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Lip sync plugins for Studio 4?
Posted: 25 May 2012 07:17 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Hi, Trying video tutorials, I want to use “lip sync” plug in .

But “Lip sync” does not exist in daz4 Pro 64bit, does it?
For use “lip sync” ,do I download daz4 for 34bit ?
and, Is there “lip sinc” in daz studio 4.5 CR? (If there is lip sinc, I try to install 4.5 rc another drive volume)

Now I serch download link for daz4 32bit , But I can not find it.

If “mimic light” has same function,  I would buy it. but I dont know about “mimic light”.

May I ask good way to use Lip sync, advices or alternate product ?

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(Thanks T Jaiman!)
“Lip sync”  exist in daz4 Pro 32bit, only.
I downloaded it . (now we can download “daz 4 for 64bit” and “for 32bit”  in one zip package”  I overlookde it)

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Posted: 30 May 2012 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The 4.5 RC will not have any 3rd-party plugins. The final version should get them quickly, because the plug-in writers will (should) finally have the final SDK they need. Since some version of Mimic is in Studio 4 (at least in 32-bit), then it should be in 4.5 RC.


Even installing RC 4.5 to a different place might cause errors, for Windows users, because of what it might write to the registry. (Someone had good luck in a Mac, though). It’s better to choose either the fun-and-new, or the old-and-works-pretty-well. Or to wait for the new to be finished.


I don’t know, right now, about Mimic 64-bit. Not sure where to download Studio 4 32-bit. I will try to look later, if nobody else answers before then. (Unless I forget).


Do you have this folder (on Windows) in your copy of D|S4 (Studio 4)?
C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\dzmimic


I would change the title of your message to “Lip sync plugins for Studio 4?”. If you use the edit button, for your first post, you can change the title.

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Posted: 30 May 2012 08:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Thank so much T Jaiman.LOL

I could download 4.0.3 for 32bit, and used it only two days.
now I use 4.5RC only. (I uninstalled different ver of daz4)

( Because I can not wait, so I downloaded 4.5 RC (for win) with 4.0.3.
As you say It caused error, and I could not recover well downer)
I like 4.5 . It do not cause problemes at present.

Then I think to buy Mimic for 4.5 RC,
but shold I wait until 4.5 become normal suitable version?

I do not konow Mimic (plug in with 4.5RC) has same function with “Lip Sync” in ds4 (32bit).
If I have .wav file (recorded speech ), I can set lip animation on figures by Mimic, can I?
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/software/mimic/mimic-live

Though I do not need real-time Live lip-sync function.
So IF “mimic lite” has lip-sync function, I want to buy this.
(because It cost only 1.99:red:)
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/software/mimic/mimic-lite
But I do not know the compatibility .
If Other vender plug in can not be used in ds 4.5 now, Mimic-lite can not be used.

So if someguys use mimic plug-in now,tell me how is it.
Now I feel I have no choice about lip-sync animation.

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Posted: 31 May 2012 08:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I am interested in doing lip sync, some day.
I spent some time looking. But there seems to be a lot of confusion and error about the different types of Mimic.
I can’t promise everything is accurate.


I’ve edited this dozens of times, as I learn a new thing and find out another thing was wrong. rolleyes
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kitakoredazu - 30 May 2012 08:28 PM

I do not konow Mimic (plug in with 4.5RC) has same function with “Lip Sync” in ds4 (32bit).

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It seems that “Lipsync” is a piece of Mimic software, from the same company.
About the same as Mimic Lite, as far as I can tell.
This store shows less information than it used to. I hope they fix that.


Do you find Mimic Live in Help->About Installed Plugins ?

If you do, is there a green symbol, like the others have? Or is it white?

If it’s white, you would buy it in the store, to get a serial number to activate it.


An earlier version of that ““Mimic Live” installer also came with 64-bit of the first Beta of Studio 4, about a year ago.
I haven’t found any mention of that.


I don’t know if Lipsync is in the 64-bit RC 4.5.
If it is, you’ll find it in Studio this way: Windows->Tabs->lipsync.
Please tell me what you find out.


You can install both 32-bit and 64-bit Daz together, as long as they are the same version.

But two versions together is a problem.

Lipsync is part of Studio 4, so it will be updated in the 32-bit of RC 4.5.


