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And, Jaiman, yes back in the day. I guess I still come from the day when Video was wireless, ubiquitous and free, and Voice was tethered to the home by cable.
Hey, I just realized kids can’t ditch each other, anymore! “Siri, find Joe” “Joe is hiding around that corner.”
I remember 3 channels (and PBS), and catching distant UHF channels, on Spring nights, before we got our own local UHF (and after, because theirs had more money). Static was annoying, but not as irritating a digital-over-the-air, stuttering when the signal drops out, or satellite blipping out repeatedly during a storm, or cable just going black for as long as it wants to.
Wow, that’s incredible. I remember in elementary school, mid-60’s, when all those fun Mars stories had long been debunked, and then they brought the hammer down on fields of vegetation. I thought it was figured out from bigger telescopes… but they’d had giant observatories for…
I’ve still got the old ‘63 Worldbook set, boxed up, for the sake of collecting dust. (No hyperlinked text, you know).
Holy Cow! Same stuff with more detail!
Mariner 4, 1964… That’s earlier than I was thinking, but the Apollo program was going. Mars, though… Imagine what it took to calculate that trajectory on their rows of computers. It went past though, just a few pix, that was frustrating.
The attempts at planetary intercommunication, even if there were beings to receive our messages, are not as yet subjects for serious consideration. The ideas advanced for travel from planet to planet are simply wildly imaginary and take no proper account of perfectly well known facts and natural laws. Thus radio messages to Mars, much less reaching the planet by rocket ships or similar devices, are at present wholly beyond the limits of serious scientific study.”
ROTFLOL! And 7 years later, a tiny little satellite was broadcasting images back to Earth. One pixel at a time.
When he wrote it he wasn’t wrong, you know. Just expressing the extent of human experience at the time.
Yep, for the radio signals, even a laser spreads out, in space, fairly quickly over a good distance, but he was magnitudes of order off. A big enough receiving dish, focusing the weak signal…
And, yeah, the vegetation hypothesis was perfectly reasonable. Massive dust storm because of the thin atmosphere - no wonder that didn’t occur to them. Sending people is still a challenge, of course… but a lot more manageable one.
When we see a 1957 Chevy at an auto show, it seems old, but not that old. Maybe something we’d like to own and drive. Sometimes we don’t realize or appreciate how far we’ve come.
Good point. Some of that happened so fast, some so slowly. But its a whole different world.
I used to kinda marvel at how it had changed from the horse-drawn, telegraph, the-town-has-gas-streetlamps world my grandparents were born into. My parents as kids in family’s first Model T, the first telephones. But they were really impressed by it.
And now I know how they felt.
Maybe that’s why 3D graphics are fun, too. We get to live our “wildly imaginary” ideas, with the ability to deliberately, “take no proper account of perfectly well known facts and natural laws.”
That’s my thinking, it’s fun to unleash. From the preposterous to the strictly plausible, you can render things nobody’s ever seen before.
Or things only you’ve seen before…
I’d used to read a lot of sci fi, and run across things that I’d visualize, and wish I could set it down for eyes to see.
(Now my eyes protest when I read very long, and the glasses that they give me….). And I remember spare time… and sleep… oh right… I haven’t had enough of that…