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Posted: 28 August 2012 08:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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SickleYield - 27 August 2012 10:57 PM

Supportive, but not signing (I’m not handing over my IRL contact info for that, sorry). 


I can’t imagine this won’t happen.  Genesis is all things to all people.  When 3rd party figures can find real support and an audience, there is clear and obvious market room for more diverse male support from DAZ itself.

I didn’t like the whole address thing either… I wrote Disclosed.

For the record, It wouldn’t surprise me if D5 is already made and waiting for the next release. Unfortunately, there must be a cooling off period since S5 was just released. At least from a business point of view, that would be the way of Daz’s thinking… Which I do understand to some point.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 09:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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@RAMWolff: The D5-based-on-M5 thing was part of my alternate idea (a new David character in lieu of an iconic D5). I’d agree that a stand-alone iconic D5 would be better. smile

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Posted: 28 August 2012 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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RAMWolff - 28 August 2012 08:46 AM

Signed from a link provided in another link.  I don’t mind my IRL being out there.  I sign political petitions all the time and find for the most part my information stays safe enough.  If Big Brother really wanted to contact you, trust me they already know about you!  lol. 

One point I don’t care for Scott’s list is

* a David body shape for Genesis, based at least partially on M5

No way, I want David to stand alone.  I HATE having to dial up another morph to get a full morph.  David should be David, not a mix of other morphs to make him.  YUK! 

Other than that I like the list Scott.  DAZ I hope your listening folks.  You wanna make money, then provide!  Keep pushing the girly stuff, starve!  Thanks!

To some extent I also agree with this statement… David 5 really shouldn’t be an imitation at all of M5… We already have M5 and the concept of David as a whole is to be a younger, less developed than M5 and shorter in stature.

While S5 is definitely beautiful, (and I’m sure some would disagree with me), She seems very much in likeness to V5, for me I felt she was another variant of V5 to co exist as one of her character expansions. Just my opinion, I am in no way intending to give the S5 a bad name.

    - Both S5 and D5 should be the canvas for our seemingly missing younger characters, something more usable for older teen characters for example   smile  For Me in terms of S5, Reby Sky was much more filling for this requirement.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 09:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Isn’t there already a genesis morph for David with several faces included?

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Posted: 28 August 2012 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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SereneNight - 28 August 2012 09:38 AM

Isn’t there already a genesis morph for David with several faces included?

Yes, this is true. And if you’re arguing that D5 isn’t necessary, technically I think you’re right: using existing morphs and textures we can make our own Davids with Genesis (as I’ve done here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/8017/), without the need for any additional versions by DAZ. But that misses the point.

After all, we already had Victoria, Michael, and Stephanie shapes for Genesis before the release of V5, M5, and S5—so you could similarly argue that new versions of these characters were unnecessary. But they were clearly wanted, they’ve clearly been successful*, they were certainly well-made, and they’ve greatly expanded the possibilities for Genesis character creation. D5 would do the same.

David 3 for Genesis is a very nice product, though…especially considering those extra faces. smile He’s infinitely better than no David at all. http://www.daz3d.com/shop/david-3-for-genesis

*well, it’s probably too early to tell as far as the success of S5 is concerned.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 11:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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marcusfinnigon - 28 August 2012 09:28 AM
RAMWolff - 28 August 2012 08:46 AM

Signed from a link provided in another link.  I don’t mind my IRL being out there.  I sign political petitions all the time and find for the most part my information stays safe enough.  If Big Brother really wanted to contact you, trust me they already know about you!  lol. 

One point I don’t care for Scott’s list is

* a David body shape for Genesis, based at least partially on M5

No way, I want David to stand alone.  I HATE having to dial up another morph to get a full morph.  David should be David, not a mix of other morphs to make him.  YUK! 

Other than that I like the list Scott.  DAZ I hope your listening folks.  You wanna make money, then provide!  Keep pushing the girly stuff, starve!  Thanks!