I got the 64-bit and 32-bit in my download from Daz. Is that where you got yours?
If you didn’t get the 32-bit, you can reset Studio in “Itemized Order History. But the way that is set up now, it’ll take a long time to find it.
(I predict that they will fix that, someday).
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Though I do not need real-time Live lip-sync function.

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It seems that “Lipsync” does not do the “live” that the store version of “Mimic Live” does.


And, the Mimic Live, in the store does not take wav files.

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So IF “mimic lite” has lip-sync function, I want to buy this.
(because It cost only 1.99:red:)
But I do not know the compatibility .
If Other vender plug in can not be used in ds 4.5 now, Mimic-lite can not be used.

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I think someone said that Mimic Lite will overwrite Lipsync’s files. I don’t know if it’s better.

I expect it will be 32-bit, only.
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/artzone/azproduct/3405
That says it is a “standalone”, so it won’t depend on the Studio version.
But 32-bit might not work well with 64-bit Studio, I don’t know.
It looks like it does the same things as Lipsync.


Mimic Pro hasn’t been updated in a long time.
Pro isn’t a Studio plugin. It is a “standalone” so it can run by itself.
So it should work in any version. But it might not work well with 64-bit Studio).


Everyone says that Lipsync is 32-bit, and missing from Studio 64-bit, even recently.

Someone said the store’s “Mimic Lite” will overwrite Lipsync…


This thread talks about the different kinds of Mimic.
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=183159&sid=2fc85d37a906d7fec3ad278eb328458


There was a whole Daz forum for Mimic, at the old site.
http://66.180.192.247/viewforum.php?f=28&topicdays=0&start=0


This \docu\ exists. Not much in it, though.
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/artzone/pub/software/lipsync/start


This is how it works on my 32-bit

Windows->Tabs->lipsync.


Ignore the “Launch Mimic Pro” button, unless you buy and install Mimic Pro.
(Sounds like Pro is not a plugin, so it doesn’t care what version of Studio that you have).


It has sample files which you can load. Then you analyze. Open the timeline. Hit play.

You can add your own files, in WAV format. After you hit “analyze”, then find the text file that Mimic creates.
That text can be corrected, if Mimic/Lipsync mistakes one word for another.


By the way:
Animate2 does work with Studio 64-bit.
I think the plugin might be included (but needs a serial #)
If you see it in your plugins, then it’s updated for RC 4.5.
(You’d buy at the store to get the serial number for the plugin).
I’m positive it will be updated for the final 4.5, if it needs it.
I will try to do more research.
Like I said, the store pages used to show more information.


I will have to stop for today. I used too much time on researching Mimic..
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Posted: 01 June 2012 02:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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So thanks T Jaiman:down:
I think you take so much time to reply I m so sorry,,
TT)

I should keep ds4 for 32 bit, and test them.
there were many files to set face animation.

I am so scatterbrain that I uninstalled it and jumped ds 4.5rc.
But It is not good for me,  made more ploblems.

I can not answer well, but I answer which I can.

Do you find Mimic Live in Help->About Installed Plugins ?
If you do, is there a green symbol, like the others have? Or is it white?
If it’s white, you would buy it in the store, to get a serial number to activate it

Yes I can find “Mimic Live plug in” in ds4.5 pro.
I understand I need to buy for use them. they are white ,
(some plugins were white in ds4 pro and I will get serial number if I buy them)
I want animate 2 , decimator(for unity )  so, I am thinking to buy .

I don’t know if Lipsync is in the 64-bit RC 4.5.
If it is, you’ll find it in Studio this way: Windows->Tabs->lipsync.
Please tell me what you find out.

No. I downloaded ds4 pro 32bit, ds4 64bit, and 4.5RC, 64bit
“lip sync” plug in are only in ds4 pro 32bit.
  there is not “lip sync” in ds4.5 rc (64bit)

So I thought (as you know)  charged “Mimic live” may stuck in ds4.5 rc (64bit)

Lipsync is part of Studio 4, so it will be updated in the 32-bit of RC 4.5.

Oh,, I do not try ds 4.5 rc for 32 bit yet,
But I have no will to try it now,,, (I am little bit tired to test several version now)
and I feel fear about “RC” now.  I want to be “suitable”.

Though I do not need real-time Live lip-sync function.

