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Posted: 16 July 2012 03:30 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Please feel free to post any ideas or thoughts you would like us to consider for future contests that you feel would make things more fun. Also please feel free to post any contest ideas or things you may like for us to cover as well.


These contests are for you all so any feedback is always much appreciated smile If you would prefer not to post, but still wish to share some ideas, thoughts, or even complaints please feel free to PM me any time or e-mail me as well aanderson @ daz3d.com (take out the space before and after the @) Our goal is to make these contests the best they can possibly be so any feedback is always welcome and appreciated smile
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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This is a bit of wishful thinking, but...

I have found the posing competition fun and a great learning experience. This inspired me to think how it could be extended. What came to mind was, an idea where there were levels; beginning, intermediate and advanced in each of the different areas; posing, lighting, texturing, modeling, and composition. In the beginning level, show basic skills, intermediate show more advanced skills, and at the advanced level, show reinterpretation. The contests would have some minimum number of people to sign up for them (like maybe 5 people) so that people aren't winning by default.

Now, here's one of the fun parts in this idea. for each area one wins a competition, they get a letter under their name, L (lighting,) T (texturing,) P (posing,) M (modeling,) and C (composition.) The letters could be color coded for the level they've passed through. It would be much more interesting then green boxes showing how many times someone posed.

For this to work, there'd have to be a lot more contests, and I doubt the people running them have that kind of time unfortunately, but one can dream wink
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It would be nice if we had some way to share things; poses, textures, followup work, for any given contest in an organized way rather then someone posting a random post. I agree with others that we don't need a place to store stuff at Daz necessarily as we could link to a place like ShareCG, etc.. In fact it would probably be better if there were links out rather then stored locally so DAZ doesn't have to worry about any potential liability or maintenance issues. However, something a little more organized in the way of a followup topic would help. Perhaps one forum area just for contests.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Gedd - 19 July 2012 03:17 PM
This is a bit of wishful thinking, but...

I have found the posing competition fun and a great learning experience. This inspired me to think how it could be extended. What came to mind was, an idea where there were levels; beginning, intermediate and advanced in each of the different areas; posing, lighting, texturing, modeling, and composition. In the beginning level, show basic skills, intermediate show more advanced skills, and at the advanced level, show reinterpretation. The contests would have some minimum number of people to sign up for them (like maybe 5 people) so that people aren't winning by default.

Now, here's one of the fun parts in this idea. for each area one wins a competition, they get a letter under their name, L (lighting,) T (texturing,) P (posing,) M (modeling,) and C (composition.) The letters could be color coded for the level they've passed through. It would be much more interesting then green boxes showing how many times someone posed.

For this to work, there'd have to be a lot more contests, and I doubt the people running them have that kind of time unfortunately, but one can dream wink


I thought we were all supposed to be newcomers to enter the contests, although some do have more skills that others or maybe they're just quicker learners. Getting green boxes lured me out of lurkdom. Entering contests (and winning) is a horse of a different color.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Gedd - 19 July 2012 03:23 PM
It would be nice if we had some way to share things; poses, textures, followup work, for any given contest in an organized way rather then someone posting a random post. I agree with others that we don't need a place to store stuff at Daz necessarily as we could link to a place like ShareCG, etc.. In fact it would probably be better if there were links out rather then stored locally so DAZ doesn't have to worry about any potential liability or maintenance issues. However, something a little more organized in the way of a followup topic would help. Perhaps one forum area just for contests.


Since we don't have galleries at the moment, any one can open a thread to show their work in the Art Studio.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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AtticAnne - 19 July 2012 03:40 PM
..Entering contests (and winning) is a horse of a different color...


Yes, that's why I believe there would have to be a lot more contests for it to work (as in a lot more often) for it to work. If it isn't fun though, it isn't worth it.

The part about the post boxes encouraging you to become involved is a good point. I wouldn't change that feature if it helps encourage people smile

The part about people being new is tricky. Many of us might not have had time to really participate in a meaningful way in 3D graphics till recently for instance, but might have had other involvement that contributes to our art. Photography, 2D art, crafts, gardening, hairdressing or modeling even. Anything artistic can contribute to our artwork in 3D... so, if we bring in skills from other areas but haven't a lot of hours under our belt doing 3D are we new?
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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And as for sharing stuff, as long as you are giving it away, that is what the freepository is for. You load your offering up somewhere, and then post a link to it in the freepository.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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How about something to do with weather effects, such as rain, fog, lightning? I don't even know if Studio can do these.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Yes, it can.. with advanced shaders.. hard one to build a contest around specific effects since many people wouldn't have these. But, a general 'atmospheric' contest where one could use whatever they have at their disposal like creative lighting maybe.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Gedd - 19 July 2012 03:49 PM
AtticAnne - 19 July 2012 03:40 PM
..Entering contests (and winning) is a horse of a different color...


Yes, that's why I believe there would have to be a lot more contests for it to work (as in a lot more often) for it to work. If it isn't fun though, it isn't worth it.

The part about the post boxes encouraging you to become involved is a good point. I wouldn't change that feature if it helps encourage people smile

The part about people being new is tricky. Many of us might not have had time to really participate in a meaningful way in 3D graphics till recently for instance, but might have had other involvement that contributes to our art. Photography, 2D art, crafts, gardening, hairdressing or modeling even. Anything artistic can contribute to our artwork in 3D... so, if we bring in skills from other areas but haven't a lot of hours under our belt doing 3D are we new?


For me, fun is playing with dials for my own amusement. Contests are scary, as is exposing my lack of knowledge.

I don't think bringing in skills from other areas would disqualify anyone from being new. Never using Studio before definitely would qualify one as new. A large part of it depends on the person's own assessment of their skills and comfort level. Some of may consider ourselves new for years; others jump right into the other forums without giving it a second thought.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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The point about sharing was more about an organized 'easy to find' followup to the contests. Something a little easier to find, even 6 months later, then random posts.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Gedd - 19 July 2012 04:02 PM
The point about sharing was more about an organized 'easy to find' followup to the contests. Something a little easier to find, even 6 months later, then random posts.


So put them all in one thread
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Well I definitely agree that the emphasis should be on the participating and in encouraging involvement rather then winning. That's the main reason I believe there would need to be a lot of contests, so that the 'winning' wasn't too competitive. The idea would be to encourage people to participate in each of the different areas to some degree, and to get some recognition that the put forth a good effort at that level. Which brings up another good point. Many of the artists I think might feel advanced in one area but intermediate in another and a beginner in another. Something like this could possibly encourage people to step out of their comfort zone and participate a little in other areas they might not otherwise.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Btw,sometimes we learn best helping others. It engages us in the process in a way that working on our own doesn't. Doing the piece was fun and important but so was interacting as a group.

I fiddled with, and often fought with posing before the contest. Like a lot of people here (from watching their work develop) I gained a lot of confidence and experience, specifically because of the group involvement, that I wouldn't have otherwise.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Gedd do you have any idea how much it takes to get even one contest organised and running. The CV team is not that big.
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Posted: 19 July 2012 04:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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No, I don't have any idea.. but I figured however much it took it was more than what the team setting them up had. So, wishful thinking.

I should have started out a long time ago with saying thank you all for taking the time smile
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