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Posted: 24 September 2012 10:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 421 ]
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Most of the things one finds in the Poser section show up on other freebie sites as well. I dont know that this is as dire as one might initially think.

And when the traffic suddenly drops, I would bet that SCG re-thinks that decision.

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Posted: 24 September 2012 11:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 422 ]
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True, but the main ‘other’ site that I see a lot of the ShareCG freebies on is Rendo, and I personally prefer not to get my stuff from there - not because of the content, but a personality conflict with the staff whilst putting up a freebie.  I know of a few others who’ve had issues with Rendo as well.  There are also the smaller sites, like Chohole’s, MCD and PhilC’s which also have freebies on them.  It is terribly convenient to have them all in one place though, isn’t it?

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Posted: 24 September 2012 11:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 423 ]
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Sean Martin - 24 September 2012 10:52 PM

Most of the things one finds in the Poser section show up on other freebie sites as well. I dont know that this is as dire as one might initially think.

And when the traffic suddenly drops, I would bet that SCG re-thinks that decision.

I wouldn’t say most.  And some of the ones that do are of lesser quality I think.  Just my opinion.  Some of the ones that are also on Renderosity are actually linked to ShareCG.  Some freebie makers dropped out of Renderosity when they ruled that freebies listed must be there.  They seem to have rescinded that rule (I think I’ve seen some that linked to ShareCG), but I think some didn’t return afterwards.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 06:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 424 ]
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What that letter didn’t really make clear was whether ShareCG would become a wholly subscription or a subscription option to lose the ads and maybe gain some benefits like multiple downloads; larger file downloads/uploads etc.

I do agree that about 1/2 the freebies used in the challenges are hosted on ShareCG & it would have a serious impact if the subscription model was adopted.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 07:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 425 ]
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Sean Martin - 24 September 2012 10:52 PM

Most of the things one finds in the Poser section show up on other freebie sites as well. I dont know that this is as dire as one might initially think.

And when the traffic suddenly drops, I would bet that SCG re-thinks that decision.

(puts I.T. hat on) Nowadays, storage is cheap (unless you go with FiberChannel instead of SATA, but the download speeds they have don’t indicate this is the case). Bandwidth is expensive. They might want the traffic to drop…

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Posted: 25 September 2012 07:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 426 ]
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BWSman - 25 September 2012 06:33 AM

What that letter didn’t really make clear was whether ShareCG would become a wholly subscription or a subscription option to lose the ads and maybe gain some benefits like multiple downloads; larger file downloads/uploads etc.

Well, if they do go with a “subscription required” model, I’ll have quite a bit of deleting to do on all my freebies lists…

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Posted: 25 September 2012 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 427 ]
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I think that if they do go on a subscription basis we can count down the time that ShareCG is still alive in months at the most.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 07:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 428 ]
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Well, PoserWorld seems to do well enough as a pay site… but, from what I’ve seen of their downloads, they have stricter quality control than ShareCG does.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 07:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 429 ]
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Sean Martin - 24 September 2012 10:52 PM

Most of the things one finds in the Poser section show up on other freebie sites as well. I dont know that this is as dire as one might initially think.

And when the traffic suddenly drops, I would bet that SCG re-thinks that decision.

(puts I.T. hat on) Nowadays, storage is cheap (unless you go with FiberChannel instead of SATA, but the download speeds they have don’t indicate this is the case). Bandwidth is expensive. They might want the traffic to drop…

Keep in mind that it’s not the equipment or services costs that get you.  It’s the personnel.  Salaries + Benefits + Employment Taxes = $$$

I would also suspect that they have a rather hefty legal tab due to “DMCA Challenges” and such.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 08:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 430 ]
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robkelk - 25 September 2012 07:47 AM

Well, PoserWorld seems to do well enough as a pay site… but, from what I’ve seen of their downloads, they have stricter quality control than ShareCG does.


Yes, sure, although they are struggling. However it is not the same sort of site as ShareCG.  Poserworld it is mostly their own content, and only members freebies offered in the forum areas.  ShareCG was set up an maintained as a File sharing site, with all the content being submitted by members and the intellectual property off the members who submit the files.

As soon as they start charging membership, however little it is and expect people to 1) pay to upload the files they want to give away as freebies and 2) pay to download freebies           then I am afraid that they will close down sooner rather than later.

DO you remember the discussion there was when they decided to stop offering those who uploaded files a small payment, the number of people who said they would no longer offer freebies if they didn’t get anything back.  How much worse will it be if they now have to pay to give their stuff away.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 11:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 431 ]
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Hello guys.. came to see the updated renders, and send out the gift, and now I am.. really hmm.. shocked..

I mean shareCG became the go to place for freebies, for the freebie makers, nice system of distribution,. Now I understand that everything costs, and nowdays it is getting more expensive every day… I am having the feeling that pretty soon making freebies will be simply not affordable for people… It is pretty sad ...

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Posted: 25 September 2012 12:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 432 ]
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From the CEO’s letter:
“David Heller is CEO and President of IBSystems, Inc. and founded the company in 1994.”
And:
“ShareCG was conceived in 2007 at my son Jacob’s insistence. Jake’s now a lawyer, but even then his debate skills and logical thinking convinced us that there was a need to develop an open sharing site to bring together worldwide artists and animators of all levels of expertise.  Our goal was to provide a friendly and graphical platform that would be easy to use and perfect for presenting art, animation, 3D models and for delivering tutorials and other educational materials to help the site’s users display their creative achievements and become more proficient in their craft.”
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“Now, after five years of experiencing the banner ad model we have yet to generate the revenue needed to pay for this site.  In fact, ShareCG has been running in the red and only kept alive and supported by re-directing funds from our other properties.  But, just chugging along without being able to provide timely new innovations to our audience is not a solution for either us or for you.

We are considering changing the ShareCG business model from banner ads to a subscription model.  I am proposing that members subscribe at just $9.99 a year for a banner free ShareCG that will have the resources to add services that will make the site a better place to visit and that will bring the community closer together.”

What does seem clear to me from the CEO’s letter is that SCG will go into the Black or it will evaporate. Read it carefully…he is running a Company called IBSystems, Inc., not a Charity.
The bottom line is, no profit, no SCG, If people stop going there, the site will just die faster.
I hate to see freebies disappear, but I won’t be paying to stay there, either.
I worked for a company for 32 years before retirement and read a lot of letters from our CEOs. When they get far enough in the planning stage to announce publicly, “We are considering changing…” , in all likelihood, the decision to change has already been made.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 433 ]
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And yes, Krissy, I agree that it is pretty sad. It will feel a little like losing an old friend.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 434 ]
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Kendall Sears - 25 September 2012 07:52 AM

I would also suspect that they have a rather hefty legal tab due to “DMCA Challenges” and such.

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As far as I am aware complying with the DMCA is cheap for the hosting company - they get a notice, they take the product down and pass the notice on to the uploader. If the uploader sends a counter notice they reactivate the file and send the counter notice to the complainant. It should be a no-lawyers-involved process.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 435 ]
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tjohn - 25 September 2012 12:32 PM

And yes, Krissy, I agree that it is pretty sad. It will feel a little like losing an old friend.

Exactly.. No matter if freebie maker makes freebies just for fun, or is an aspire vendor polishing their skills and looking for feedback 9.99 can be a lot to some people. there is a lot of work put into the modeling, uvmapping and texturing. noone wants to yet pay to share their work . most of the sites that allow sharing for free offer not inough space for hosting a file, or you have to go trought the whole ordeal ro upload or download it.

 

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