To some extent I also agree with this statement… David 5 really shouldn’t be an imitation at all of M5… We already have M5 and the concept of David as a whole is to be a younger, less developed than M5 and shorter in stature.

While S5 is definitely beautiful, (and I’m sure some would disagree with me), She seems very much in likeness to V5, for me I felt she was another variant of V5 to co exist as one of her character expansions. Just my opinion, I am in no way intending to give the S5 a bad name.

    - Both S5 and D5 should be the canvas for our seemingly missing younger characters, something more usable for older teen characters for example   smile  For Me in terms of S5, Reby Sky was much more filling for this requirement.

Exactly. I was JUST about to point that out myself. Stephanie has always had similar appearances to Victoria since her debut in Gen 2. I can personally attest the same for David & Michael 3. There were plenty times when I saw M3 with Wedge Cut Hair that I honestly mistook him for David.

SereneNight - 28 August 2012 09:38 AM

Isn’t there already a genesis morph for David with several faces included?

That’s right. As a matter of fact, if you look at the image I have, not only on the first page, but in my signature, it’s the Genesis Shape promotional image that I shopped black & white. wink But as Scott-Livingston explained, that’s not the point.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 11:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Its David 3!!! We need D5 Upgrade especially since they skipped him in gen 4

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Posted: 30 August 2012 11:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Hey guys! I am now spreading the word on over at Renderocity!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2855729

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Posted: 31 August 2012 06:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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I always liked David.

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Posted: 31 August 2012 06:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Count me in—I’d love a new David!

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Posted: 01 September 2012 12:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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I want the David 5 too smile

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Posted: 01 September 2012 11:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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For simple continuity if you have a Stephanie 5 you have to have a David 5.  It is my firm belief that a figure/shape should have a matching opposite gender counterpart.  I am beginning to come around to the idea that is would be wise to update all of DAZ’s classic figures to Generation 5 Genesis shape.  It would probably be less confusing to many of the newbies, if a product has a ‘Gen 5’ in the name they know it is for Genesis.

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Posted: 02 September 2012 12:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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...I wish there was the same passion expressed for David4.  When Steph4 was released there was a lot of hope, but then Genesis stole the show.

Steph4 made a great “Laura4” with the special morphs she had.  Unfortunately without D4, there could be no “Luke4”.

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Posted: 02 September 2012 09:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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jestmart - 01 September 2012 11:02 PM

For simple continuity if you have a Stephanie 5 you have to have a David 5.  It is my firm belief that a figure/shape should have a matching opposite gender counterpart.  I am beginning to come around to the idea that is would be wise to update all of DAZ’s classic figures to Generation 5 Genesis shape.  It would probably be less confusing to many of the newbies, if a product has a ‘Gen 5’ in the name they know it is for Genesis.

Absolutely! That’s one of the whole reasons what attracted me to DAZ after a friend of mine introduced me to it. Anything with a duality is appealing to me. Usually when I play around with Aiko & Hiro, I ship them as twins. For the longest time I was reluctant to warm up to Vicky & Mike because they were just too thick or stocky for my tastes, then I found out about Steph & Dave… smile

Kyoto Kid - 02 September 2012 12:45 AM

...I wish there was the same passion expressed for David4.  When Steph4 was released there was a lot of hope, but then Genesis stole the show.

Steph4 made a great “Laura4” with the special morphs she had.  Unfortunately without D4, there could be no “Luke4”.

No kidding! Trust me, I made that, among other things perfectly clear to MallenLane in a rather unhappy PM after the D3 Genesis Shape was released. That’s how I found out about how he felt like D4 wasn’t needed.

Hopefully this time around him and DAZ won’t make that same mistake.

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Posted: 02 September 2012 09:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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...unfortunately, I still work with the Gen4 figures so D5 is kind of moot.  Most likely Daz will come around and release him as they are so hot about pushing Genesis.

When I rebuilt my Steph4 based LeelaTeen in PP2010, I was amazed and thrilled at how perfect she looked compared to the DazStudio version.  As there is and never will be a David4, I cannot get the same results for a male teen character.

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