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Posted: 29 July 2012 01:13 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Which is the better, more diverse dragon?

And do ya’ll know of any free dragons? Does the SubDragLE have pose capability?

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Posted: 29 July 2012 02:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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AidanaWillowRaven - 29 July 2012 01:13 PM

Which is the better, more diverse dragon?

And do ya’ll know of any free dragons? Does the SubDragLE have pose capability?


Better?  Depends on what you want to do.  The SubDragonLE came with your DS4 install so you already have it.  It poses just fine, it just doesn’t have the full range of morphs available to the non-LE version.


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Posted: 29 July 2012 03:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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There was a morph set specifically targeted at the SubDragonLE released not long ago over at Renderosity, FWIW.  The creator also released a couple texture sets, which also work with the full SubDragon (I presume LE and full share the same UV map and the LE is just missing the extra morphs of the full version and comes with only the low-rez “sample” skin).  There are also some extra texture sets and whatnot for the SubDragon sold here in the DAZ store.

It also seems to me that you see more eastern looking dragons based on the Millennium Dragon 2, while the SubDragon is more of your western style hulking dragon.  Not sure if you can get the full SubDragon to morph into an eastern style dragon on its own.  This is just based on my cursory look of the store a while back, though, so may be completely wrong.

As DAZ products, they will hit 50% off (or more… e.g., FastGrab) again at some point.  I got the full SubDragon when it was on deep discount, but I didn’t have an immediate need for it and was able to make due with the LE version until then.  I had no trouble with posing the SubDragonLE and I believe it has all the same bones as the full version.  It’s a fully articulated/jointed figure, just like the humanoid figures like V4 and Genesis and uses PowerLoader to select load options at instantiation (like the Gen4 figures).

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Posted: 29 July 2012 04:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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cwichura - 29 July 2012 03:31 PM

There was a morph set specifically targeted at the SubDragonLE released not long ago over at Renderosity, FWIW.  The creator also released a couple texture sets, which also work with the full SubDragon (I presume LE and full share the same UV map and the LE is just missing the extra morphs of the full version and comes with only the low-rez “sample” skin).  There are also some extra texture sets and whatnot for the SubDragon sold here in the DAZ store.

It also seems to me that you see more eastern looking dragons based on the Millennium Dragon 2, while the SubDragon is more of your western style hulking dragon.  Not sure if you can get the full SubDragon to morph into an eastern style dragon on its own.  This is just based on my cursory look of the store a while back, though, so may be completely wrong.

As DAZ products, they will hit 50% off (or more… e.g., FastGrab) again at some point.  I got the full SubDragon when it was on deep discount, but I didn’t have an immediate need for it and was able to make due with the LE version until then.  I had no trouble with posing the SubDragonLE and I believe it has all the same bones as the full version.  It’s a fully articulated/jointed figure, just like the humanoid figures like V4 and Genesis and uses PowerLoader to select load options at instantiation (like the Gen4 figures).


The morph set over at Rendo for the SubDragonLE is currently unavailable.  It has been pulled from the store while the product is under evaluation.


I have all of the Dragons that are in the DAZ store, and find that each has its own use.  The SubDragon is an excellent figure, but is a killer at render time (and can be a bit heavy on the viewport as well), so keep that in mind.  The Eastern Dragon (long dragon) comes with the bundles for the MilDragon2.  The Zygote Dragon is an “older style” dragon.  Then there is the Storybook Dragons, which are more child friendly.  There are also the hatchlings and dragonlings for creating “not so grown up” dragons.  There are addons and morphs for most of them available both here at DAZ and at ShareCG.


EDIT:  I forgot to add Alexa’s favorite: the Fantasy Dragonfly.  Also, I forgot the Sea Dragon, which doesn’t really ascribe to most folks’ ideas of a “dragon” but more of a sea monster.


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Posted: 29 July 2012 06:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I personally like Subdragon myself—it is more D&Dey; than Millennium Dragon, but MilDrag has some parts Subdragon doesn’t (such as facial horns you can swap in and out and no, I haven’t tried yet if I can plug them into Subdragon). Plus, it bends reaaaaally lovely.

