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Dear DAZ,

I just saw that you pulled Reby Sky for Genesis out of the vaults, “to Celebrate the NY Giant’s Super Bowl win”:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/reby-sky-for-genesis

So I had a look on the athletics list of the US team for the Olympic Games in London, and found that you have one Stephanie Brown Trafton in the team for Women’s Discus Throw!
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/brown-trafton-stephanie-1133911/

She finished… well… OK… she ended up 8th in the competition. I guess this won’t justify to pull out Stephanie 4 for Genesis out of the vaults, right? I thought that… but I just had to try…

How about the Olympic ideals? “To be part of”, etc. etc.? At least she was in the final rounds, there’s a cut for the top 8 of 12 after 3 attempts:
http://www.london2012.com/athletics/event/women-discus-throw/index.html?v=20120811-132359907

Is that nothing? Is it really only Medals that matter in these cruel and cold times? And - hey! - Stephanie Brown Trafton did win the GOLD MEDAL in Beijing 2008 for your team! According to this website “she became the first US athlete to win discus gold since Lillian Copeland in 1932”

I think this historic event wasn’t celebrated back then as it should have been, and it is a great time now to provide a tribute to this great American Athlete!

So please go and re-sell Stephanie 4 for Genesis, for a limited time, in honour of one of the best Women’s Discus Throwers of all times!

Thanks,
MartinC

Martin_C - 11 August 2012 06:55 AM

Dear DAZ,

I just saw that you pulled Reby Sky for Genesis out of the vaults, “to Celebrate the NY Giant’s Super Bowl win”:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/reby-sky-for-genesis

So I had a look on the athletics list of the US team for the Olympic Games in London, and found that you have one Stephanie Brown Trafton in the team for Women’s Discus Throw!
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/brown-trafton-stephanie-1133911/

She finished… well… OK… she ended up 8th in the competition. I guess this won’t justify to pull out Stephanie 4 for Genesis out of the vaults, right? I thought that… but I just had to try…

How about the Olympic ideals? “To be part of”, etc. etc.? At least she was in the final rounds, there’s a cut for the top 8 of 12 after 3 attempts:
http://www.london2012.com/athletics/event/women-discus-throw/index.html?v=20120811-132359907

Is that nothing? Is it really only Medals that matter in these cruel and cold times? And - hey! - Stephanie Brown Trafton did win the GOLD MEDAL in Beijing 2008 for your team! According to this website “she became the first US athlete to win discus gold since Lillian Copeland in 1932”

I think this historic event wasn’t celebrated back then as it should have been, and it is a great time now to provide a tribute to this great American Athlete!

So please go and re-sell Stephanie 4 for Genesis, for a limited time, in honour of one of the best Women’s Discus Throwers of all times!

Thanks,
MartinC

I’d buy it. I am thinking of getting the Gen4 version, and converting her with GenX, but that isn’t an option for everyone.

I have to say -  that is one of the best requests ever made on these forums

Daz, how could you turn this one down?!  I just got S4 to work with GenX yesterday…but I still wish you would release her for Genesis, I’ll still buy her.  I think it’s cruel to keep her in that vault all to yourselves. 

Kidding aside, S4 is a must have figure.  She brings shaping options that no other figure does….I don’t know how I ever rendered before she came along.  And not to take away from Reby, but S4 is a whole lot more useful - yet Reby gets un-vaulted on a regular basis….what gives?!

I agree.  Why the keep Steph 4 shape in the gloomy dank vault is just not right.  I know there is talk of a Steph 5 for Genesis and I hope a David 5 to join her but Steph 4 is an iconic shape so what gives?

I suspect it’s more than just talk of a Steph 5, there are some interesting numbers associated with Steph’s name in the list starting here http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/start?do=recent (credit goes to Skiriki for digging that up, not me)

RAMWolff - 11 August 2012 10:03 AM

I agree.  Why the keep Steph 4 shape in the gloomy dank vault is just not right.  I know there is talk of a Steph 5 for Genesis and I hope a David 5 to join her but Steph 4 is an iconic shape so what gives?

