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Posted: 24 August 2012 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 91 ]
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That sounds more like Genesis in Poser. 

Odd you have so much trouble with V4 and clothing in Poser.  I not only morph the poor dear till she cries, but will lengthen or shorten arms/legs/torso/etc., and may have a few problem spots ... which are easily fixed ... with her clothing, but I’ve never had her clothes all go to hell.

Not unless I put someone else’s clothing on her and made the mistake of conforming them.

Kendall Sears - 21 August 2012 09:51 PM

I don’t use “old Poser” characters because they look like crap.  I don’t use “new Poser” characters because I’ve become spoiled with auto-fit.  It just takes too much effort (in comparison) to clothe a “Poser” or Gen4 character any more.  Every time I bring in V4, then morph her, the clothes all go to hell.  At that point I decide that in the time it would take to just “fix” the pokethru I could have a Genesis loaded, morphed, posed, haired, clothed, positioned, and working on the next Genesis in the frame.

Why would I ask for adding more work to my day?  I’d more likely ask the Poser Only character creators to create a Genesis version.  But you know what?  I’m not interested in causing angsty threads at Rendo or RDNA to ask for them.  I’ll do without rather than cause undue strife over a 3D character.  Besides, it wouldn’t be that hard to make a Genesis clone of just about any figure with just a few dials.  Alexa is becoming a pro at that very thing.

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Posted: 24 August 2012 05:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 92 ]
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I have been thru this so many times…

Bottom line is this…

In every majorRelease of a generation figure from day one at Zygote thru DAZ its still the same thing…
People will be un-happy because they cant get this or that to work…

“I am Leaving and thats it”

But then we find out that they were wrong…

It does come down to what you can do with these figures and THATS it…
If you have a problem of haveing BOUGHT morphs for pre Genesis aka V1234 and M1234 you can buy a plugin that will convert YOUR morphs into Genesis…So saying that there are NO excuses..

What can I say…The ability to take Genesis beyound normal thinking is so freakin awesome…

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Posted: 25 August 2012 05:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 93 ]
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larsmidnatt - 24 August 2012 06:01 AM

you are quite vocal.

My reputation precedes me!

And I think all gen3 clothing I’ve bought thinking I could use on genesis never works out. So I’ve been burnt there too many times. Even with smoothing off or very low the items have too many issues.

This is what I was referring to: shirt, jeans, boots and gloves are M3 Lone Wolf, Sheepskin Jacket is M3 Daedalus Sky Mercenary - pretty much bought Sky Mercenary just for the sheepskin jacket.

It still needs some work on the posing and lighting, but all the clothing is autofitted Gen 3 and I think it works just fine in this case.

 

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Posted: 25 August 2012 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 94 ]
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i dont doubt that it works, just not all the time. i use a lot of my gen4 stuff, sometimes it does take some extra time to work right but in most cases its pretty smooth. gen3 has a lower success rate for me.

gen5 has the highest success rate so i like that reliability. i dont plan to stop using my old content, but i dont want to buy stuff that might not work.

also i do a lot of close ups so minor fitting or smoothing issues are more detremental than when rendering a scene

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Posted: 28 August 2012 10:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 95 ]
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EClark1849 - 23 August 2012 11:53 AM

If you want the figures to work in Studio, ask DAZ about it. If not, then don’t complain if newly created figures don’t work in Studio.

And yet, the reverse doesn’t seem to be true.

not entirely accurate..
customers have asked on both sides of the equation..
daz where asked about supporting the new poser figures and rigging and the answer was along the lines of - it wasn’t the direction they where going to take - at the time they where developing Daz Studio 4 and Genesis
so it isn’t all that different from the reason given by Smith Micro as to why they wouldn’t currently support Genesis when customers asked if they would support the new daz figure

I’m referring specifically to what EClark said:

EClark1849 - 23 August 2012 11:53 AM

If you want the figures to work in Studio, ask DAZ about it. If not, then don’t complain if newly created figures don’t work in Studio.

I was wondering if he also tells Poser users to ask SM if they want Genesis in Poser, and if they don’t care about Genesis in Poser they shouldn’t complain.

