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Posted: 06 August 2012 08:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Thanks Len,

The color photo was taken at Hart Prairie on the West flank of the San Francisco Peaks at an elevation of about 2,800 m.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Peaks)

The meadow is inclined so that’s why the background is tilted. Normally I use the electronic level on the LCD of my G12 as a reference, but I’m not sure if I did in this case as the little guy was running around most of the time. I was running with him and had the LCD flipped out and up while I held the camera at knee level. Trying to keep an eye on him, the background, and the LCD screen all at the same time was difficult. 

You may notice that the foreground on the left side is darker than the right. That’s because I forgot to remove the Lensmate filter adapter when I used the on camera flash. It partially blocks the flash when the lens is zoomed wide. The adapter allows me to mount 52mm filters to the G12 lens. I have a fairly good collection of filters in that size, including a Cokin mount, since that’s the same size my old Nikkor lenses use.

I’ll be without a camera for at least the next 10 days as I sent my camera off to get repaired under warranty today. There’s no telling if I’ll get the same camera back or if it will be a new camera or refurbished one. Can only hope for the best.

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Posted: 07 August 2012 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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San Francisco Peaks looks very picturesque!


As for the camera, they have no right to take something you purchased brand new, and while under warranty, replace it with a frenkenstein of refurbished components salvaged from other returns.  Proview tried pulling that bullshit on me around 6-8 years ago, and got the biggest earful I’m guessing ever to grace their customer services department.

Before I discovered the beauty of Amazon, I used to buy a lot of my stuff from PC World.  I bought a brand new Proview branded monitor, and within three months, it started squealing so Proview arranged to pick it up for repair.  Less than a week later I got a brand new box delivered to my door.  I thought wow, they sent me a new monitor instead of repairing it!

Then of course I opened the box and discovered that it was some frankenstein effort made up of other peoples returns.  It was a CRT and the front panel was a different colour to the back panel because the front was stained with nicotene.  I rang “Proview” and asked them what the hell they think they’re playing at, and they told me “It’s what they do now, it’s better than waiting for a repair”.

I pointed out to the dumb ass that it might be what “they” do now, but isn’t what they do with my equipment, stuff I’d paid for brand new.  Talking to the dick on the end of the line was pointless, so I slapped it back in the box and returned it to PC World where I bought it.  I told them what had happened, and that they either need to get my monitor back, or get their hand in the till for a refund.  It got quite heated actually, and in the end they did indeed hand over a refund because I was ready for every piece of bullshit they tried feeding me.

If you’re not bothered about paying for a new camera and ending up with bits’n'pieces of other peoples returns, then it shouldn’t be a problem.  But if you are bothered, I’d make it clear to Canon you either want a repair of your own camera or you want a brand new one, because the fact is, they have to oblige if it’s under warranty.  You did not sign a contract agreeing to them sending you other peoples cast-offs when you bought it, which is effectively what those frankenstein efforts are.

This is just bullshit they pull on customers for convenience because they get away with it most times.  Its like taking your car into a garage and them giving you someone else’s of the same model just because it’s quicker than waiting for the repair.  Bloody well ought to be illegal (and for all I know, probably is).  I don’t see how swapping peoples stuff without them knowing is legal, and that was the basis of how I got a refund from those twats at PC World.

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Posted: 08 August 2012 03:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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There’s lots of picturesque places around here.  Unfortunately, I rarely have time to enjoy them.


It’s just plain wrong to return anything under warranty and have it be replaced or repaired with used parts. 

Part of the return procedure is to acknowledge the terms of Canon’s warranty. The relevant paragraph states:

“Product returned to a Canon USA repair facility and proven to be defective upon inspection will, in Canon’s sole discretion and at no charge, be (a) repaired utilizing new, remanufactured, repaired and/or recycled parts; (b) exchanged for a new Product or; (c) exchanged for a refurbished Product, as determined by the Canon USA repair facility.”

That’s why I was leery about sending it in. Won’t know until whatever ‘tis is returned by Canon. I can only hope for the best.  I take good care of my equipment. My G12 didn’t have a scratch on it and is cleaned regularly. I use an LCD screen protector and have a UV filter on the lens so it still looks brand new even though I’ve had it 7 months.

They may just replace the sensor. I can only wait and see at this point.

 

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Posted: 08 August 2012 04:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Makes no difference, because like I said, when you bought “new” with a 12 month warranty there was no contract signed by you saying that you’ll accept “second hand” parts in exchange for parts of your “new” camera.  When you bought that camera you chose to pay the price for a new camera and you have the right to keep that priviledge throughout the 12 months of the warranty.

It’s by no means unique to Canon either, they’re pretty much all at it.  Anyway, seeing as the G12 has been replaced by the G1X, you might get lucky and get a new one due to them getting rid of old stock.  Probably more efficient to give you some new old stock than mess around replacing a sensor.


Anyway, I notice you mentioned 52mm so I want to show you this neat piece of kit, I’ve been wanting to show it for a while actually.

