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Posted: 21 July 2012 11:29 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Several times, more than I can count, I would get the weekly freebie, or a cheep intro, or use a GC or a Voucher or buy a FastGrab item; purchasing things I was not in a hurry to download and install; I would not get around to downloading the product and the download would expire.

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I only want to see the things I never downloaded and reset them so I can get them; how do I do that?

I would say I’ve easily purchased around or over 500 things here and I know how to reset a download, but, I need an easy way to find the many things I never downloaded so I can reset them and get them in my Runtime.

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Posted: 21 July 2012 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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There currently isn’t an easy way. You just have to remember the name of the product and find it then reset it.

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Posted: 21 July 2012 04:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Did you by any chance keep your reciepts? If so then at least for the freebies just find the ones with no charge ......I tend to keep the freebie reciepts in a seperate folder from the regular purchases.

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Posted: 22 July 2012 11:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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...this is just one of my complaints with the new site as your itemised order history no longer sorts by date but by name and can only display a maximum of 50 items per page.  On the old site everything was listed on a single page and the default sort was by most recent purchase so if you knew roughly when you placed the order it was relatively easy to find it.  If not, you could always use your browser’s “search current page” function using a keyword from the product name.


This new site software has taken several steps backwards with respect to user friendliness.

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Posted: 21 March 2013 09:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Kyoto Kid - 22 July 2012 11:01 PM

...this is just one of my complaints with the new site as your itemised order history no longer sorts by date but by name and can only display a maximum of 50 items per page.  On the old site everything was listed on a single page and the default sort was by most recent purchase so if you knew roughly when you placed the order it was relatively easy to find it.  If not, you could always use your browser’s “search current page” function using a keyword from the product name.


This new site software has taken several steps backwards with respect to user friendliness.

Hear-hear!  I have stated this many times and have made numerous requests for DAZ to fix this.  I also had hoped the new DIM (Daz Install Manager) might address this very real need.  However, so far, it too is a disappointment.  Not only is there not an option to view all “un-downloaded / non-downloaded” products, but the information it displays about when a product was downloaded is nonesense ... the dates are incorrect, and seem arbitrary.

I too have dozens, if not hundreds of files I have never downloaded, and now with the site change it is beyond a PITA.  Daz keeps promising to fix the site in this regard, but it has been many months now and still nothing.  My fear is they put all their chips on the DIM, but it is not a valid solution either, sadly.

I don’t understand why it is so hard to introduce sort by date functionality, or at the very least allow for (200, or even unlimited liked before) items per page.  ???

 

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Posted: 21 March 2013 11:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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timoteo - 21 March 2013 09:31 AM
Kyoto Kid - 22 July 2012 11:01 PM

...this is just one of my complaints with the new site as your itemised order history no longer sorts by date but by name and can only display a maximum of 50 items per page.  On the old site everything was listed on a single page and the default sort was by most recent purchase so if you knew roughly when you placed the order it was relatively easy to find it.  If not, you could always use your browser’s “search current page” function using a keyword from the product name.


This new site software has taken several steps backwards with respect to user friendliness.

Hear-hear!  I have stated this many times and have made numerous requests for DAZ to fix this.  I also had hoped the new DIM (Daz Install Manager) might address this very real need.  However, so far, it too is a disappointment.  Not only is there not an option to view all “un-downloaded / non-downloaded” products, but the information it displays about when a product was downloaded is nonesense ... the dates are incorrect, and seem arbitrary.

I too have dozens, if not hundreds of files I have never downloaded, and now with the site change it is beyond a PITA.  Daz keeps promising to fix the site in this regard, but it has been many months now and still nothing.  My fear is they put all their chips on the DIM, but it is not a valid solution either, sadly.

I don’t understand why it is so hard to introduce sort by date functionality, or at the very least allow for (200, or even unlimited liked before) items per page.  ???

 

I’m of the opinion that DAZ has no intention of mucking with that level of programming.  They complained of being bitten by “spaghetti code” in their old highly customized site so why would they repeat that “mistake” and hire someone competent enough and give them a mandate to essentially redesign an off-the-shelf product?  And taking into consideration that we’ve seen other indications that the bottom line now rules the hearts and minds of management at DAZ I’m not going to hold my breath.

The old DAZ that we loved and admired has been eaten by corporate goblins.

Of course they’ll be quick to point out that they’ve given us the “Download Manager”.  But I’m not yet convinced that it is stable enough or complete enough for me to work with yet.  Although I do keep watching the issues about it brought up in this forum.

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Posted: 21 March 2013 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The best way that I have found is to search my computer for the main keyword of the product. If I find the keyword then I search further to verify that I do have the download. If I cannot find the keyword then I assume that I have not downloaded the item and I get it again, even if I already have it.

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Posted: 21 March 2013 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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The store has no way of knowing whether you’ve downloaded or not. The number of downloads left resets after a period of time anyway.

