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Posted: 11 April 2014 10:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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If you want a very good Rig for 3delight Rendering, I’d say build a Dual Processor Workstation. (Xeon or Opteron) see https://www.avadirect.com/Tower-Computer-Workstations

But that will cost you a bit more than a consumer desktop.

The more cores, and the more theses cores powerful are, the quicker you’ll get render finished. That’s all.to be known

You could plan to build a 2 x 16 Core Opteron or 2 x 6 core Intel, or whatever, it’s up to you

I’d advise beginning with 2 x 8 Gb Ram and extend further then if needed

Professionnal Graphic cards have better drivers to handle OpenGL You could buy one, but I don’t think that is so much usefull for DS or Hex and a good one is much more expensive and you should be ready to pay the price too. I’d say a descent Consumer Card with >2Gb is enough

The main difference in Pro cards is that there is an additionnal cost for a partnership for Certified Workstation Drivers for some applications and there are only a few case on Big Softwares (mainly Autodesk products or Industry CAD softwares like Catia, ProEngeneer, Autocad, Solidworks…) where you would see a difference in handling the mesh. So Take the gamer’s card you want.

Here is a chart to give you an idea or OpenGL performance http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-ti-review-benchmarks,3663-12.html#

 

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Posted: 12 April 2014 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Takeo.Kensei - 11 April 2014 10:32 AM

...If you want a very good Rig for 3delight Rendering, I’d say build a Dual Processor Workstation. (Xeon or Opteron) see https://www.avadirect.com/Tower-Computer-Workstations

For the most part I agree about the dual cpu system but I have a dual Xeon and while the clock speed is slightly lower than my i7 I see only slightly better performance in some areas and slightly worse in others. In rendering it shines and visibly outperforms the i7 but everything else did not justify the price difference.

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Posted: 12 April 2014 11:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Takeo.Kensei - 11 April 2014 10:32 AM

...If you want a very good Rig for 3delight Rendering, I’d say build a Dual Processor Workstation. (Xeon or Opteron) see https://www.avadirect.com/Tower-Computer-Workstations

For the most part I agree about the dual cpu system but I have a dual Xeon and while the clock speed is slightly lower than my i7 I see only slightly better performance in some areas and slightly worse in others. In rendering it shines and visibly outperforms the i7 but everything else did not justify the price difference.

Precisely same effect with 2.1 ghz Dual 16-Core Opteron’s. SPEED MATTERS!  In my render farm an 3.5ghz consumer AMD FX with 8 cores is by far a faster workstation (User Interface manipulation) and renders at least 50% the frames the 32 core based system can.  The Opterons make great big fat cows for my farm. When renders are not happening, all is not waste, the Opteron based systems do make great test benches with virtualization and high bandwidth webservers.

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Posted: 13 April 2014 01:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Dream Cutter - 12 April 2014 11:13 AM
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Takeo.Kensei - 11 April 2014 10:32 AM

...If you want a very good Rig for 3delight Rendering, I’d say build a Dual Processor Workstation. (Xeon or Opteron) see https://www.avadirect.com/Tower-Computer-Workstations

For the most part I agree about the dual cpu system but I have a dual Xeon and while the clock speed is slightly lower than my i7 I see only slightly better performance in some areas and slightly worse in others. In rendering it shines and visibly outperforms the i7 but everything else did not justify the price difference.

Precisely same effect with 2.1 ghz Dual 16-Core Opteron’s. SPEED MATTERS!  In my render farm an 3.5ghz consumer AMD FX with 8 cores is by far a faster workstation (User Interface manipulation) and renders at least 50% the frames the 32 core based system can.  The Opterons make great big fat cows for my farm. When renders are not happening, all is not waste, the Opteron based systems do make great test benches with virtualization and high bandwidth webservers.

It all depends on what you pick. That always come to a matter of price at the end and a balance between what you can afford to pay and what you do with your Rig unless you have unlimited budget.

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Posted: 13 April 2014 11:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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I too am in the process of building my own system and this is what mine will have:

Case: Coolermaster Elite 342

PSU: Corsair CX750M

RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengeance 1866 DDR3

MB: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3

Processor: AMD FX6300 Hexacore 3.5ghz

Graphics Card: Asus AMD Radeon HD7790 2GB GDDR5

HDD: Western Digitial Green 1TB SATA (Don’t need more as I already have 2TB and 500gb external drives.)