I was looking into making one of those liquid prisms people make for their home projectors, only I was gonna make it smaller and fix it to the camera to get an anamorphic image.  While I was reading up on it I came across this really neat attachment that gives anamorphic bokeh by simply screwing a filter onto the front of the lens, so, no clumsy adapters to make or expensive anamorphic lenses and adapters to buy.

I thought it was a joke when I first saw it and read that it was done using a simple screw-on filter.  The vertical bokeh you get from it actually looks more anamorphic than sticking an anamorphic lens on the front of the camera - it’s awesome.

The Canon 50mm 1.8 has a 52mm thread, so that’s perfect, because the smallest thread size it comes in is 52mm, same used on the G12 adapter as well, so you could use it even on your pocket camera.  So imagine this, for around $120 you get anamorphic bokeh in your pocket.  Not only is that amazing in itself, but so is the price for the look you get from it.

They did this test to see if people could tell the difference between an anamorphic lens and the filter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftMmEzbKwRA

You’d think the really stretched bokeh was from the anamorphic lens, but nope, this one was all done on the filter:
http://vimeo.com/18647636

To say I’m getting one would be an understatement, too bloody right I am, just as soon as I have my 1.8 (hopefully within a month) and have saved the cash again.  I think the price of $120 is very fair for what you get out of it, and for the convenience of the size compared to those massive anamorphic rigs.  This really does mean you can get anamorphic bokeh even from a pocket camera if you wanted.

Fantastic:
http://vid-atlantic.com/cinemorphic.html

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Posted: 10 August 2012 08:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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I’ll be happy to get my camera back with the problems fixed.  If I get really lucky maybe they’ll send me a 650D/T4i or a 5D Mk III smile

I had no idea what “anamorphic” meant so I looked it up. Nice effect for shooting video with a DSLR.  The prices for anamorphic lenses like the Iscoramas are crazy!  A filter that mimics the effect for $120 makes a lot more sense.  Being able to use rack focus is a big plus too. Looking forward to seeing the results you get with it.

Cheers

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Posted: 10 August 2012 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Hokulea - 10 August 2012 08:46 AM

I’ll be happy to get my camera back with the problems fixed.  If I get really lucky maybe they’ll send me a 650D/T4i or a 5D Mk III :)

Yeah, they might even send you a 1D-X if you’re nice to them, but good luck with it anyway, I hope you get what you’d prefer from it.

 

Hokulea - 10 August 2012 08:46 AM

I had no idea what “anamorphic” meant so I looked it up. Nice effect for shooting video with a DSLR.  The prices for anamorphic lenses like the Iscoramas are crazy!  A filter that mimics the effect for $120 makes a lot more sense.  Being able to use rack focus is a big plus too. Looking forward to seeing the results you get with it.

Cheers

Yup, nice effect, and the reason I want it is because it’s a missing element from the “Cinema Look” and it’s something that can’t be faked in post-work (I wish it could).  Horizontal Flares can be faked to an extent, but not the Vertical Bokeh.  Actually though, my perverse wandering mind is just as interested in using it for stills as for video.  I think it would be cool to have 18-Megapixel images shot through a prime with vertical bokeh!

Means I’d have three types of bokeh for stills: Standard Prime, Vertical, or if I twist it 90 degrees, Horizontal.

It’s not all good though, because while it wont really effect stills resolution, it wont help with video resolution like a real anamorphic lens does because it doesn’t actually squeeze the image meaning you can’t gain extra detail by vertically squashing it to the right aspect ratio.

Here’s what I mean, this is a 550D with twice the resolution my 550D has, just because of the real anamorphic lens:
http://vimeo.com/35615914

So that’s what I’d really like, only here’s how he made it and I can’t afford to take risks like that yet (which is a bummer):
http://vimeo.com/35614161

But yup, can’t wait to get the filter, not totally ideal, but the price and size make up for it (for now at least).

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Posted: 10 August 2012 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Looks like Peasant Dan has been busy:
http://vimeo.com/39972100

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Posted: 15 August 2012 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Len, I’m flattered. You remind me of The Police the way you watch Every Breath I Take. cheese  I’m going to a local community college this fall for its Cinematography A.S., and needed to submit a demo reel. Basically I hashed together my personal projects from the past year. Anyways, I got around to getting that 500T stock transferred in 16:9; some of it is in this reel, but most of it you’ve seen already. The 500T shots are

1. Car argument
2. Treehouse
3. Axe swing
4. Basketball

I was also testing how my new Peleng 8mm fisheye would look on 16mm. I knew crop factor would make the focal length look equivalent to about a 35mm lens on full frame, but the real test was if I could get away with the distortion of it. Not perfect by any means, but as an alternative to the stock lens (17-69mm), which isn’t wide enough for interiors, it works wonders. In addition to the 85B filter for daylight-tungsten conversion, I warmed up those shots a bit in post (maybe a bit too much).

https://vimeo.com/47420208

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Posted: 26 August 2012 07:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Having a bad day?  Bet his was worse.

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Posted: 07 September 2012 08:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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At least the plane isn’t on fire.

Finally got my G12 back from Canon. It’s the same one I sent them, at least as far as the serial number goes.  They remapped the sensor and replaced the top of the camera with all the controls.  They didn’t charge me anything even though the reason the top had to be replaced was due to me spilling Red Bull on it.  So, I’m happy they fixed my camera and it appears to be working fine.