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Posted: 30 July 2012 02:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Thanks, guys.


I already have MilDrag2 and PR Drag and StoryDrag. I have the SubDragLE, but not the full version, so I was wondering if it was worth the $100 to buy the full set. I’m a set junkie ... lol.

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Posted: 30 July 2012 04:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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My favourite for shape is the Adult Hatchling, though it’s an older figure and I don’t know how well it would stand up to modern rendering http://www.daz3d.com/shop/adult-hatchling-dragon/ (I haven’t used any dragon for ages)

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Posted: 30 July 2012 08:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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AidanaWillowRaven - 30 July 2012 02:13 AM

Thanks, guys.


I already have MilDrag2 and PR Drag and StoryDrag. I have the SubDragLE, but not the full version, so I was wondering if it was worth the $100 to buy the full set. I’m a set junkie ... lol.

If you can wait, then I’d wait for a sale, but I really dig Subdragon. It has absolutely gorgeous bends, and fine texturing, plus other details.


Some dragon pictures at my DA account.

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Posted: 30 July 2012 09:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Looking at some of the textures Hellfish Studios has at rendo are encouraging for the subdrag, too.

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Posted: 30 July 2012 01:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Wouldn’t be able to choose between the dragons.  lol   Luv ‘em all.
I really like the SubDragon hair . . . and head morphs.
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-hair/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-expansion/
And the add’l textures are pretty nice.
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-textures-2/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-textures/


Lots of stuff for Mil2 Dragon,too.
And, apparently, you can dress them both.  LOL


http://www.daz3d.com/shop/millennium-subdragon-armor/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/flying-fortress-for-millennium-dragon-2/

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Posted: 30 July 2012 01:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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You can never have enough dragons!


I definitely like both.  SubDragon renders better (IMO) but the venerable MD2 is still quite the workhorse and you can do some interesting things with him.

Here’s my favorite MilSubDragon render (of mine): http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/The-Dragon-Battle-205847981
My favorite MD2 render (of mine): http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/Flame-in-the-Night-213073955

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Posted: 30 July 2012 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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adamr001 - 30 July 2012 01:20 PM

You can never have enough dragons!


I definitely like both.  SubDragon renders better (IMO) but the venerable MD2 is still quite the workhorse and you can do some interesting things with him.

Here’s my favorite MilSubDragon render (of mine): http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/The-Dragon-Battle-205847981
My favorite MD2 render (of mine): http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/Flame-in-the-Night-213073955


Those fire wings are awesome!


And the green one is amazing, too ... lol. Ya’ll are not making my choices easy ... lol. Looks like I’ll need to buy SubDragon to go with MD2.

 

 

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Cyn Art - 30 July 2012 01:05 PM

Wouldn’t be able to choose between the dragons.  lol   Luv ‘em all.
I really like the SubDragon hair . . . and head morphs.
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-hair/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-expansion/
And the add’l textures are pretty nice.
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-textures-2/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/subdragon-textures/


Lots of stuff for Mil2 Dragon,too.
And, apparently, you can dress them both.  LOL


http://www.daz3d.com/shop/millennium-subdragon-armor/
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/flying-fortress-for-millennium-dragon-2/


Yep ... I see me spending some money ... lol.

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Posted: 30 July 2012 01:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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AidanaWillowRaven - 30 July 2012 01:33 PM

Those fire wings are awesome!

That’s this set http://www.daz3d.com/shop/fire-dragon/ turned into actual light sources in DS.  They’re providing all the light in the scene.

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adamr001 - 30 July 2012 01:41 PM
AidanaWillowRaven - 30 July 2012 01:33 PM

Those fire wings are awesome!

That’s this set http://www.daz3d.com/shop/fire-dragon/ turned into actual light sources in DS.  They’re providing all the light in the scene.


Cool! Do they normally provide light or did u do something to turn them into lights?

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Posted: 30 July 2012 02:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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UberAreaLight effect, IIRC? But it is really neato… and depending on your settings, may be CPU-intensive.

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