I was about to say myself, the leaked news about Stephanie 5 would be a great reason to unvault Stephanie 4 in itself.

I was actually fortunate enough to buy the V4/M4 Shapes for Genesis on release so I actually am one of the numbers who does have the S4 Iconic Shape. But even I think everyone should have a chance to have her. See, now what I would have done with S4 and RS was, make them expensive as they were in their original release so people would get them free with the V4/M4 and Gen 4 Iconic Characters respectively, but instead of vaulting them, I would have just expired the coupon and made them normal price after the sales end date. Some people may like Stephanie but not so much Victoria, just as how I’ve always preferred David and Hiro to Michael.

And speaking of David, yes a D5 would be VERY MUCH appreciated! Even to this day I still shake my head that MallenLane actually felt that M4 didn’t need the shaping support that V4 got with S4 Elite. I swear the second S5 comes out I’m going to petition thread the crap out of the DAZ team for him.

You start the petition and I’ll sign it!  David 5 all the way DAZ, don’t let your customer base down!

I’ve been waiting for S4 for Genesis basically since I started…I was hoping that she might show up again during this sale, too.  At this point I expect it to be re-released just before S5 comes out (the way a bunch of M4 stuff went on sale just before M5 was released). Of course, if S5 is really coming, I may just buy that instead!

I’ll add my voice to those disappointed by the early price hike for yesterday’s new items…maybe the sale is behaving as intended, but if so it wasn’t explained well. (Edit: oops, wrong thread for that second comment, but there it is, anyway)

...been using Steph4 almost exclusively since she was released. Nicer more"believable” proportions and with the NPMs I can easily turn her into a “Teen4” and even “PreTeen4”. Sad that David4 never was released (along with similar morph kits) as it would have allowed for the creation of a teen/preteen male character.

Have to wait on Steph5/David5 until I have a system capable of handling Studio4P.  With richer textures and use of Indirect lighting so common these days, 32 bit just doesn’t cut it anymore.

Kyoto Kid - 11 August 2012 04:03 PM

...been using Steph4 almost exclusively since she was released. Nicer more"believable” proportions and with the NPMs I can easily turn her into a “Teen4” and even “PreTeen4”. Sad that David4 never was released (along with similar morph kits) as it would have allowed for the creation of a teen/preteen male character.

Have to wait on Steph5/David5 until I have a system capable of handling Studio4P.  With richer textures and use of Indirect lighting so common these days, 32 bit just doesn’t cut it anymore.

Yeah, I honestly think that’s what DAZ was aiming for with S4 Elite in the first place, to kill the birds of petiteness and teenness with one stone.

I’ve been thinking, it’s definitely most highly unlikely at this point, but since DAZ still seems to acknowledge active support for Gen 4, proof being the V4 & M4 Pro Suites, and especially considering the Poser-preferred audience, perhaps there may still be some chance for a D4.

Then again, I know this is also just me being very wishful-minded with much assistance from my OCD demanding completion…

...I agree. with Steph4 Daz got right. She is truly amazing, which is why I am not all that thrilled by Genesis.  Steph4 is the only “elite” character I have in My runtime.  I rarely use the base V4 unless I want a taller or more buxom character.

My Leela as she pictured herself being the “Flutterby Queen” when she was a young girl.  With Vicky alone this would almost have been impossible to achieve without a lot of time and work and a few custom morphs.

Uhm… eh… well… while we are merrily talking about iconic shapes (that were available for a weekend and then gone with the wind) there is another item that exists and that I would really really want to buy, but sadly can’t - although for a different reason.

I madly love Radiant Jaguar Hair. I know it is pretty old and there are lots of newer wigs with more polygons, and more textures, and higher resolutions, and tons of extra morphs and whatever else, but I must confess that RJH simply looks better under Poser than anything else that I ever bought for my Runtime. It is the closest to absolute photo-realism that I manage to get out of my gear - take V4, some high-res skin on her, RJH on her head, render settings to maximum, and the result can hardly be distinguished from a real photo.

So far, so good. Now I started to play a bit with DS and Genesis (that’s why I urge to get S4 for it) and while I already stopped trying to get a similar degree of photorealism out of it, it would be nice to get my favourite hair.