But you should know what you’ve got and there are a couple of programs to help with that.

Download taozen’s DAZ History Manager: http://taosoft.dk/software/dazhm/

This program will download your item history list. You still cannot sort it but….
your item history is now in .csv format and can be read and formatted easily by any spreadsheet program.
I use the free Open Office for this.

Just point your spreadsheet at the .csv in the data folder and up comes a formatted spreadsheet with your item history in it. You can sort on any column if you wish.

the other program is DAZ’s new Install Manager.

You don’t have to actually DO anything with it if you don’t want. You can use it to get a list of the content you have (minus Bryce stuff, plugins, 2D stuff etc which taozen’s program will show you) and sort it in various ways. It will export to .csv as well but I find it easier to do with taozen’s utility.

Since you only have about 500 items it shouldn’t take too long to find things you don’t recognize as having installed and to download them with the DIM. If you have a decent connection it won’t even hurt to download everything then back up the files for safekeeping.

Besides what I’ve mentioned that your item history shows (via taozen) that DIM doesn’t, DIM shows stuff that Item History does not: namely the sub items purchased in bundles. Item history (taozen) shows you purchased a bundle. DIM shows you purchased all the items IN the bundle.

Also there may be still a few files missing from DIM that they’re still working on though most of them do show up.

Anyway, with these tools you should be able to figure things out and get the files you may be missing.

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Posted: 21 March 2013 01:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Kyoto Kid - 22 July 2012 11:01 PM

...this is just one of my complaints with the new site as your itemised order history no longer sorts by date but by name and can only display a maximum of 50 items per page.  On the old site everything was listed on a single page and the default sort was by most recent purchase so if you knew roughly when you placed the order it was relatively easy to find it.  If not, you could always use your browser’s “search current page” function using a keyword from the product name.


This new site software has taken several steps backwards with respect to user friendliness.

Hear-hear!  I have stated this many times and have made numerous requests for DAZ to fix this.  I also had hoped the new DIM (Daz Install Manager) might address this very real need.  However, so far, it too is a disappointment.  Not only is there not an option to view all “un-downloaded / non-downloaded” products, but the information it displays about when a product was downloaded is nonesense ... the dates are incorrect, and seem arbitrary.

I too have dozens, if not hundreds of files I have never downloaded, and now with the site change it is beyond a PITA.  Daz keeps promising to fix the site in this regard, but it has been many months now and still nothing.  My fear is they put all their chips on the DIM, but it is not a valid solution either, sadly.

I don’t understand why it is so hard to introduce sort by date functionality, or at the very least allow for (200, or even unlimited liked before) items per page.  ???

 

And I’ll throw in a plug for DIM, even if you don’t want to use it for anything else.

Download it, install it, and connect to DAZ with it.

When it finishes populating the available to download tab, click on the ‘products’ checkbox; this will select everything.

Right-click; at the bottom of the resulting menu is ‘export to csv’. Click on that, and select the directory you want it saved in and the fields you want to export.

You now have a complete list minus plugins, Bryce and Carrara content, and executables, of everything you’ve purchased. And yes, the download date is bogus but the order number and date are correct.

As near as I can tell from my order history - I think DAZ has finished the conversion to the new format downloads and unwrapped all the bundles.

 

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Posted: 21 March 2013 01:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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LeatherGryphon - 21 March 2013 11:11 AM

The old DAZ that we loved and admired has been eaten by corporate goblins.

Of course they’ll be quick to point out that they’ve given us the “Download Manager”.  But I’m not yet convinced that it is stable enough or complete enough for me to work with yet.  Although I do keep watching the issues about it brought up in this forum.

That’s a pretty grim/pessimistic view of things, albeit not necessarily inaccurate I’ll grant you.  The DIM seems to be stable enough, and is not a particularly bad idea, but it just not fulfill some very basic needs for DAZ’s consumers, and some functions are not working properly.

I hope you’re wrong about the “corporate goblins” aspect, but I’ve seen it happen to many a creative company unfortunately.  Needless to say, but I have been very disappointed with the response since the inception of the “improved” web site.

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Zawarkal - 21 March 2013 12:17 PM

The best way that I have found is to search my computer for the main keyword of the product. If I find the keyword then I search further to verify that I do have the download. If I cannot find the keyword then I assume that I have not downloaded the item and I get it again, even if I already have it.

Yep, that’s what I’ve basically done in the past ... when I knew the approximate date range of undownloaded items.  OR, before I could sort orders by date, and then spot whole orders that went un-downloaded and simply reset the entire order.  I could also easily use the links from within the order to open the product pages, and then easily right-click and download the various images for the product.  (Never understood how some people deal with their massive libraries without a visual index.)  Ahhhh, but that was when the website was actually user-friendly.  *sigh*

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namffuak - 21 March 2013 01:07 PM

And I’ll throw in a plug for DIM, even if you don’t want to use it for anything else.

