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SUPPORT THE DEMAND FOR DAVID 5
Posted: 27 August 2012 08:04 PM   [ Ignore ]
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As most of you probably already know by now, I am in the process of raising a little hell to ensure that DAZ 3D gives unto us a 5th Generation Iconic Shape for David. I have already created awareness of this in my General Gen 5 Iconic Character Thread, but this definitely requires to have its own spotlight if this enough attention and be even remotely effective.

As all of us who work with 3D human characters should know, David is a Millennium Male and complimentary brother figure to DAZ’s famous leading male model, Michael in the equivalent regard to the way Stephanie’s petite frame is to Victoria. Created by DAZ Community legend, MallenLane, in Generation 3 for DAZ Studio, David is a lean, pectoral “Real World” male as an alternative to the idealized, or rather, stocky structure to Michael. However, despite his well-positive reception and content support, David, like certain other figures by MallenLane, was not crossed over to Generation 4; this was all especially despite the fact that DAZ officials themselves promised such updates of the full Millennium Family roster. The cruel wound of disappointment was salted when Stephanie 4 was revealed as an Elite character for Victoria 4 with extra proportional parameters and unimesh support, including that of a teenager, yet this treatment would be deprived from the male side. It was eventually explained by both DAZ team members and MallenLane himself that the reason why there was no David 4 was due to personal feelings that Michael 4 had enough intermediate support that such a figure was not necessary.

Now that the latest version of Stephanie is upon us with the technological advancement of Genesis, the time has come to remind DAZ that, because of this very fact, is why it is more important now than ever that Genesis really does need to have as much option and versatility as possible. Not only that, but with DAZ’s new DSON Importer to Poser, this scenario has become relevant to the SmithMicro Community interested in investing in Genesis/Generation 5.

This is why I humbly ask as many of you as I can to participate in this demand and sign the following petition I constructed to help get DAZ to comply with this request. All signatures, from what I understand from Change.Org, the host of the petition generator used, are secure:

DAZ 3D: Create a Generation 5 David Iconic Shape

Also, if desired, you can don this self-made banner in your signature to openly show your patronage to, not only the cause, but to how you would be very much willing to invest in such a product:

SUPPORT DAVID 5 BANNER

Thank you all very much! With your help I sincerely hope that our favorite lean “Real World” brother finds his way back home with the rest of the Millennium Family where he rightfully belongs.

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Posted: 27 August 2012 08:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hey you got my support

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Posted: 27 August 2012 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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JohnDelaquiox - 27 August 2012 08:09 PM

Hey you got my support

Care to sign the petition, then? smile

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Posted: 27 August 2012 08:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Signed.  smile

I hope you can forgive me not adding the banner, though.  I’ve already got one and I’m not a fan of huge sig lines.

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Posted: 27 August 2012 08:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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same

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Posted: 27 August 2012 08:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Wouldn’t it just make economic sense for Daz to release a David 5 figure?

I mean, what have they got to lose?... Aside from the time and effort it takes to make him.


These characters all seem to come in bundles and are big events, so I wouldn’t put it past them probably trotting him out months from now.

Perhaps your petition might ultimately not be in vain :)

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Posted: 27 August 2012 09:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I’m in favor of anything that gives me a wider variety of options, especially realistic options.

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Posted: 27 August 2012 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I don’t even use Genesis, and I want to see this happen. I wanted a David 4, fer chrissakes! There was such a range of figures in Gen 3, and I don’t think we got quite half of them in Gen 4. If I have to use 4.5 and Genesis to get a new David figure, then by god, that’s what I’ll do… If we can get a David 5, that is…

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Posted: 27 August 2012 09:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Here’s what I posted in the petition:

“David needs to be made. Plain and simple. He is a complimentary figure to Michael as Stephanie is to Victoria and offers a more realistic version of a young male than does Michael. Make it, and money will appear. I guarantee it. Make a David 4 for Poser users as well, and you will have a happy crowd indeed.”