I’ve been playing around with an IR filter and will post some photos soon.  Here’s a panorama of the Vegas skyline from the Palms.  It’s stitched in Ps CS4 from 5 images.  I shot the series handheld in P mode and auto ISO.  Shutter speeds ranged from 1/10 to 1/20 sec and the ISO varied from 1000 to 1600.  Should have used manual settings but at the time I was too inebriated.

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Posted: 25 September 2012 08:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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@Dan
Do not flatter yourself, peasant!

I only spotted it because I noticed your comment on a Canon Anamorphic video, and thought to myself, I wonder what Peasant Dan is doing during the silence?

Great stuff, the footage definitely has a more professional feel to it thanks to the rig you made.  I also like where you decide to start and stop the movement.  Anyway, best of luck with the College course, sounds very cool, especially as you’ll likely get to use fancy rigs and stuff.


@Bjorn
I’m having a bad day, but I doubt his was worse ;-)
BTW, I thought it was a model plane at first glance, due to the size of the ripples!


@Hank
Glad to hear you got your camera back in satisfactory shape, just don’t use it as a beer mat in the future :-P
Nice pano!

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Posted: 26 September 2012 05:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Len, where are all the bestist pics and bestist videos from your bestist camera?

:prodwithastick:  :mrgreen:

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Posted: 27 September 2012 10:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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I’m keeping both my camera and myself far away from Redbull these days.  Haven’t seen any hotpixels after Canon fixed it.  Here are a couple of recent photos.  The mountain view is with an IR filter.  The other is at West Fork in Oak Creek canyon near Sedona.  I’m trying to improve my black and white conversions.  Been using Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop CS4.  Unfortunately the CS4 version doesn’t support my G12 RAW files so I have to convert to dng before I open them in Camera Raw.  Wish there was a way to post video here.

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Posted: 28 September 2012 07:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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@Peter
You’d be my guest if only there was something to show!

The only camera that gets any action is the Sony HX5v (always has been), and that’s my mothers now.  Of course, after years of waiting for the right sort of camera to come out, none came, so I bought a DSLR.  Of course, as soon as I buy a DSLR, there’s a whole bunch of small cameras with fully manual video being released, and to rub it in even further, they even have large sensors!

- RX100 comes out.
- RX1 comes out giving a full-frame sensor in your pocket (although I could never afford that one anyway).
- Even the tiny NEX gets a tiny lens to go with it.

All of them Sony, and any one of them would have been suitable.

Anyway, I notice “PJF the Snowman: Adventures of an Icicle” is a long time coming old chap!
You really need to get filming it in Lumix HD and get it out there for the rest of us to see :prodwithastick:

If it does well, you might get a distribution deal and find it included with this lovely collection - :mrgreen:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adventures-Collection-Plumbers-Private-Driver/dp/B0013OXT8W/


@Hank
Nice looking shots for sure, it’s stunning place!

Sorry to hear about the RAW conversion issues, but that’s what happens when you support companies like Adobe.  Other programs, although ten times cheaper, get their RAW importers updated routinely, for free, and you get to keep your money too ;-)

Anyway, this is the last round of posting I’m doing for a while so you’ll have to excuse any apparent ignorance by me not replying.

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Posted: 29 September 2012 01:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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I don’t have much time to post here either.  Took my dad to the ER at hospital last Friday after he was found semi-conscious behind the wheel of his car.  Friday night at the ER was interesting.  Spent close to 12 hrs there.  Helped the ER Doc do a lumbar puncture (spinal tap) then helped move dad on and off the CT scan apparatus.  Went without sleep for 24 hrs then spent the next 2 days and nights at dad’s bedside as his private nurse.  Got my EMT cert over 30 years ago and haven’t had any experience re the medical field since then.

The day before dad was due to be released from the hospital, the water supply line to the house broke under the driveway.  Since then I’ve been digging trenches with a shovel while perusing the local plumbing codes and permit requirements, as well as pricing materials and tool rentals.  I’m living on bottled water and haven’t had a shower in almost a week.

After dad got out of the hospital, mom went to the ER with pneumonia.  My sister’s VW caught on fire as she was driving it and the starter went out on my car.  At times my PC refuses to boot which means I need to reinstall the OS sometime soon.  I also recently lost my job and the Dept of Ed is hounding me about my student loan.  Oh, I forgot to mention my dad has dementia and no short term memory whatsoever so we go round in circles most of the time.

I’m actually coping quite well under these circumstances without resorting to booze or drugs.  Though I don’t even dare contemplate what else might go wrong at this point.  I have enough to deal with as it is.  After all this madness passes I may take up skydiving.

This image was taken at Oak Creek canyon near Sedona AZ a few weeks ago.  Not quite satisfied with the B&W tonality but I’m learning.  My film of choice for many years was Kodak’s Tri-X which I developed in the bathroom when I couldn’t rent a darkroom.  I exposed Tri-X at ISO’s ranging from 100 to 3200 and could get near grainless 8 x 10 prints most of the time.  Still a ways off from similar results as far as tonality goes with digital.

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