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Neon type lights?
Posted: 30 August 2012 11:05 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Is there anyway to add neon type lights to your daz scenes like in the image? is there anything you can get for this?

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I don’t know if there are any products out there like that… but I do know of a way to simulate it….

For a straight bar type light like that the easiest way would be to create 3 cylinder primitives… and postion them so they overlap and then make each cylinder slightly larger than the one before it… but make sure they are the same length (Use the paramters dials to adjust the sizes of the cylinders)... Also not that the more cylinders you use the greater the range you can get in the next steps to simluate the glow effect…

layer the cylinders over one another and parent them together so that you can position them as one group…

In the surfaces tab… set either a base colour or texture for Diffuse (the colour you want you light to be), set the Specular colour and level of glossiness

Again in the surfaces tab set the Ambient colour for each cylinder… the lighter you make this colour the more the cylinder will seem to ‘Glow” in the scene… the inner most cylinder should have the lightest ambient setting with darker settings used as you move outward with the other cylinders…

Also in the surfaces tab use the Opacity settings to make each cylinder transparent… a setting of between 7 and 12% works well and simulates the fall-off of the glow…this is the reason for overlapping the cylinders and resizing them…


It may take a bit of fiddling around to get the effect you desire but if you experiment with this you should be able to acheive a reasonable effect…I used it in a scene to simulate laser beams and it works fairly well…. the best results are acheived by experimenting with varying the opacity and ambient settings for the cylinders…

As an extra option you can create a pointlight and set it so that it’s inside the inner most cylinder and then scale it out to match the size and shape of that cylinder… but that adds an extra level of difficulty to the set-up as you’ll need to experiment with the settings for the light to get the right effect from it…

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have done it on 3ds Max, but when I searched and searched the how toos for daz, I havn’t been able to achieve it on Daz downer

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Perhapse someone else here more skilled than I has a better way to acheive it than I’ve suggested….?

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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chrisschell - 31 August 2012 03:43 AM

Perhapse someone else here more skilled than I has a better way to acheive it than I’ve suggested….?

Not necessarily, I think you’ve got the right idea, if the brightness, ambiance, and Hue and Saturation was fiddled with I reckon it’d work! - Anything that exists in the real world IS possible in the 3D world. Just can take lots of trial and error lol

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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It worked fairly well for the laser effect in the sample image I posted… that point light would be nessessary if you want it to actually fucntion as a light… as opposed to just giving the appearance of a glowing bar… but it should be workable I think… and it could be exported as a prop so that it could be re-used…

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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When researching it in 3ds Max, Many tuts used ‘Many’ small and evenly spaced point lights along the glowing shaft. Requires lots though! In the end it was the parameters of the Render settings that had to be altered which removed the need for the point lights.

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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That may also be the case in Daz if you wish to get the best effect from it… but render settings can make a huge difference in any image…

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Render——- What I’m talking about in 3ds max. This actually took about 3 hours to render!!

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Posted: 31 August 2012 03:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Damn!... That looks great! smile

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Posted: 31 August 2012 04:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Lol, Thanks… I fell in love with the set on R.E. Had to make it work in 3D! lol

EDIT: R.E. = Resident Evil (Film)

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Posted: 31 August 2012 04:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I’m sure I saw a neon light from omnifreak in my Daz presets somewhere..Maybe you can copy those presets to your prop? Then Again I cannot remember if it came with a pack I bought or if it is standard in Daz. Marcus, that image is Fantastic!!

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Posted: 31 August 2012 05:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Yes, great image Marcus

There are Omnifreaker Uberarea Lights with DS4P, and one is a tube.  You can find them in My Library > Light Presets > Omnifreaker > UberAreaLight.  Being shader lights, they can take a bit of time to render, especially with hair in the scene, but you could give them a try?

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Posted: 31 August 2012 05:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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JimmyC_2009 - 31 August 2012 05:01 AM

Yes, great image Marcus

There are Omnifreaker Uberarea Lights with DS4P, and one is a tube.  You can find them in My Library > Light Presets > Omnifreaker > UberAreaLight.  Being shader lights, they can take a bit of time to render, especially with hair in the scene, but you could give them a try?

That’s true, but make sure you up the samples to reduce the noise in the final render! And Yes it certainly ups the render time. But hey you gotta sacrifice render time for good renders anyway tongue wink

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Posted: 01 November 2012 07:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Hello everyone.
Just found out about tube lights today.
I was not using it because I thought the noise was like part of its effect smile
I tried the above advise about increasing the sample.
It worked great in taking the noise off.
Just got 1 question though.
Is there a trick in lessening the render time?
Thanks a lot.

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Posted: 01 November 2012 07:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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The Reality plugin for DAZ studio can produce neon type lights. Users can set up meshlights using any model including tubes.

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