Marieah - 26 September 2012 06:36 PM
The short answer is that this is not a unisex clothing set. It’s a man’s suit that female and other characters can use. If your girls are very picky about their buttons and buckes, I can only suggest that they wear something else.
SickleYield is on holiday right now. I don’t know whether she would be interested in making an additional feminizing morph pack add on.
I do know what you mean. But this product was never intended to be anything other than a man’s suit with lots of fbms.
I’m sorry, but you have misunderstood me. Very fuzzy at the moment with painkillers, so I’m sure it is my fault not being clear.
I know it is supposed to be a man’s suit.
I want it to use it as a man’s suit.
But it is wrong as a man’s suit in the jacket and belt. It has a woman’s jacket and belt as it is. I certainly wouldn’t render a male character wearing that jacket and belt. Especially any character who ought to know how to dress (like James Bond, for instance).
Men have the buttons on the right (from the wearer’s point of view). The shirt has the buttons on the right, so is correct. The vest has the buttons on the right, so is correct. The pants don’t appear to have a button but close left over right so are correct.
But in every promo picture, the jacket has the buttons on the left (the wearer’s left that is), which is wrong. A jacket made for women may have buttons on the left as this set has, but a man’s suit will have the buttons on the right. Just look at the first promo picture for the bundle, with the man in the grey suit carrying the briefcase. The button’s are on the left side of the jacket (his left). That is wrong for a man’s jacket - a man’s jacket has them on the right.
So i want to know if there is a way to move the buttons to the right side of the jacket (the wearer’s right) when the jacket is open because that is how men have it, not on the left as all your promos do. As long as the button mesh isn’t actually welded to the jacket underneath it’s not to big a problem.
Even more, the belt is wrong for a man. In your promos you show the buckle on the right and the tongue coming from the left and then going through the buckle and going off to the right. Men do not have this. Men wear belt’s with the buckle on the left, and the tongue coming from the right, going through the buckle and ending to the left. I know a lot of women haven’t been taught this and have never noticed (my mother, who married my father in 1948, lived with him until his death in 1997, then moved to live with me, still hasn’t learned this and on occasions when she tries to be helpful and put the belt into some trousers I am going to wear invariably still gets this wrong), but it is an important distinction.
Granted these are distinctions and traditions I learned growing up in the UK in the 60s and 70s in a Cathedral Close having to hobnob with bishops, lords, ex-primeministers, retired gemerals, admirals and whatnot. so may be thought ot be out of date. but e.g. if you look in the US Army AR 670-1 Regulations for wear of Army Uniforms, Chapter 27-2 (Google will find the 2012 edition), you will see that the US Army mandate that the trouser belt worn with field and utlitiy uniforms will be worn with buckle to the left, tongue going through from the right to the left by all personel, male and female, while the fancier one for Service Greens Class A and B and dress uniforms is to be worn buckle on the left, tongue going through from right to left by men, and buckle to the right, tongue going through left to right by women. So as an organistion both modern and traditional, they actually still specify the traditional different male and female modes of wearing a belt for dress uniforms, but have gone unisex for field and combat uniforms standardising on the male way for all for the fighting and working uniforms, not the female.
in any case, the thing is this - your sets have two mistakes as a male suit - the jacket buttons are on the wrong side for men, and the belt is the wrong way round. I love the sets otherwise ... but I just can’t render a man wearing a woman’s jacket, or a man with his trouser belt the way round only women put them. I know Sickleyield is female ... which is probably why she made the belt in this set and in the Dead World pants at Renderosity the woman’s way, likely never having been told or noticed that men thread the belt into the loops from the other side - buckle on the left, not the right. But it is a significant mistake for any of us men who are traditional ... or even want to use the trousers in a render of a soldier, sailor, marine or airmen and want to have the belt the right way round as mandated by military regulations.
So - can the belt be reversed side for side? I wonder if it would work with a -100% xscale on it?