It seems that “Lipsync” does not do the “live” that the store version of “Mimic Live” does.
And, the Mimic Live, in the store does not take wav files.

Yes! I want to say that. so I hesitate to buy mimic live.
then I think about mimic pro. but, I do not have clear information,
how they use in ds4( ds4.5rc).

So I should wait. (I do not care “it is free or not”. if I need it , I will buy it.
of course, I love free!!  and I think it is so expensive, I just do not buy it. )

Now I am amazing which version is better for me.
I reinstall “sets of ds4 32bit and ds464bit ” or
I stick ds4.5 RC 64.

This thread talks about the different kinds of Mimic.
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=183159&sid=2fc85d37a906d7fec3ad278eb328458

yes I found it, and I want to know something has changed or not now.
(and it was little bit difficut for me. because I had no information about them.
Now I read it, I can understand them for your kind advices)

I need more information about mimic pro.
If it does not have so much usage for me,  I just use “lip sync” in “ds4, 32bit”
(I want not try ds4.5 RC 32 bit now , if it has “lip sync” still )

about Animate2

Yes!! now I hope to buy animate2 (I hope it move well In 4.5rc without problems)
I thought about animate2(to buy) one month ago,  then I had interest face animation,
and I found “lip sync” in video tutorial. but I did not have 32bit ver
(I had no interesting at 32 bit before.I did not think “cool lip sync” is only in 32 bit” ,
and I did not know “lip sync”)

“animate 2” does not make “face motion” by “sound file” does it?
I will buy it after “daz shop” calm down. Now I do not feel buy anything.
though I am PM still now,,

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Posted: 01 June 2012 03:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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kitakoredazu - 01 June 2012 02:05 AM

So thanks T Jaiman downer
I think you take so much time to reply I m so sorry,,
TT)

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Nothing to be sorry about. I wanted to know too. Then it became a puzzle which I had to solve.

That and I write too much. grin


And all the things I had to correct.

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Now I am amazing which version is better for me.
I reinstall “sets of ds4 32bit and ds464bit ” or
I stick ds4.5 RC 64.

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I don’t know what you should choose, when you have time.
Someone mentioned something about there being something tricky about going back to an earlier version.
But I have no idea what they meant.


You should see if the bugs will actually affect you:
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/64/

You can get the 32-bit by resetting your DAZ Studio 4.5 Release Candidate in your Itemized Order History in “My Account”.

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about Animate2

Yes!! now I hope to buy animate2 (I hope it move well In 4.5rc without problems)
I thought about animate2(to buy) one month ago,  then I had interest face animation,
and I found “lip sync” in video tutorial. but I did not have 32bit ver
(I had no interesting at 32 bit before.I did not think “cool lip sync” is only in 32 bit” ,
and I did not know “lip sync”)

“animate 2” does not make “face motion” by “sound file” does it?
I will buy it after “daz shop” calm down. Now I do not feel buy anything.
though I am PM still now,,

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Animate2 should work fine. However, 4.5 RC has bugs, and I don’t know if Animate2 is affected in any way.
No, it doesn’t do any lip sync at all, as far as I know.


It may take a while to find out if Mimic Live is now improved.
It might have possibly been improved to take wav files, and be a substitute for lipsync.


And since they upgraded Mimic Live as a 64-bit plugin, they might upgrade the other Mimic software to 64-bit.


Whatever you buy, you should wait for a sale. I think there would have normally been one this month, if the site was working right.
There are many sales each year. And it’s not unusual to buy things at 50% off or less (or much less).


This is off topic, now, but…


Another sale should be coming in July, then October, November, December, March. And maybe more.
If you join the PC Club you can really save some money (if you buy enough things, to make it worthwhile).
(And the October sale is mainly for some amazing prices, on lots of popular things, for PC Members).
But, obviously, the PC club is something you should wait a month, or more, on.


If you put something in your wishlist, they will email you when it’s on sale.
(Also true of any other store, like this, that I can think of).


Look on the item’s page - If the “Vendor” is Daz, it will go on sale often.


If the vendor is somebody else, then they can have a sale any days of the year (like on their birthday).
Plus there are months when almost all of them go on sale.
So it helps to wishlist their stuff. (We call them “PA’s”, or “Private Artists”)

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