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Posted: 20 June 2014 02:16 AM   [ Ignore ]
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If you’re like me, you’re forever trying to identify content used in promotional artwork. I know i’m not the only one who wishes all sellers would include one of those helpful lists of “Additional Products used in Promo Image”. So, rather than spam the forums every time an item alludes me, I decided it might be a good idea to start a single topic where we can all help each other solve these little mysteries.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 02:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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First case: The blurred building used in the background of the Olympian Heroine for Genesis 2 Females promo image? - http://www.daz3d.com/olympian-heroine-for-genesis-2-female-s

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Posted: 20 June 2014 02:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It says right under the promos what’s used in it.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 02:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Ha! Off to a brilliant start… Boy, do I feel stupid. That was mistake, the Olympian Heroine was intend as an example of how it should be done. What I meant to ask about was the background used in the Simply Olympia Poses promo art -  http://www.daz3d.com/simply-olympia-poses

Thanks, Vaskania.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 02:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I second your plead. DAZ used to require that all the items from promos should be listed, but at some point, PAs just stopped. I wish they hadn’t.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 03:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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atticusbones - 20 June 2014 02:30 AM

Ha! Off to a brilliant start… Boy, do I feel stupid. That was mistake, the Olympian Heroine was intend as an example of how it should be done. What I meant to ask about was the background used in the Simply Olympia Poses promo art -  http://www.daz3d.com/simply-olympia-poses

Thanks, Vaskania.

That’s the Palladio at Rendo without the giant center piece.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/palladio—-roman-props-scene/97701/

cecilia.robinson - 20 June 2014 02:50 AM

I second your plead. DAZ used to require that all the items from promos should be listed, but at some point, PAs just stopped. I wish they hadn’t.

Quite a few of them have began doing it again on their new releases.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 03:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Never would of found that. Many thanks, Detective. Everyone else feel free to jump in.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 04:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I really think all the promos should have DAZ3D store content only, given their new rules on linking to other stores…bit of a double standard if you ask me.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 05:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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What you are asking is not always as easy as it may initially look from looking at a finished promo.

I cannot speak for all pa’s, but I know I make several incarnations of what becomes my final promo shot, and each of them will have different looks and different props, which I may switch in and out depending on what I think of the final render.
Then when I have a number of different shots, I pick and choose from among them which ones I think will be best for the promos.
Then even when I am done and made my choices, DAZ’s art department may ask for changes as well, which may involve an entirely different look.
So by the end there will have been so many variations with so many different sets, props, clothing and characters used in the shot that it becomes pretty well impossible to remember where each piece comes from.

This coupled with the fact that I just plain suck at remembering names, makes it hard to put such a list together. I am a visual person, so I tend to simply scour my library and think “oh this looks good” or “That looks good” and plop them in without giving thought to what set they are from.


So yeah….for some of us it is not all that easy to put a list together like that.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 07:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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It’s very difficult to identify items used in promos, as many artists modify them to suit their needs, or mix several items together to create something new.  Unless there is some sort of unique, easily identified element such as a specific texture or model, it can take days to find a match.  Longer if the item comes from a different store.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thanks for taking the time to chime in. I appreciate everything that’s been said so far and fully understand that content often gets modified beyond recognition. By no means am I demanding that every element used is credited; my hope was merely that this topic may act as a platform for those of us who wish to “reverse engineer” artwork in an attempt to better understand how something was made, or provide advice on how a similar solution could be achieved. The mystery’s half the fun.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Sounds like a great idea, especially if the named products and/or links are right, not like the ones in this item: http://www.daz3d.com/geishas-for-aiko-5
I can find the •Urban Future 3 for instance but where on the promos is the •Pure Hair: Crazy for Genesis shown?
Or the •Anime School Girl Uniform?
I know which outfit is used ( Princess Asia by Esha )
but I also would like to know which hair is used.

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Posted: 20 June 2014 08:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Speaking of Pure Hair: Crazy, I could have sworn it was a DAZ 3D/Valea product, but now the description says: Shop more by: DAZ 3D Bobbie25, Sarsa, Discobob, Lobo75, Lourdes, Morris

Great thread idea. smile

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Posted: 20 June 2014 08:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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JeanneM - 20 June 2014 08:40 AM

Sounds like a great idea, especially if the named products and/or links are right, not like the ones in this item: http://www.daz3d.com/geishas-for-aiko-5
I can find the •Urban Future 3 for instance but where on the promos is the •Pure Hair: Crazy for Genesis shown?
Or the •Anime School Girl Uniform?
I know which outfit is used ( Princess Asia by Esha )
but I also would like to know which hair is used.

Love, Jeanne smile

I think the hair is this one
http://www.daz3d.com/pure-hair-sweet

The 4th 5th and 6th image use the Anime school uniform

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Posted: 20 June 2014 09:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Not to derail things, but it would be helpful if there was an option in Daz Studio (and other applications) to list all assets used in a scene—-then no one would have to remember what pose, texture, clothes, props they used.  I tend to forget what I use and the scene list helps me somewhat, but it’s hard to determine poses and textures…...

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Posted: 20 June 2014 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Hmmm a full list that detailed everything would be huge depending on the scene… perhaps if it just listed all known and existing products used. (As items rather than a strenuous list of every used texture and morph etc)

Many occasions PA’s have used custom dialed characters for instance and the list of morphs can very easily be a book in itself. Others often create original props purely for the promos to display what it is they’re selling and they don’t always release such models even as freebies.

Though I will say such a feature would certainly give the artist an idea of what items are in there, even if hard to see in the frame, long after the render was completed.


This is a neat thread btw smile

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