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What I am saying has nothing to do with animation. I would use Genesis in a heartbeat because I love the concept but because the programs I use and our own programs we use in house using Genesis is not possible. The main sticking point is that Daz Studio native files can’t be read in apps outside of Daz Studio. This is something Daz needs to work on if it ever wants to move forward outside of just a hobby or amateur level. This is what I was referring too not some animation. Daz has something but they can’t continue to squander it if they want to grow and push Genesis to a higher level.

Isikol - 20 August 2012 03:53 PM

you should make it sticky!

Last time someone said that he did… Took months to get the stain out of the carpet.

PaganArtist - 21 August 2012 06:12 PM

What I am saying has nothing to do with animation. I would use Genesis in a heartbeat because I love the concept but because the programs I use and our own programs we use in house using Genesis is not possible. The main sticking point is that Daz Studio native files can’t be read in apps outside of Daz Studio. This is something Daz needs to work on if it ever wants to move forward outside of just a hobby or amateur level. This is what I was referring too not some animation. Daz has something but they can’t continue to squander it if they want to grow and push Genesis to a higher level.

I apologize I didn’t mean for my comment to be directed to you. I actually was talking with DWG

You know that Poser has Plugins called poserfusion which will allow for Poser models to be imported or bridge into Maya , lightwave, cinema 4D & 3dMax. If you own Poser the plugins are free,all you need is your serial #

http://poser.smithmicro.com/poserfusion.html

Genesis works fine in carrara 8.5.

ManStan - 21 August 2012 06:38 PM

Genesis works fine in carrara 8.5.

I don’t use carrara, Though I like some of the stuff I have seen done with it.
But I have yet to see genesis animated properly in carrara, do you have any examples?

I use Daz & poser and come Sept when class starts I’ll start learning Maya

ManStan - 21 August 2012 06:38 PM

Genesis works fine in carrara 8.5.

Hey Stan

You got Genesis working fine?
I have been hearing about people with problems.
Glad to see some people have it worked out.

Haven’t seen any animations from you in awhile.
Have you been animating Genesis too?

Ivy - 21 August 2012 06:45 PM

ManStan - 21 August 2012 06:38 PM

Genesis works fine in carrara 8.5.

I don’t use carrara, Though I like some of the stuff I have seen done with it.
But I have yet to see genesis animated properly in carrara, do you have any examples?

I use Daz & poser and come Sept when class starts I’ll start learning Maya

Bigh posted a genesis animation in the genesis render thread that he did in Carrara…

I don’t do animations but I really admire t he skills of people who do.

Can’t say I have worked much with genesis, I’m not that impressed. We could have had a genesis like character in carrara the day DAZ bought it. Weight mapped figures are absolutely nothing new to carrara.
But there are some animations of genesis in studio’s dynamic clothes, DUFed to carrara for staging. Carrara animates DAZ’s non beta figures quite well.

“I use Daz & poser and come Sept when class starts I’ll start learning Maya”

Oh are you in for a surprise. Little if any of what you learn using studio or poser is going to apply in maya. Little of what you have bought for studio or poser will work in Maya; not with out a lot of work on your part. Genesis certainly wont work in it. Maya isn’t just a horse of a different color, it is a completely different species.

None the less, carrara has a lot more animation tools then studio or poser,  It’s a lot closer to Maya then studio or poser in that respect.

Pendraia - 22 August 2012 05:19 AM

Ivy - 21 August 2012 06:45 PM

ManStan - 21 August 2012 06:38 PM

Genesis works fine in carrara 8.5.

I don’t use carrara, Though I like some of the stuff I have seen done with it.
But I have yet to see genesis animated properly in carrara, do you have any examples?

I use Daz & poser and come Sept when class starts I’ll start learning Maya

Bigh posted a genesis animation in the genesis render thread that he did in Carrara…

I don’t do animations but I really admire t he skills of people who do.

I seen all BigH’s ” Test”  animation, he has nothing in story format &  they are less than 30 seconds and doesn’t use any special effects in them.  Plus all of them give a perfect example of what i am talking about with the poke through and Figure distortions when you animating Genesis in Daz studio.
Sorry Big H this is not a attack on you of you animation personally.

