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So, um—before the previous forum closed and got archived, there was talk about what will be the legal status of geo-grafted bits, since they do borrow from Genesis in order to glue in place.

So… has that talk with the legal dept gotten anywhere? I have a horrible hankering of doing something nice and geo-grafted and freebie, but uncertainty is kind of giving me a problem on that front.

You know there’s one type of response that the topic heading just screams for, don’t you?

I will see if this is still being looked into.

*sniggle*

Please, if you could be so nice. (I was thinking about a cute short faun tail that can wag, nothing more, truthfully.)

Richard Haseltine - 29 July 2012 12:31 PM

You know there’s one type of response that the topic heading just screams for, don’t you?

I will see if this is still being looked into.

ROFL!!! Exactly where I went.

Yoooohoooo! Any word on this one?

I believe the word is…

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

Or maybe ‘soon’?

The only word I’ve received so far is that ALL geo-grafted items need to be cleared through the company FIRST. Whether free or sale.

So, idea ... um, pack it up and send it over and we’ll all wait and see what happens.

Patience55 - 25 September 2012 03:35 PM

The only word I’ve received so far is that ALL geo-grafted items need to be cleared through the company FIRST. Whether free or sale.

So, idea ... um, pack it up and send it over and we’ll all wait and see what happens.

Which for most freebies looks to be more of a hassle than it’s worth…

Sorry, the whole idea that using a built in function of the program/mesh needs approval, on a case by case basis, before it can actually be used is a bit of a head scratcher. 

There are ways around the whole “but it’s our IP”...

Lock the function in ‘normal’ mode and sell a ‘developer’ license that unlocks it and allows a limited amount of vertices to be altered without prior approval (something like no more that 1/2 of 1%), over that amount, then approval is needed. Then sell that license for somewhere between $15 and $30 (cheaper is better, in this case…as most freebie makers aren’t going to want to drop a big wad of cash on this).

Or a simple change in the EULA stating that items that use the built geo-grafting features to ADD something to the base mesh are allowed (items that replace some would require approval).  Most items that I can think of, like horns, tail or something like that, would only affect a few vertices.

Or just about anything…other than ‘send it to us and we’ll see…’

So, if someone want create a Geo-Grated bits, and redistribuite, must be first approved from DAZ?
In this case, if someone create a Geo-Grafted character, and want sell in a store that isn’t DAZ Store, must be first have approvation from DAZ, and after can sell it?

At the moment, yes.

Also for free items?

Yes.

And just for curiosity, where a content creator must ask for approval, at who must send our files for approvation?

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) as I recall.

pa @ daz3d.com (Remove Spaces)

This has always been a head scratcher to me too…

I understand the convention of approval for using “part” of the Genesis mesh for the Geo-Grafting endeavors of both commercial, and freebies for distribution.

What I don’t understand is any kind of stranglehold on content creators that is stifling potential releases, and furthering the use of, and popularity of Geo-Grafting.

It is not necessary to use any “part” of Genesis for Geo-Grafting.  The only caveat is the newly created mesh (from scratch; from one single vertex even) must be coincident located to be used for the grafting (easily done).

I have a simple sci-fi freebie in mind that I want to eventually create, but if I am going to have to go through some B.S. song-n-dance to release, or suffer some sort of cease and desist (like WERTS; and yes, I am well aware of the true violation.  I side with DAZ on that one), and have my work pulled because DAZ did not authorize it.

I can create my work from scratch, from a single plane, or hell, from a single vertex, and create from scratch that first plane.

Skiriki:

You can create yours just the same, and would not be in violation of using any DAZ mesh.  If you don’t know how to bring your mesh within coincident location, I would be happy to teach you.  I say go forth, and create your vision.