Download it, install it, and connect to DAZ with it.

When it finishes populating the available to download tab, click on the ‘products’ checkbox; this will select everything.

Right-click; at the bottom of the resulting menu is ‘export to csv’. Click on that, and select the directory you want it saved in and the fields you want to export.

You now have a complete list minus plugins, Bryce and Carrara content, and executables, of everything you’ve purchased. And yes, the download date is bogus but the order number and date are correct.

As near as I can tell from my order history - I think DAZ has finished the conversion to the new format downloads and unwrapped all the bundles.

Thanks Namffuak, but I’m trying to understand (and it could be because I haven’t slept in the last 30 hours) how that would be helpful.  What am I missing?

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Tim

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Posted: 21 March 2013 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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BTW, where is the DIM being discussed?  I have done searches for things like “wrong download date” and other DIM related items, and come up with nothing.  Is it only in Plat. Club forum or something?

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Kyoto Kid - 22 July 2012 11:01 PM

...this is just one of my complaints with the new site as your itemised order history no longer sorts by date but by name and can only display a maximum of 50 items per page.  On the old site everything was listed on a single page and the default sort was by most recent purchase so if you knew roughly when you placed the order it was relatively easy to find it.  If not, you could always use your browser’s “search current page” function using a keyword from the product name.


This new site software has taken several steps backwards with respect to user friendliness.

Hear-hear!  I have stated this many times and have made numerous requests for DAZ to fix this.  I also had hoped the new DIM (Daz Install Manager) might address this very real need.  However, so far, it too is a disappointment.  Not only is there not an option to view all “un-downloaded / non-downloaded” products, but the information it displays about when a product was downloaded is nonesense ... the dates are incorrect, and seem arbitrary.

I too have dozens, if not hundreds of files I have never downloaded, and now with the site change it is beyond a PITA.  Daz keeps promising to fix the site in this regard, but it has been many months now and still nothing.  My fear is they put all their chips on the DIM, but it is not a valid solution either, sadly.

I don’t understand why it is so hard to introduce sort by date functionality, or at the very least allow for (200, or even unlimited liked before) items per page.  ???

 

I’m of the opinion that DAZ has no intention of mucking with that level of programming.  They complained of being bitten by “spaghetti code” in their old highly customized site so why would they repeat that “mistake” and hire someone competent enough and give them a mandate to essentially redesign an off-the-shelf product?  And taking into consideration that we’ve seen other indications that the bottom line now rules the hearts and minds of management at DAZ I’m not going to hold my breath.

The old DAZ that we loved and admired has been eaten by corporate goblins.

Of course they’ll be quick to point out that they’ve given us the “Download Manager”.  But I’m not yet convinced that it is stable enough or complete enough for me to work with yet.  Although I do keep watching the issues about it brought up in this forum.

...as to the DIM, it does not work on content archives. You have to use it to DL the files first in order to install them. Crikey you know how big of a cawfeee bill that would be for me at the hostspot? They may as well let me bring in a cot & bedroll.  This is just one big oversight in it’s design.  I’m also told it will not work with older installers (like the pre Bitrock ones). Right now I’ve been having to do it one file at a time and over the last several days I maybe maybe have 1/5th of my entire Daz content library installed.

And I have yet to install Carrara, Bryce, and PoserPro 2012 and all their content as well as a plethora of Reality shader updates.

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Posted: 21 March 2013 03:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Kyoto Kid - 21 March 2013 02:20 PM

...as to the DIM, it does not work on content archives. You have to use it to DL the files first in order to install them.

Not sure I am following you there, Kid.  What do you mean by “content archives”?  Or are you just saying, you thought it would (or should) just install them directly over the net ... installing from the cloud? 

... I’m also told it will not work with older installers (like the pre Bitrock ones)...

Actually, what it does is put them in a zip, and the zip just contains the Poser folders and files, and then the DIM installer, just unzips them to the runtime directory you have defined.  OR, you can always just open the zips and drag/drop them yourself.  I was just told today that they are no longer using the EXE’s for new products.  So, the only way to get EXE’s is with via the website.  Not sure how much longer that will be an option either.

For me “March Madness” has a whole different meaning.

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...#1.  I have all my content that I purchased and downloaded over the last five years backed up in archive folders. Transferred a couple of the archives (not compressed) to the new system then fired up the DIM to install. Much to my disappointment, there is no way use it to access content in a folder that has previously been downloaded. You have to use the DIM to DL content first so it has the files in it’s database or whatever.  That would take several days even at the speeds I get at the local hotspot.  It is totally impossible from home because of the frequent timeouts and resets I am hit with (not to mention occasional disconnects).

This could be such a useful tool if it allowed you to install content from existing folders on your system rather than having to re-download it all first. Seems they missed the target on this one.

...then it is a “beta” so I guess I should not have expected as much.

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