22 rifle (maybe 75-100 yrs old) with a very tight trigger. Then I've fired a 9MM handgun with what I consider a hair trigger. At the risk of getting off-topic with the poses (although to use a prop you need to use a convincing pose) I would suggest you think what adds a dramatic look to the image. If a finger tip adds to the drama of the scene then use it, but if a tightly squeezed finger adds a more forceful or intense feel, then try that.


Personally, looking at the images, I think the pose is good and works top serve the figure and the prop. I would concentrate on the lighting to add more drama. The framing of the second image has also helped.
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Posted: 06 September 2012 11:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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I do Agree about the trigger thing. It will depend on the pull of the trigger. Even for hard pulls most of the time, the CROOK of the last joint is what is used, so the trigger sits in the bend. To me the finger is to far over the trigger which puts the trigger on the MEAT of that finger and not on a power point. Yes you are supposed to squeeze a trigger but for art's use we all see the TV/Movie cop/thug stuff so much it is pretty much the not deep pull that the eye expects to see. As for the thumb if you have enough play left in this pose try rotating the pad more against the gun. I think the position looks good.

And Yes, the lighting can really make this render stand out. Try to get the Free Seven point light tutorial from the guy from DreamLight. It was free for the longest and gives very good tips on scene lighting.
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Posted: 07 September 2012 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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wilmap this looks much better
bleumoon this looks good.
good work
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Posted: 07 September 2012 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Great renders so far. Sorry for not pooping in too much, been a bit busy elsewhere.

And all the comments about the trigger finger have had me trying to rember how I placed my thrigger finger, last time I fired a gun. lol, don't have a gun now, to try it out. rolleyes, but as I remember it I would have the top two joints of the finger almost straight, and the finger would be back a bit compared to the rest of the hand.
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Posted: 07 September 2012 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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The image may look a bit different than the one before( had to reinstall the system ) but in my humble opinion I think the pose looks much better now. Currently doing some lighting testing and the first result follows.
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Posted: 07 September 2012 08:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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My 2nd attempt.

Real problems getting the light right.

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Posted: 07 September 2012 11:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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bluemoon - 06 September 2012 08:02 PM
An update on the camera position. I like this on a lot, thanks for the tip Miss B.

Oh yes, much better. wink
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Posted: 07 September 2012 02:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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Ilena52 - 07 September 2012 07:54 AM
The image may look a bit different than the one before( had to reinstall the system ) but in my humble opinion I think the pose looks much better now. Currently doing some lighting testing and the first result follows.



I likey the lighting as well!
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Posted: 07 September 2012 03:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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Hey Folks, great work. I found a link one of our old friends had and you might like to get this file. Thanks to Sedor I can point you to the free 3D lighting tips book I was talking about. http://www.3dlightmaster.com/
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Posted: 07 September 2012 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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I tried to add a bit of DoF but it completely ruined my camera angle. Will save it with a new name and play around some more as I think it would help a lot.
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Posted: 07 September 2012 07:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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bluemoon - 07 September 2012 04:05 PM
I tried to add a bit of DoF but it completely ruined my camera angle. Will save it with a new name and play around some more as I think it would help a lot.

See, now that you changed your overall lighting to night rather than day, I don't think you need DOF at all, because she's brightly lit and popping right out of that background. I also see you added a little more space between her and the right edge. Right on! I think this is your best effort yet. wink

Edited to Add: And your trigger finger looks well positioned now.
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Posted: 07 September 2012 07:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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Jaderail - 04 September 2012 09:25 PM
DS has a Ambient Glow but that will not produce a REAL light. It works well for low light scenes then a fill light is needed for the spill effect.

Here is part of one I did about a year ago. The GUN is a free item I snagged from ShareCG. The Flash is a 3D effect from a pack here at DAZ3D. All this had to be posed by hand. By all this, I mean the Gun, hands and muzzle flash, the background set comes that way.

EDITED TWICE to clear things up.


Hi all, saw this and wondered whether the area lights in DS would create the effect you're after?

It doesn't seem much different to making eyes glow...


Interesting thread....love what I've seen so far.

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