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GenX and DSF Toolbox Updates for DS 4.5
Posted: 15 March 2013 03:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 226 ]
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Thanks for the prompt reply.  If all Gen 4 figures are supported, then how come the product page says:

“GenX includes support for Victoria 4 and Michael 4. Further figures will be supported by add-ons.”  plus the pictures only show V4 and M4, suggesting the product only supports those two…

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Posted: 15 March 2013 04:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 227 ]
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There are only 3 genuine gen 4 figures: Victoria 4, Michael 4, and Kids 4. Victoria 4 and Michael 4 are supported directly by GenX. Kids 4 is supported by GenX, but you have to convert the Kids 4 clone morph (for auto-fit) into a working morph for Genesis with adjusted joints. No add-ons are required for these three figures.

The other gen 4 figures are not really own figures, even if they come with their own CR2. Aiko 4, Stephanie 4, Girl 4, and SheFreak 4 are morphs for Victoria 4, so GenX can transfer them. The same holds for Hiro 4 and Freak 4, which are just morphs for Michael 4. GenX can load their CR2s as well as inject their morphs into V4 or M4 base figures. The promo images for GenX include morphs for some of them (Aiko 4, Girl 4, Hiro 4, Freak 4).

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Posted: 15 March 2013 04:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 228 ]
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Dimension3D - 15 March 2013 04:05 AM

Kids 4 is supported by GenX, but you have to convert the Kids 4 clone morph (for auto-fit) into a working morph for Genesis with adjusted joints. No add-ons are required for these three figures.
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Is there any chance for a tutorial how to do that?

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Posted: 15 March 2013 04:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 229 ]
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The simple way to get the Kids 4 clone morph into a working morph is to use my DSF Toolbox. This is a one click solution, too simple to require a tutorial.

The alternative is to use the internal tools of DS Pro. As far as I know, it should be possible, but I haven’t tried myself in detail, so I can’t provide the steps about how to do it. I don’t know if someone else made a tutorial for this.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 04:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 230 ]
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Thanks for taking the time to answer! smile

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Posted: 15 March 2013 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 231 ]
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Dimension3D - 15 March 2013 04:18 AM

The simple way to get the Kids 4 clone morph into a working morph is to use my DSF Toolbox. This is a one click solution, too simple to require a tutorial.

It’s not that simple, I’m afraid. DSF Toolbox is a highly specialist tool - I admit I don’t even understand most of the terminology in it’s feature list. Generation X, however, is quite well documented plug-in. My guess is that most users would prefer having an ability to transfer K4 morphs using GenX, even if they had to buy an extension (I bought them all and was dismayed to find the set incomplete).

I have no problem to buy DSF Toolbox even for a single click use, but I’m not sure I will know how to do this. As far as I understand DSF TB is a stand-alone tool. Does that mean that it will convert the morph and place it in my library (which of them?) automatically? Will it then be available for use as a “dialable” actor? Will it work exactly as other templates in GenX collection do or would I need to do something else for GenX to see it and use as a base for morph transfer?

Will the joint adjustment and other magic happen in the same one click process, or will I need to deal with unfamiliar things like “channels” and suchlike?

Also it would be interesting to learn what people use DSF Toolbox for. I mean, I understand it’s for professional creators, but maybe some functions could be useful for laymen like me too? I was unable to find any such description. Sorry.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 09:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 232 ]
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GenX has everything to transfer morphs from K4 to Genesis, you can do this without any add-ons or special tricks. However, these morphs are useful only after you morphed Genesis into K4 shape. This is the one step that is not included in GenX, simply because it essentially has nothing to do with what GenX is doing.

With DSF Toolbox, you create this morph as follows:
1. You start DSF Toolbox and go to the “Clone2Morph” tab.
2. You select the clone morph to convert, in this case: “/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/CloneKids4.dsf”
3. You select the DSF file to create, which has to be under “/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/” to ensure Genesis will load it.
4. You click “Create DSF”.
That’s it, selecting input and output file and clicking one button. GenX doesn’t need the morph for conversion, but you need it to morph Genesis into K4 shape. The created morph is just a common morph for Genesis with joint adjustments, nothing special, just a dial you set to 1 and Genesis looks like K4 and still bends as it should.

More information (including a download of the PDF manual) for the DSF Toolbox can be found here:
http://d3d.sesseler.de/index.php?software=dazscript&product=dsftools

The “Channels” tab in DSF Toolbox is similar to the “Parameter” editor for dials in DS, it just operates directly on the DSF file. You can change channel parameters like the name, the range of the dial, the icon, and where it is shown in Genesis.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 10:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 233 ]
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I have to say thank you very much for explaining how to create the K4morph for Genesis,D3D cause I have your tool box but hadn’t been able to figure out how to do it ,read where others have done it but still didn’t understand ,now thanks to you I do ,again thank you so much.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 10:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 234 ]
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carrie58 - 15 March 2013 10:26 AM

I have to say thank you very much for explaining how to create the K4morph for Genesis,D3D cause I have your tool box but hadn’t been able to figure out how to do it ,read where others have done it but still didn’t understand ,now thanks to you I do ,again thank you so much.

Just an old caveat on using the K4 clone… don’t mix it with any genesis shapes. The mesh flows are different between clones and shapes, since the clones are to help with autofit, so you’ll get some weirdness in the body shapes such as in the abdomen area. If you need to make body shapes fatter or thinner, I would use GenX to copy the body shapes of K4 over as well, using the clone shape as a base.

Poses for K4 should work fine since the rigging is similar to K4, not genesis.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 11:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 235 ]
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Thanks for all the answers and advice! Clone is better than nothing. smile

One last question. If I use the method with a clone morph to transfer some character (using GenX), could I then use the transferred character morph in the same way I can use M4 or V4 character morphs I transferred to Genesis (including mixing with other shapes)?

Sorry for being such a noob. smile

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Posted: 15 March 2013 03:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 236 ]
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Yes. There is no difference between clone and character morphs in principle. The clone morphs are optimized for clothing transfer, that’s why their shape is closer to the original. The shape morphs are optimized for compatibility with Genesis, that’s why they may work better with poses or clothing sometimes. But this are small differences.

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Posted: 20 March 2013 02:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 237 ]
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So, will your Gen X and/or DSF Toolbox be part of the March Madness sale at some point during the remainder of this month?  Or do you know?

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Posted: 20 March 2013 05:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 238 ]
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Is there a way to decompress .dsf files?  Poser has a built in script that allows you to decompress files.

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Posted: 20 March 2013 10:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 239 ]
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opal42987: Who knows?

icprncss: Compressed DSF files use the same compression as compressed Poser files, i.e. Z-compression. So, just append .Z at the end, and many compression utilities (e.g. the free 7 ZIP) will decompress them. DSF Toolbox has a feature to compress/decompress DSF files, including a batch mode for several files or whole folders.

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Posted: 20 March 2013 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 240 ]
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So… are you saying you haven’t decided, or that the March Madness sale is outside of the 3rd party artists’ control?

Also, would the DSF Toolbox etc. allow someone to clone a 3rd party figure like say—Mayadoll or Apollo Maximus and turn them into Genesis morphs? (Actually, rereading your initial response to my earlier posts, I’m guessing not.  THough I really, really hope you’ll create GenX support for Apollo, Pippin, Mayadoll, and maybe Mavka in the near future as they all seem to be quite popular unlike Sadie.)

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