I’m not saying, BTW, that I agree with him, just wondering if he says the same thing in the reciprocal situation.  I haven’t seen him saying it on these forums, but perhaps he does on other forums.

Truth be told, I haven’t seen the need to do so.  Fact is, I usually don’t participate in Genesis related threads anymore. Too much hostility. Since the comment was about other figures not working in DS. I responded.

As for the last part, I’ve never told anyone whether they use Genesis or not, to not complain or not to ask SM, if they want the figure (or is it platform) to work in Poser. Have you?

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Posted: 28 August 2012 09:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 96 ]
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EClark1849 - 28 August 2012 10:11 AM
fixmypcmike - 23 August 2012 01:20 PM

I’m referring specifically to what EClark said:

EClark1849 - 23 August 2012 11:53 AM

If you want the figures to work in Studio, ask DAZ about it. If not, then don’t complain if newly created figures don’t work in Studio.

I was wondering if he also tells Poser users to ask SM if they want Genesis in Poser, and if they don’t care about Genesis in Poser they shouldn’t complain.

I’m not saying, BTW, that I agree with him, just wondering if he says the same thing in the reciprocal situation.  I haven’t seen him saying it on these forums, but perhaps he does on other forums.

Truth be told, I haven’t seen the need to do so.  Fact is, I usually don’t participate in Genesis related threads anymore. Too much hostility. Since the comment was about other figures not working in DS. I responded.

As for the last part, I’ve never told anyone whether they use Genesis or not, to not complain or not to ask SM, if they want the figure (or is it platform) to work in Poser. Have you?

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking.  I’ve never told anyone not to complain, whether they asked DAZ 3D, SM, both, or neither.  I interpreted your statement quoted above as meaning:
(a) if you want P8 or P9 figures to work in DAZ Studio, ask DAZ 3D to provide support for them, and
(b) if you don’t care about those figures, don’t complain.
If I’m misinterpreting what you meant, my apologies.  If I haven’t misinterpreted, then I’m just curious if you say the same in the reverse situation, as I have heard people who say they aren’t interested in Genesis nonetheless complain about it not working in Poser.

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Posted: 29 August 2012 09:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 97 ]
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fixmypcmike - 28 August 2012 09:19 PM
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fixmypcmike - 23 August 2012 01:20 PM

I’m referring specifically to what EClark said:

EClark1849 - 23 August 2012 11:53 AM

If you want the figures to work in Studio, ask DAZ about it. If not, then don’t complain if newly created figures don’t work in Studio.

I was wondering if he also tells Poser users to ask SM if they want Genesis in Poser, and if they don’t care about Genesis in Poser they shouldn’t complain.

I’m not saying, BTW, that I agree with him, just wondering if he says the same thing in the reciprocal situation.  I haven’t seen him saying it on these forums, but perhaps he does on other forums.

Truth be told, I haven’t seen the need to do so.  Fact is, I usually don’t participate in Genesis related threads anymore. Too much hostility. Since the comment was about other figures not working in DS. I responded.

As for the last part, I’ve never told anyone whether they use Genesis or not, to not complain or not to ask SM, if they want the figure (or is it platform) to work in Poser. Have you?

I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking.  I’ve never told anyone not to complain, whether they asked DAZ 3D, SM, both, or neither.  I interpreted your statement quoted above as meaning:
(a) if you want P8 or P9 figures to work in DAZ Studio, ask DAZ 3D to provide support for them, and
(b) if you don’t care about those figures, don’t complain.
If I’m misinterpreting what you meant, my apologies.  If I haven’t misinterpreted, then I’m just curious if you say the same in the reverse situation, as I have heard people who say they aren’t interested in Genesis nonetheless complain about it not working in Poser.

As I’ve said in this thread and elsewhere, I can’t get at Genesis to use it because Studio doesn’t run on my machine.  So honestly, I don’t really give a rodent’s hindquarters as to whether in works in Poser or not. If anyone else really wants it to work in Poser, then they should take it up with SM.