And now the problem: RJH does exist for Genesis, but it’s only included in a bundle with other (entirely useless to me) items. This bundle was a Freebie for PC members some time ago, but different to S4 it is still on sale. For quite a bargain price:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/classics-bundle-for-genesis

And while I really really want this hair, I must confess that $120 (!!!) for virtually nothing but a single item that I already bought in the first place and now only need some upgrade morphs for Genesis is seriously beyond my financial possibilities. Even with 30% and (probably) another 50% in the next few days. Will be some $42 then. OK, I could pay that, but…

My question: is it possible that this price is just a mistake? Reason for my guess is this: In the last 2 months there were two monthly freebies for the PC:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/platinum-club-items/steam-truck-red-bizon
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/platinum-club-items/steam-aircraft-dragon

Both were sold for $100 and $0 for PC members, but when the month was over, they soon dropped to a reasonable $17 each.

Now we have a new freebie:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/motorbike-viking

It’s a $100 / $0 again, and I would guess that it will become $17 as well next month.

Now is there a chance that this $120 was just a similar “penalty price” back then that simply got stuck? And, the real question, would there be a chance to lift it? At least I hope it will not be thrown into the vaults now and glued to the S4 head instead…

Greetings,
I was curious about that, so I went back and figured out when/where I bought the Genesis Classics.  Yeah…I bought that at some absurd percentage off, like 65%, for $41.99 in the middle of March Madness.  Both hairs and Roxana were pretty much the only things I ended up using out of it.  Not my best purchase ever, but…well, March Madness really overwhelmed me roughly a month after I’d first started using DAZ.

I agree it’s a lot of money, in retrospect, but it’s still the only way to get that stuff.  If they kick it down to the 72% which some stuff has been coming down to, it’d probably be worth it at around $33.60.

— Morgan

I really don’t think that this price was set/kept intentionally - you won’t find any other bundle priced like that and that high. I’d say that the typical level should be something like $50.

So I’d guess that they either forgot to lower the price, or they wanted to delete the whole bundle after the Freebie period and forgot to take it off the shop.

Wanna see something weird? Just to prove the “$50” theory:

There is a nice skeleton bundle for $50:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/v4-and-m4-skeletons/

Another nice product is the Internal Organs bundle for $50:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/v4-m4-internal-organs-bundle/

Just a pity that it doesn’t include the Brain, which is $23 extra:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/daz-brain/

But - wait! - look at this:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/anatomy-starter-bundle

Another bundle for just $50, and it includes the full Skeleton Bundle (worth $50) and the full Internal Organs Bundle (worth $50) and the Brain (worth $23)... and even the Muscle Morphs (worth $20 each):
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/victoria-4-2-muscle-morphs-and-maps/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/michael-4-muscle-morphs-and-maps/

So - in a nutshell - “any bundle” is $50, and “any bundle of some other $50 bundles plus some extras” is $50 as well…

By the way… if you still look for some V3 bargains until DAZ midnight (still 60% off):

There is a very good skin texture for V3 for $10 (which means $3.97 with discount + PC):
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-skin-texture-1

And as a matter of fact, there is another one ($10, as above):
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-skin-texture-2

And another one, and another one, and another one ($10 each, as above)::
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-skin-texture-3
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-skin-texture-4
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-skin-texture-5

And if you like these things, there are some morphs for it as well ($10, as above):
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-morphs

And instead of buying these 6 items for $10 each, you might as well buy the whole lot for just…
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/international-beauties-maps-and-morphs

Right! 6 items (costing 6 x $10) for just (drum roll)... $10!

Gen X is a great tool for Genesis, being able to bring all those shapes and morphs in is really handy.

...yeah, I think I actually DLd the Classics for Genesis bundle back when it was offered to as a freebie to PC members. Have to check the DL archives, dig it up, and load it all.  Be interesting to see how the various items work with Jasmin and Amy as on my 32 bit system, I pretty much can only work with the Genesis toon characters (still using Studio 4.0.3.36, not going to mess with 4.5 until they get plugins working).