Believe me when genesis first came out I was very excited. I though very cool something new we can use in transformations. of characters.
then i started working with Genesis and working and working.  it turned out to be way more work animating and fixing issues caused by genesis during the animation story process using studio than it was worth.
that has always been my complaint. That and the fact you can no longer share gen5 content with poser. unless you jump through a bunch of hoops too make things fit.

when you make a animation and spend hours just try to make the scenes and animate everything in the scene to make it look right and then you start animations on the genesis character you end up spending more time trying to get to to work than you did the rest of the scene animation I was very disappointed with genesis in animation.

But I am Patient I am sure someday. Daz will get their program back to former glory. But until then
I won;t be buying gen5 products there is nothing you can do with gen5 in animation that I can’t do with gen4

I started to animate this 8 minute film I did in genesis and it turned out impossible to do so, at the 1.33 minute Mark when i could not fix the poke throughs. i finished it in Poser and daz3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyjJhIzmCwM
This the kind of examples of animation I am talking about using genesis I would like to see.

Genesis for still graphic work is great, for animation not so much.

PaganArtist - 21 August 2012 06:12 PM

I would use Genesis in a heartbeat because I love the concept but because the programs I use and our own programs we use in house using Genesis is not possible. The main sticking point is that Daz Studio native files can’t be read in apps outside of Daz Studio. This is something Daz needs to work on

That’s why DAZ has switched to DSON format with DS4.5.

DAZ_bfurner - 20 August 2012 02:33 PM

I can’t give any details, but you Poser users will be in heaven.

Wow. Well, at least the greatest website change catastrophe that I ever witnessed has humbled DAZ ^^

Whatever you have cooking for Poser users - by the sound of that statement it must be a lot better than the stuff I’m using in DAZ Studio

DAZ_bfurner - 20 August 2012 02:33 PM

sunfirexed - 20 August 2012 11:53 AM

Since Daz has moved all hysterically to Genesis I’m afraid the site have nothing to offer for me. So I will not renew my membership like many others. I have been a member for many years and really love V3-V4 and poser stuff, the platinum club stuff has decreased dramatically and not releasing props like they used to do.And I’m not a DS person. This is so sad, cause I enjoy this store. Good luck!
Victor

I think if you will stick with us over the next couple of months, you will be very pleasantly surprised with the direction we are going with Genesis. I can’t give any details, but you Poser users will be in heaven. Stay tuned to the DAZ 3D Channel.

Ummm….

...Already done this…

...Several times.

We are seeing a lot of users taking DAZ content, including Genesis to Maya using the FBX exporter. I was working with a TV studio who uses DAZ Content, DAZ Studio and Maya. They are successfully taking figures of all kind to Maya using the FBX Exporter from DAZ Studio.

There are a lot of settings in the FBX Exporter tool, so experimenting with the settings will offer different results. So be creative in trying different settings. But it is working and many are using it successfully.

All y’all are wrong. Due to the looming disaster known as Windows 8, DAZ will finally make a 64bit Linux version.

DAZ_bfurner - 22 August 2012 10:57 AM

We are seeing a lot of users taking DAZ content, including Genesis to Maya using the FBX exporter. I was working with a TV studio who uses DAZ Content, DAZ Studio and Maya. They are successfully taking figures of all kind to Maya using the FBX Exporter from DAZ Studio.

There are a lot of settings in the FBX Exporter tool, so experimenting with the settings will offer different results. So be creative in trying different settings. But it is working and many are using it successfully.

Really??  I would love to see some Animation examples of Genesis used in Maya. I know they are doing it with poser.  Wbcy Channel 5 has done it with the General Insurance advertizements using poser with Maya. Y’all properly have seen those ads they have been doing it a while they are using poserfusion plugins instead of FBX
I start class using Maya and Mudbox @ Tennessee State come Sept 5. I’m very excited about it.
I should be getting my student voucher soon for the Autodesk suite within the next day or 2

Do you have any examples? I would love to see what can be done with maya & daz