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Posted: 18 September 2012 11:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 98 ]
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. . . SickleYield and several other PA’s have stated, in the past, how much more work supporting Gen4 characters are than Genesis.  They’ve also discussed how little returns they get G4 vs Gn . . .

I’m wondering, is this a good place for PAs to pair up?  One makes the original product for their preferred generation, then hands it off to the other for a pro-level conversion (yes, for Mil4 to Genesis Autofits’s gotten lots better, but still), then they both release their products at the same time (with a bundle for the bundle-lovers, that’d be nice).  The Genesis-loving PA doesn’t have to take the Mil4-work risk, the Mil4-forever PA doesn’t have to touch Genesis, both tap their respective markets without cutting into each other’s profits, and neither gets hit with “but why not for mine?” complaints.

Not sure what the most equitable monetary arrangement would be for that, but (from my non-PA perspective, of course) I’d think it’d work out great for everybody!  And even better for the texture-product PAs, since they’ll get customers from both the Genesis and Mil4 pools.

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Posted: 18 September 2012 11:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 99 ]
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Posted: 19 September 2012 02:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 100 ]
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Oh boy, where on “100” and so many around here, that didn’t leave smile
or all curious about what that exciting program be Sssoooooon

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Posted: 19 September 2012 08:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 101 ]
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SLoTH_XVX - 20 August 2012 04:12 PM

DAZ has been hinting at Genesis becoming compatable with Poser, so I think jumping ship at this point might be a little premature.

With that being said why are people compelled to create a thread that they are leaving?

I don’t mean to sound cold or mean but why not just leave quietly? Why must people always make a spectical of leaving?

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I figured I’d give my own answer to this question.

I see this a lot on the internet but primarily on gaming forums, especially MMOs. If someone is quitting an MMO they seem to have a compulsive need to post why they’re quitting. It happens often enough that gamers have a standard snarky response “can I have your stuff?” and I have, at times, nearly posted it in some of the “I quit!” threads especially because they all list pretty much exactly the same reasons and never add anything new to the discussion.

I’ve seen enough of those posts that my attitude has gradually morphed from “I understand and hope SM and Daz figure out a way to make everyone happy” to well…less understanding.

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Posted: 19 September 2012 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 102 ]
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Jaderail - 20 August 2012 05:23 PM

I say DAZ should apologize for inventing a new Mesh that can be almost any shape that a modeler wishes it to be. Can use multiple UV maps and textures right out of the box. Can use 90% or more of the old Gen3 and Gen4 figures clothing items without trouble. And then they make the new mesh figure so easy to build clothing for that Artist can develop items so much easier and faster than ever before that they prefer the new figure over all the work needed to make the same item for the older figures. Just Who does DAZ think it is?

I mean really. Blah… nuff said.

No. The only thing Daz needs to apologize for is telling Poser users a year ago that they would continue to support them in the PC, and for Poser users just to hang on for a bit longer…. That we’re hearing this again is grounds for serious annoyance.

The rest is pure business and totally reasonable.

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Posted: 19 September 2012 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 103 ]
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EClark1849 - 20 August 2012 04:32 PM

I didn’t leave DAZ. DAZ left me.grin

You know, it’s just weird seeing myself listed as a “New Member” when I’ve been around since Poser 2.

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Posted: 19 September 2012 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 104 ]
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Velvet Goblin - 19 September 2012 08:18 AM

No. The only thing Daz needs to apologize for is telling Poser users a year ago that they would continue to support them in the PC, and for Poser users just to hang on for a bit longer…. That we’re hearing this again is grounds for serious annoyance.

The rest is pure business and totally reasonable.

Seems like they have good intent but can’t seem to keep up with it. Which is definitely annoying. Unfortunately they are also fairly secretive(from what I can see) and we never get any solid plan of action. So in those cases I choose not to trust the speaker even if I trust their intent.

But I can understand wanting to keep the dream alive.

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Posted: 19 September 2012 03:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 105 ]
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Joe Gerardi - 22 August 2012 07:01 AM

[snip, snip] . . .  Never mind that there were bug reports in DS3 that were ignored for more than 2 years, just pissing off loyal customers while DAZ went in this new direction.
. . . [snip]

 

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