Okay, after much corner breathing I have edited my thoughts down to a post and made sure that it succinct and non-inflammatory…
(at least I hope it is… I feel I have some good points and it is relevant to the original posters post…. so here goes)
I do not like the assertion that DS users are the “them” and M4 and V4 users are the “us”? No. I reject that. We are all DAZ model users and divisive rhetoric attempting to separate people into “us” and “them” is one of the core problems with discussions such as those in this thread. If you can safely start a debate with “People like you…” or “You people…” then please analyze what you say before you say it. We are all DAZ model users. Some use a more tried and true model of theirs with tons of support everywhere. I use a newer, more experimental version with some interesting features. Both have their merits and drawbacks.
If you insult a group of users or the product they love, then they are liable to get up in arms regarding the matter. I would not insult V4 or M4 as they are great figures in and of themselves. One could make a case for either figure over Genesis for users not only of Poser but DAZ Studio with the robust amount of support available at many sites including this one for those two models. The sheer variety of items available for them is astounding.
Many are upset because DAZ does not produce as much V4 and M4 figure(s) specific content as they used to. It’s like the older sibling becoming jealous of the newer one because of the parent’s attention but, the number of items available here for V4 and M4 dwarf those for Genesis. Add to this the support of items from other sites and that Genesis is not being as supported by those sites yet. The big picture is that V4 and M4 have THOUSANDS of products for their use here and also at other locations. Genesis is still in the hundreds comparatively.
DAZ is catching up to help support their new product. Content for V4 and M4 is still being produced and there are many items that are not specific to figure that are being produced as well that may make DAZ and the Platinum Club still worthwhile for an exclusive user of V4 and M4.
But what I don’t enjoy or understand is rattling the saber with the threat of leaving instead of just leaving. DAZ is a business. If they see a drop in sales, they have enough presence of mind to adapt and begin creating more content for V4 and M4. If they see that they can make more of a profit by creating Genesis content, then they will continue down that path despite what any posts in this forum state to the contrary.
For those threatening to leave the Platinum Club: If your basis of comparison is ONLY the number of items they are producing currently for V4 and M4 min comparison to the past output in it’s heyday when they were newer, then I could see your point. The Platinum Club, I can frankly understand leaving for the time being if it does not benefit you as much currently, but the sheer “moral outrage” manufactured by the overly dramatic assertions that someone is leaving because of it when, in actuality, they are just venting and want to stir the pot themselves in hopes DAZ will drop everything they have in the works for Genesis and come to their beck and call is irritating to those who use the product they are busy supporting.
I respect those who state they are leaving and then do. Those who rant endlessly after stating they are leaving just annoy me and many others, I would imagine. So if those people get backlash, I am sure you can understand why.
Those who like Genesis and those who stick with V4 and M4, are seeing things from a different perspective. Both feel they have valid points. I would indeed be less than happy about some of the changes in the Platinum Club if I were to stick to Poser and V4 and M4, exclusively. I guess the difference is, I would not make a big deal out of it. I would simply leave and take my dollars and go elsewhere knowing that either DAZ will “get with the program” or they won’t and my dollars are being well-spent for my needs elsewhere. Right now, I am a DAZ Studio user and spending my money here suits my needs.
I am wondering if something similar to this happen when DAZ came out with Gen 4 over Gen 3? I am sure those people who invested so much into Gen 3 may have been resentful their favorite model; did not have as many new products, if any, coming out for it anymore.
The difference is if you are exclusively a Poser user, you cannot use their newest product Genesis which, I can better understand staying with if that is the case. Poser has many items I would love to see in DAZ (Dynamic clothing that can be manufactured outside of Optitex being the most glaring one.). I would love to see that in DAZ Studio.
I am supporting the original posters desire to leave the Platinum Club and I encourage it. It is good business sense both in the perspective of a Poser user who cannot use much of the content currently being put out. But before you do, you may want to make sure you have EVERYTHING you need purchased from the store while the sales are hot. I cannot imagine someone having purchased all of the V4 and M4 content here but I do understand only buying what you need or want.
And I do feel if Genesis were to suddenly become available in Poser with no hiccups and usable to the same extent it is with DAZ Studio, then we would see much of this saber-rattling regarding leaving DAZ altogether or just the Platinum Club end as it is a great figure for the program I use. I can only imagine how many more things might be possible in Poser with it. I believe it is the way of things, though. A newer product with many benefits comes along and replaces an older one. DAZ makes more profit for supporting a new product. When Renderosity and RuntimeDNA start picking up Genesis more, perhaps we will see a Genesis 2.0 ... or a Millenium Cow.
Have a nice day!
And I still like turtles!