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Posted: 27 August 2012 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Supportive, but not signing (I’m not handing over my IRL contact info for that, sorry). 


I can’t imagine this won’t happen.  Genesis is all things to all people.  When 3rd party figures can find real support and an audience, there is clear and obvious market room for more diverse male support from DAZ itself.

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Posted: 27 August 2012 11:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Signed on with the following thoughts:
“The main thrust of Genesis, is variety & diversity.  We’ve seen the technology allow for support for a number of legacy shapes & figures within this forward thinking system. Just as Stephanie has made her way into the “Gene Pool” not once but twice as legacy Gen4 & now version 5 for Genesis, I think the same courtesy should be extended to the male gender.  Just as not every woman is an Amazonian supermodel, not every man is “Superman” in stature & proportion.  Keep the ball of progress moving forward & integrate the same real world scan diversity you have brought the community with Stephanie 5 with David for Genesis. I’ll be first in line to add this to my shape library, along with many others.”

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Posted: 28 August 2012 07:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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RKane_1 - 27 August 2012 09:47 PM

Here’s what I posted in the petition:

“David needs to be made. Plain and simple. He is a complimentary figure to Michael as Stephanie is to Victoria and offers a more realistic version of a young male than does Michael. Make it, and money will appear. I guarantee it. Make a David 4 for Poser users as well, and you will have a happy crowd indeed.”

Honestly, I suggested that as well. It’s evident with the V4 & M4 Pro Suites that DAZ still acknowledges support for Gen 4, especially with the Poser Community’s uncomfortable view of Genesis. So to see a D4 would definitely make the company more money from them again. However, according to team members, there’s something going on with Genesis that they claim will make Poser users very happy.

But wow! I’m REALLY liking what I’m seeing. You guys are actually giving far better reasons than what I’m pitching! Keep it up! smile

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Posted: 28 August 2012 07:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Got my signature! Yes to David.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 08:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Signed the D5 petition.  I have an alternate idea, though…in case DAZ has already ruled out putting in the effort necessary to create a “base” D5 to go along with V5, M5, and S5 (and to reiterate, I do hope to see a new iconic D5 like this), in my opinion the next best thing would be for DAZ to commission one or two of their talented PAs to create a “David for M5 and M4” character that would include at minimum:

* a David elite texture set based on M4 UV maps
* a David body shape for Genesis, based at least partially on M5
* a David head shape for Genesis (or better yet, several)
* a David head INJ/REM for M4
* a David Morphs++ body INJ/REM for M4

Judging from the comments here so far, I think there’s still a good amount of demand for a 4th Generation David, and this would kind of kill two birds with one stone. How does that sound?

Other features I’d like to see in a new David:

* a David Athletic additive body shape, adding a little height, shoulder width, and muscle definition (but not to the extent of M5 Heroic)...perhaps modeled on Michelangelo’s David
* several alternate heads
* several texture options for body/facial hair, eye colors, etc.
* a alternate, younger version of the body shape

Basically I’d like to either see a younger, leaner M5…or a “David-like” character combining the best elements of products like Doyle for M5 and M4, Ashley for M5, and David 3 for Genesis, with a new elite texture.

Oh, thanks for putting this on change.org. At first I thought that decision was a little strange, but after signing I found a bunch of other stuff there that I was happy to add my support to, so I’m glad you did.

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Posted: 28 August 2012 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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add me in for a David 5

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Posted: 28 August 2012 08:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Signed from a link provided in another link.  I don’t mind my IRL being out there.  I sign political petitions all the time and find for the most part my information stays safe enough.  If Big Brother really wanted to contact you, trust me they already know about you!  lol. 

One point I don’t care for Scott’s list is

* a David body shape for Genesis, based at least partially on M5

No way, I want David to stand alone.  I HATE having to dial up another morph to get a full morph.  David should be David, not a mix of other morphs to make him.  YUK! 

Other than that I like the list Scott.  DAZ I hope your listening folks.  You wanna make money, then provide!  Keep pushing the girly stuff, starve!  Thanks!

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