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This phenomenon is most easily seen on women because of their breasts, or extremely well defined figures in general. The clothing becomes like a second skin. This works for some things, but I find it extremely strange when I see a shirt stuck to the figure closer than any shirt I’ve ever seen.

Is there a way to get a more realistic shape on clothing?

There is a product that helps with the breast “sticking” available here:

http://www.daz3d.com/shop/clothing-cleavage-modifier

It’s part of the crappy morph transfer system they use and it’s been like this since DS3, if your item is meant to be skin tight then it works well, but it’s pretty much useless for anything else.

You either need D-Forms or learn how to make the morphs in a modeling program.

I’ve seen some references to the new push modifier in 4.5 being a solution, but I’ve not had a chance to play with it yet to see how well it works.

ETA: Okay, I’ve had a quick play, the Push modifier allows you to specify an offset between an item and the item it is conforming to. Given that clothing doesn’t have a fixed offset between skin and cloth that’s not ideal, but it is one more tool than we had before.

Bejaymac - 21 August 2012 03:26 AM

It’s part of the crappy morph transfer system they use and it’s been like this since DS3, if your item is meant to be skin tight then it works well, but it’s pretty much useless for anything else.

You either need D-Forms or learn how to make the morphs in a modeling program.

Pretty much all the automatic converters had this problem. I’ve seen it in the Tailor, Wardrobe Wizard & Crossdresser. I haven’t used XD4 enough to know whether that has the problem too.

If you’re a poser user and can’t use the Clothing Cleavage Modifier, there are several characters by Kaposer that include a fix.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=239064&category=allitems

Xanna, Naika and the V4 Easy Breast System include The Fixer.

Some clothes may also include one or more “loosen” morphs, and those may help.

What I really wish for is a drape simulation that could be run after the clothing is conformed to Genesis and adjusts for size and shape, combined with a “fitted” control that would allow the user to crank back the degree to which the clothing adjusts to the figure shape.

DWG - 21 August 2012 05:09 AM

I’ve seen some references to the new push modifier in 4.5 being a solution, but I’ve not had a chance to play with it yet to see how well it works.

ETA: Okay, I’ve had a quick play, the Push modifier allows you to specify an offset between an item and the item it is conforming to. Given that clothing doesn’t have a fixed offset between skin and cloth that’s not ideal, but it is one more tool than we had before.

In my experience using the Push Modifier doesn’t really do that.  It thickens up the item ... a slider is then provided to give you control over how thick it goes. 

In 4.5, you can also zero the offending morphs (such as muscle detail) on clothes (as they pick the morphs from bodies).

Clothing Cleavage Modifier is an absolute must. So far the only solution that works. Very worthy purchase.

Zev0 - 21 August 2012 03:52 PM

Clothing Cleavage Modifier is an absolute must. So far the only solution that works. Very worthy purchase.

Well, unless a specific clothing item has morphs to specifically not follow the cleavage. I tend to at least include that for at least the major female morphs…

Valandar - 21 August 2012 06:30 PM

Zev0 - 21 August 2012 03:52 PM

Clothing Cleavage Modifier is an absolute must. So far the only solution that works. Very worthy purchase.

Well, unless a specific clothing item has morphs to specifically not follow the cleavage. I tend to at least include that for at least the major female morphs…

And I, for one, am grateful that you do! I just wish there was a better general solution that could be built into the base figures, or better yet, DS.

I have this issue *ALL* the time with the supercape shoulders adhering to the character’s upper arms in strange loops, when the shoulder is pushed too far back. It is super annoying, because it means I must push the arm forward more than I want to in certain poses.  Pose adjustment- for me, has been my only way to resolve this problem.