Optical Drive: OEM: LiteOn iHAS124 24X DVD±RW (Dual ±R)/RAM SATA Drive (Internal, Black)

Monitor: Philips V-Line 196V4LAB2 18.5” LED

Keyboard: Logitech K230 Wireless

Mouse: Microsoft Arc Touch

OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Having done my research, all that is among the best kit my budget can stretch to. It should be a pretty decent box when it’s done. So far I’ve got everything bar the drives, monitor, keyboard and OS. So I’m told, if you want to render with Lux, then AMD Radeon cards are the way to go. I certainly intend to give Luxus a real workout when I get things running.

Most of the recommendations I’ve seen on this thread are good ones. It’s always best to check which stuff is most compatible and read user reviews as much as company blurb.

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Posted: 13 April 2014 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Hi All,

My wife and I just put together the first list of components. I am going to research them tomorrow and, if they dont review as total duds, ill go ahead and post them here for further discussion.

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Posted: 13 April 2014 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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I have only one bit of advice that I suggest to most for PC Builds now days. If you are not new to PC’s have Win7 64 bit installed as your Operating system. You have more control as the Admin of the OS than you do Easily with Win8.
Other than that build what you can afford for what your needs are. The options are up to you IMHO.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 06:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Jaderail - 13 April 2014 09:14 PM

I have only one bit of advice that I suggest to most for PC Builds now days. If you are not new to PC’s have Win7 64 bit installed as your Operating system. You have more control as the Admin of the OS than you do Easily with Win8.
Other than that build what you can afford for what your needs are. The options are up to you IMHO.

Win7 Ultimate 64bit is hands down my preferred OS for functionality and stability and I’ve been a career mac specialist for 14 years. I just wished MS would have done an all-in-one OS instead of all those different versions. The only advantage I sort of see with Win8 is it has better XBox integration.

Rogerbee - 13 April 2014 11:35 AM

I too am in the process of building my own system and this is what mine will have:
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Monitor: Philips V-Line 196V4LAB2 18.5” LED

the rest of the system sounds great but you are going to run out of Real Estate very quickly on that LCD. DS is a very palette heavy app. IMHO I would sacrifice something else and try to invest a little more on the screen size; 25” at the very least.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 08:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Rogerbee - 13 April 2014 11:35 AM

I too am in the process of building my own system and this is what mine will have:
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Monitor: Philips V-Line 196V4LAB2 18.5” LED

the rest of the system sounds great but you are going to run out of Real Estate very quickly on that LCD. DS is a very palette heavy app. IMHO I would sacrifice something else and try to invest a little more on the screen size; 25” at the very least.

I’d love to but, I’m very tight for space and 18.5” is as big as I can go. The Philips is actually made by Asus and is a decent enough display for me.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Ok,

Here is the first list of parts that my wife and I have been looking at. My research has not bean going very well and I am not positive that these parts will play nicely with each other. We seem to be configuring a middle of the road machine(!?)

Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition - High Air Flow Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 and All-Black Interior.

Western Digital WD Green WD20EZRX 2TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5” Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive.

CORSAIR RM Series RM1000 1000W ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply.

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard.

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10R.

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K.

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit (Slim Envelope)... whatever slim envelope means(!?).

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - CPU Cooler with 4 Direct Contact Heatpipes.

NVIDIA Tegra K1 Mobile Processor Quad-core, 4-Plus-1 ARM Cortex –A15 MPCore processor with NEON technology Low-power NVIDIA Kepler-based GeForce graphics processor (Not out yet!!!)

Please be brutally honest. I feel like im a bit out of my league with all this.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 05:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Im wondering if the Western Digital WD Green WD20EZRX 2TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5” Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive is the wrong way to go for this system.

After looking through the reviews, this seems to be really for backup/storage and not a primary drive. Going to look for a different HDD.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 06:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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An 1150 processor won’t fit a 2011 motherboard

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Posted: 14 April 2014 06:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Hi James,

Thanks, how do I determine if a particular board will work with a particular processor?

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Posted: 14 April 2014 06:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Never mind, I found it.. LGA 2011 vs. LGA 1150.

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Posted: 14 April 2014 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Im going to rewrite my list, will update soon-ish.

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